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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 30, 2017 11:48:10 GMT
Speaking of that, I'm surprised Taylor didn't show up at the VMAs or that they didn't use it as a media opportunity to "make up" with each other. I wonder if that's the reason she didn't show up or there was another reason.
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Post by Avengium on Aug 30, 2017 11:56:02 GMT
I think she is busy with other things.
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Post by Devilfish on Aug 30, 2017 17:51:18 GMT
Speaking of that, I'm surprised Taylor didn't show up at the VMAs or that they didn't use it as a media opportunity to "make up" with each other. I wonder if that's the reason she didn't show up or there was another reason. Or she decides to go completely in the new direction and stay off award shows. Because the old Taylor can't come to the phone because she's dead ^^ There aren't even some paparazzi pictures from NYC or somewhere. btw... I wonder how long it took to shoot the music video with all the other Taylors, costume and set changes. And she could use the cemetery makeup for her own halloween mask
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 18:38:48 GMT
She can't come to the phone right now. Why? She's counting her money
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:08:07 GMT
She can't come to the phone right now. Why? She's counting her money I definitely contributed to the money in her bank..... Woops..... That reputation sweater and hat she's selling!!! store.taylorswift.com/reputation.html
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Post by Becky on Aug 30, 2017 19:12:00 GMT
The videos clever. The dig at Tom Hiddleston is in poor taste given she milked that "relationship" for all it was worth but immaturity over exes is hardly a surprise from Taylor lol. Still hate the song but yeah, nice video I do believe they spit because Tom was pressuring her to attend the Golden Globes when he was nominated. Taylor ALWAYS walks the red carpet either alone or with her brother or a girlfriend. Tom wanted to show her off. BIG mistake. He was " milking" her. Maybe she felt used? What better way to show her displeasure than have it caricatured using skinny gay black dancers with the opposite color shirt? Don't Fuck with Swizz. You will lose. She is very nice unless you cross her the wrong way. Here is an example of how her mind works: She had NEVER shown her belly button in any public performance or function. Not even personal sm post. But while on VaCay with friends on a boat in Hawaii they realized some sleazeball pap had snapped some long range pics of her in a bikini. So Tay instantly released the first shot EVER of her belly button, just so the pap would not make money off of it. Eh, was that the real reason she/he/they gave for breaking up? How is that milking her? Isn't that being proud of your girlfriend and wanting to walk alongside her? Sure, we're not famous or accepting awards, but I love it when my boyfriend invites me to things. Eh, either bullshit or different strokes for different folks. I didn't follow the relationship so have no idea what happened or what they were like. What is the reason for her never showing her belly button? Seems a really random thing. Not the biggest fan of the song but love the video which made me like the song more. I don't understand a lot of the references, I just hope she wasn't "calling out" or making fun of/calling Kim a liar because we don't know, and being robbed and held at gun point has to be terrifying. But hey, who knows whether it happened or not, none of us were there. Love the new image however, liking the new darker theme. It's a lot more to my taste even if I don't have that kind of style myself. Definitely interested to hear the rest of the album. Where/what was the jab at Tom Hiddleston? Also about the tour tickets, I was going to try for them this time round but I ain't buying merch for a higher chance of getting them. It's so unfair for those who can't afford it. Imagine a 13 year old who's a massive fan being so disappointed they couldn't get tickets because their parents couldn't afford to pay for a load of merch on top of the extortionate ticket prices? But hey. Imagine paying a tonne of money for merch and still not getting tickets lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:56:53 GMT
1) Taylor never wants her man to use her for publicity. 2) She has always had a thing about "committing" to show her BB. Never has in her public life until the Paps ruined it. 3) Kim is a lying wench and I hope the whole damn song is about her. She deserves it. However, the tub scene wasn't about her. Do some research. 4) The gay black dancers were wearing "I love TS" shirts. Just like Tom. 5) No, that's not true. She is trying to keep the tickets out of the hands of scalpers and re-sellers. Just like other acts. She didn't start it. Buying her music and merch only gets you moved up in line for BETTER tickets. What's wrong with that? PS: I predict she'll yank down 300M in '18.
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Post by Becky on Aug 30, 2017 20:11:00 GMT
1) Taylor never wants her man to use her for publicity. 2) She has always had a thing about "committing" to show her BB. Never has in her public life until the Paps ruined it. 3) Kim is a lying wench and I hope the whole song is about her. She deserves it. However, the tub scene wasn't about her. Do some research. 4) The gay black dancers were wearing "I love TS" shirts. Just like Tom. 5) No, that's not true. She is trying to keep the tickets out of the hands of scalpers and re-sellers. Just like other acts. She didn't start it. Buying her music and merch only gets you moved up in line for BETTER tickets. What's wrong with that? 1) I don't see it like that, but as I said I don't follow her personal life and know nothing about him. I was only asking a question 3) I don't like her but I also wouldn't like to say it was staged because I don't know. If it did happen, then I can't imagine how traumatic it was. What was the scene about? If you know, why not just tell me lol instead of telling me to do some research. I read some comments on her Facebook of people thinking it was about that and hoping it wasn't. As I said, I didn't catch a lot of the references because I'm only a casual listener. 4) Ah right, I never knew Tom even did. 5) I know she's trying to do that, just like Adele, Muse and many others. They used a system where you can buy a maximum of 2 or 4 tickets and the person who bought the tickets must be there in person with the card they payed on (or you ring Ticketmaster or whoever to tell them who the booking is for). I also THINK Muse might have done a deal with Ticketmaster and/or the resellers because I didn't see any tickets for their recent charity show on any of them. Ticket reselling should only be legal at face value + shipping costs. So it's only for better tickets? Then it doesn't help GA/restricted view tickets and touts can still easily get them? Either way I think this system is unfair because if you have to buy more to get a better chance of getting tickets, then I think it's unfair on those who would normally be able to afford but now can't. I think there are better ways. Her/big artists/bands' ticket prices are already really high - her and her management can afford to make less money, the ordinary person most likely can't afford to pay more (that was Muse's reasoning for not making big profits on one of their tours).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 21:23:15 GMT
Do you live in the USA? It's all about capitalism over here. It's not "fair," like socialism, but it works for us.
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Post by Becky on Aug 30, 2017 21:33:38 GMT
Do you live in the USA? It's all about capitalism over here. It's not "fair," like socialism, but it works for us. No, and I get that. I still think it's unfair though and presumably she'll do the same thing when selling over here. In the UK we have a Conservative government Just stating my opinion, different strokes for different folks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 21:47:09 GMT
Taylor said it herself. Sorta like this: "Art is rare, and it's expensive too." Haha. I get where you're coming from. Just joshing around.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 31, 2017 0:32:35 GMT
I'm still not convinced that is how it really works. That just wouldn't make sense, but everyone seems to think buying more merch = you get the tickets over someone who doesn't. There's no way it could be that stupid. I think it just pushes you forward to get better seats or get a better chance of getting a ticket. If you don't buy merch, you could still have a chance to get a ticket, maybe you just won't get as good seats or they will sell out quicker. Even bots and scalpers aside, you had that same risk before when buying her tickets that you were not guaranteed a seat because they always sold out in seconds. Think of it this way. It may seem unfair that just because someone bought her merch they get more priority for a ticket over someone who didn't, i.e. it's unfair because not everyone can afford it. However, why should you all be on the same playing field despite spending different amount of money? If someone spent that extra money, don't they deserve a better seat or they earn the right to higher priority? I'm studying microeconomics currently, can you tell? lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 0:46:40 GMT
That's exactly right Bogo, and my point too.
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Post by Becky on Aug 31, 2017 9:03:50 GMT
I'm not saying everyone should pay the same amount haha, I just think it's unfair when tickets are already what, $90? I just think there are better systems to reduce the likelihood of touts getting the tickets. What SHOULD happen is governments getting involved to make it illegal to re-sell tickets so much over face value. Muse tickets were so bad here that it was cheaper for fans to go to Europe for a weekend than see them in the UK. I just find it all a bit ridiculous. It's definitely good that many bands and artists are trying to combat it, but I just don't like the idea of buying more merch esp. considering I don't want any - just want to see her live. I get the idea, it just certainly ain't the best. If it's just for the best seats and VIP then I guess makes sense because they're already gonna be extortionate but then it will be even harder to get GA tickets because all touts presumably will go for them. I'd prefer even a loyalty based system where people who have bought tickets before have a higher chance of getting them/an earlier pre-sale but I suppose touts qualify for that too lol.
The fact Ticketmaster get a cut of the sales from GetMeIn shows just how much they don't care about genuine fans haha. Infuriates me.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 31, 2017 12:24:14 GMT
Yes that is true, on the other hand, if you're going to see Taylor, you already know going in it's going to be expensive. If you can afford $90-$100 or whatever for a ticket, what's another $40-50 for a merch item? Like when I went to see Avril I spent about $80 on merch at the show which is an exorbitant amount of money but it's like hey I'm already here, I want it, just gonna get it. If people want it bad enough, they'll pay the ridiculous prices. Also they may be figuring her fans want the merch regardless, if they were already planning to purchase it, now it doesn't end up as a totally worthless purchase, their purchase is actually invested into something else they plan to purchase in the future.
Even if the government made it illegal to resell tickets or scalp (I'm pretty sure that already is illegal?) that wouldn't necessarily stop anyone from doing it. As long as they know they won't get caught. It's mostly bots I think they are trying to stop and government has no real way of controlling that unless they use some kind of verification system maybe like having to enter a code before buying tickets to ensure it's a real person. That's why the system Taylor is using is probably the next best option. At least they're attempting to do something, anything, about the issue even if it's not ideal for everyone.
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