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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 12:31:19 GMT
deleted my non civil political discussion post.
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Post by sam on Jun 25, 2016 14:34:34 GMT
While I completely understand you're all bound to have strong opinions on this one way or another- this thread is supposed to be for civil political discussion, not for constantly posting memes and several images to get your view across. I have a bad feeling this is mainly because we added the lol button, rather than the referendum result. If we continue to see memes and images posted without text (screenshots of tweets are fine) then we'll remove the lol button. Please keep it back to text and or screenshots with text that keep the discussion flowing, thanks
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Post by In Wonderland on Jun 25, 2016 15:08:03 GMT
Well more than 100.000 signatures for petitions startet at gov.uk.co (or what the http is) for the cause to be taken to hearing right? Maybe there will be a re-vote? petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
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Post by sam on Jun 25, 2016 16:19:07 GMT
Well more than 100.000 signatures for petitions startet at gov.uk.co (or what the http is) for the cause to be taken to hearing right? Maybe there will be a re-vote? petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215While it has alot of signers I doubt it'll happen, and if it does, a lot of people will be even more angry I think We need to respect the vote.
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Post by eismann on Jun 27, 2016 9:45:27 GMT
I don't get it. It seems like everyone is unhappy with the result, but obviously there must be millions of people who voted for leave. Also I saw a lot of posts like 'the older stole the future of the younger', because mainly old people voted for leave, but at the same time I saw somewhere that only 36% of the young people actually went to vote. It's really difficult to get any true information in the UK, it seems. All media and magazines are so biased.
While it's impressive how many people signed the new petition, I highly doubt there will be a second vote. Maybe Scotland can make a change, because they are very pissed and probably will try everything to stop this decision.
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Post by Avengium on Jun 27, 2016 10:40:45 GMT
More than 3,600,000 of people signed the petition.
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Post by sam on Jun 27, 2016 10:46:10 GMT
Most of the signers weren't even from the UK, their signatures are being removed. Apparently there are only around 500,000 UK signers.
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Post by Becky on Jun 27, 2016 18:42:44 GMT
I am so confused about what's going on atm haha, can't really trust the media so can't tell if we are in a really bad position or if things are fine for now. There seems to be no in between.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 20:52:35 GMT
I don't get it. It seems like everyone is unhappy with the result, but obviously there must be millions of people who voted for leave. Also I saw a lot of posts like 'the older stole the future of the younger', because mainly old people voted for leave, but at the same time I saw somewhere that only 36% of the young people actually went to vote. It's really difficult to get any true information in the UK, it seems. All media and magazines are so biased. Yeah, the media is terrible here. I've only spoken to 1 person who is happy with the result, she has started saying things like "gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt kids" and she recently talked about "Polish people coming here and stealing our jobs" so.... yeah.... not the kind of person I want making big decisions for me. I don't want to stereotype, but as Will Self said - "not all Brexiters are racists, but all racists will be voting for Brexit" There seems to be a lot of reports of people regretting their vote to leave because they either didn't think it would happen (whatever kind of stupid reason that is) or because they didn't understand what it actually means - which is not only their fault, but is the fault of the politicians (which politician has evertold the truth?) and of course the media... And yeah, there seems to be a lot of blame being put on the older generations, but as you say they seem to have had higher vote counts because they actually went out and voted...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 20:56:31 GMT
I am so confused about what's going on atm haha, can't really trust the media so can't tell if we are in a really bad position or if things are fine for now. There seems to be no in between. Right now we're ok, we're still in the EU so nothing much has changed. When Article 50 is triggered we then have 2 years to get everything sorted before we're out. The problem that seems to be arising now is that the other members of the EU are saying they won't even have informal talks with us until we've triggered that so it's not as if we can plan ahead which is worrying and means we could well all be left wondering what will happen/what is happening pretty much until the last minute. Also, the huge flaw with the Brexit campaign is there is no plan. Brexit won, so what happens now? No point in asking them because they don't know, the EU is refusing to talk about the specifics of leaving after the result so there is no way they would've talked about it before hand, the Brexit campaign has been based on basically assumptions - we now see them backtracking on their "promises", the most noticeable is when we were told the £350mil would go to the NHS, people who stood infront of poster and billboards with that on them are now denying it. Politicians are literally leaving left, right and centre so we'll get a new bunch of people trying to both find their feet in new political positions and trying to sort this huge change. Things that will happen: 1. A new PM 2. A General Election 3. We'll leaving the EU 4. .......your guess is a good as mine
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Post by katy on Jun 28, 2016 21:50:34 GMT
That petition is doing my head in - I understand people's disappointment if they voted remain but you can't just completely disregard democracy because it didn't go your way, I really don't understand the thinking behind the petition at all - if the turnout was less than 75% and a lower margin than 60/40 in favour of remain would we have another after that? Or would we just have to accept democracy then because it got the "desired" result? I do think even if we did have another vote (we won't) leave would just win by an even larger margin now people know it can win.
Labour need to get a grip on themselves (feel a bit for Corbyn - taking the blame for a failed campaign when he clearly didn't believe in it from the start, I'd be very surprised if he didn't vote leave in the privacy of his polling booth) and we need a new Tory leader in asap - this whole non-triggering of article 50 has just put everyone in limbo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 23:52:35 GMT
We should adopt the compulsory voting system, that way people can't complain about the turnout and there will never be any doubt over results...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 23:59:56 GMT
That petition is doing my head in - I understand people's disappointment if they voted remain but you can't just completely disregard democracy because it didn't go your way, I really don't understand the thinking behind the petition at all - if the turnout was less than 75% and a lower margin than 60/40 in favour of remain would we have another after that? Or would we just have to accept democracy then because it got the "desired" result? I do think even if we did have another vote (we won't) leave would just win by an even larger margin now people know it can win. There were petitions like that when the Scottish indy ref happened too, people signed them for a few weeks then they get forgotten about... A result's a result and that's the end of it. I actually think if there was a re-vote a lot of leave voters would change their vote to remain, I've not heard a single report of someone who voted to remain wishing they had voted to leave but I've heard plenty saying the opposite. Doesn't matter anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 0:11:26 GMT
One thing I am horribly depressed about it the abhorrent amount of racism and hate crime that seems to be coming out because of the result.
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Post by katy on Jun 29, 2016 6:17:01 GMT
I think some reactions from both sides have been sad. Some leave voters are using it as an excuse to air racist views and some remain voters are using it as an excuse to generalise all leave voters and throw insults out all over the place. I got called "brainless" by a colleague for voting leave despite having a full list of sensible reasons why I did. The reaction to it all has been awful.
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