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Post by katy on Mar 21, 2018 7:19:08 GMT
I couldnโt care less if she wrote a song or not tbh as long as itโs good. If she puts out a killer song and she wrote it then thatโs great, if she puts out a killer song and she didnโt write it then itโs still a great song. Sheโs not the best songwriter IMO.
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Post by Sarah93 on Mar 21, 2018 7:30:37 GMT
For me it's okay either way. As someone has already said, she might have not been the one who came up with the concept/idea or for all the lyrics or some melodies of certain songs, and yes we will never know the story behind each song. I think that if she's got a great song and she didn't write but she was just the idea/concept, or she wrote just 20/25% (lyrics, melodies, music) or she wrote it all... it makes no difference to me, as long as the song is great and it sounds like Avril
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Post by Erik on Mar 21, 2018 8:43:19 GMT
I dont know why some of you are fussing about those songs that she didnt write all alone. Ther are a lot of artists doing it, buying song then change some of the lyric. Kelly Clarkson got Breakaway, it was a huge hit and its still a great song, and she didnt write it. As long as the song is good I dont care if she wrote it alone or not tbh, but this is only my point of view, and this point of waiting, I just want a great single from her
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Post by Anna on Mar 21, 2018 9:14:29 GMT
Guys, getting songs written by or with the help of the other people is not bad! You can be a great singer and performer but not the incredible composer. It doesn't mean you are not an artist and it obviously doesn't mean you are not as good as someone who is able to record all instruments for his/her album, mix, produce and release the album all alone.
All I meant was that isn't not true that Avril used to be writing songs all by herself and it's suddenly changed. It doesn't.
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Post by Erik on Mar 21, 2018 9:30:36 GMT
Instead of this, wr should spam BMG to give us informations XD *Insert devil emoji*
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Post by slapstick on Mar 21, 2018 10:47:06 GMT
Guys, getting songs written by or with the help of the other people is not bad! You can be a great singer and performer but not the incredible composer. It doesn't mean you are not an artist and it obviously doesn't mean you are not as good as someone who is able to record all instruments for his/her album, mix, produce and release the album all alone. All I meant was that isn't not true that Avril used to be writing songs all by herself and it's suddenly changed. It doesn't. Getting help at making songs is no issue, input from other people can help artists who have good concepts, but not so good execution, but if she isn't able to write down at least 50% of work on 13-20 songs after 16 years of a career where she got help from all sorts of very talented people, then that's a rather big issue that wont do good for her reputation or popularity among some fans.
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Post by Erik on Mar 21, 2018 11:06:24 GMT
Guys, getting songs written by or with the help of the other people is not bad! You can be a great singer and performer but not the incredible composer. It doesn't mean you are not an artist and it obviously doesn't mean you are not as good as someone who is able to record all instruments for his/her album, mix, produce and release the album all alone. All I meant was that isn't not true that Avril used to be writing songs all by herself and it's suddenly changed. It doesn't. Getting help at making songs is no issue, input from other people can help artists who have good concepts, but not so good execution, but if she isn't able to write down at least 50% of work on 13-20 songs after 16 years of a career where she got help from all sorts of very talented people, then that's a rather big issue that wont do good for her reputation or popularity among some fans.Sorry but I bet half of her fans dont even know which songs are written by her. I stick with my opinion, if the song is good, I dont see the problem.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 21, 2018 11:30:09 GMT
I remember Butch saying he started the concepts behind My Happy Ending (apparently Avril wrote the chorus) and When Youโre Gone, 2 of her biggest hits. She probably never contributed as much to some of her songs as she tried to make it seem like. No one knows who really started the concepts of each song and no one can say how the hit songs were written, since none of us was in the writing session. The only songs we can know for sure how they were written and how Avril writes are the ones she wrote herself.
Since Avril has always co-written her songs I would find it strange if she suddenly didnโt. I can, however, believe she may have taken other songs and reworked them. As long as she can relate to it and make it work for her, thatโs really what matters. But I think she connects more to a song when sheโs had a hand in writing it. She didnโt write Breakaway, and even though it was based on her story and she should have been able to connect with it, she obviously wasnโt feeling it and gave it away. Hell, thereโs even been songs she did write that she gave away. Connection is the key and sometimes artists may connect with songs they didnโt even write but sound like they could have.
I agree with Katy. Avril isnโt the best writer so I think any help she can get is good. She just needs someone to help her execute her ideas better, like maybe changing some words around because she always uses the same predictable rhyme schemes, and using some different chords (all her self writtens on GL use the same 3 or 4 chords). For this album in particular, she should have a hand in writing everything since sheโs telling her story and no one can do that better than her. But Iโm glad she had songs that she worked on herself and then later brought to writers like Lauren or asked Chad for advice to help her refine them. That IMO is the best of both worlds where she can still be involved with writing but she can also have help to make them better.
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Post by In Wonderland on Mar 21, 2018 11:33:18 GMT
Guys, getting songs written by or with the help of the other people is not bad! You can be a great singer and performer but not the incredible composer. It doesn't mean you are not an artist and it obviously doesn't mean you are not as good as someone who is able to record all instruments for his/her album, mix, produce and release the album all alone. All I meant was that isn't not true that Avril used to be writing songs all by herself and it's suddenly changed. It doesn't. Getting help at making songs is no issue, input from other people can help artists who have good concepts, but not so good execution, but if she isn't able to write down at least 50% of work on 13-20 songs after 16 years of a career where she got help from all sorts of very talented people, then that's a rather big issue that wont do good for her reputation or popularity among some fans. She has more than proven herself both with composing, writing and producing. If she hears a song written by someone else and say change "stupid clothes" to "preppy clothes" she has put her mark on the song. Imo if a artist writes on her own, write with a team or buy a song, they are all good. I buy the finished product even if its not self composed as long as i like the song. It doesn't make Avril less of a musician, song writer or artist. I actually think it makes her look better, because she can see and hear beyond her own nose. You never know where the creativity hits, and it doesnt always start with yourself
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 15:23:32 GMT
I know some artists do that, where they hire producers and songwriters so they can help them execute the songs much better. For example, an artist I follow named Emma Blackery hired a producer for her record. The reason she did so because she had difficulties producing and mixing the songs on her own. But after hiring the producer, it became a lot easier for her and was able to get it done at a better pace.
It doesn't matter how many producers or songwriters it has, if the song is well executed then that's what counts!
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Post by Erik on Mar 21, 2018 16:17:23 GMT
GOD, I'm dying for some infoo Avril where are youuuuuuu with the announcment
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Post by RBR on Mar 21, 2018 18:33:25 GMT
Well this time she has really outdone herself
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Post by โnikiโ on Mar 21, 2018 18:44:11 GMT
Well this time she has really outdone herself I was about to say the same I'm almost 100% sure she's on holiday.
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Post by Erik on Mar 21, 2018 18:48:29 GMT
Well this time she has really outdone herself I was about to say the same I'm almost 100% sure she's on holiday. I dont think we will get anything in march tbh
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Post by Sarah93 on Mar 21, 2018 18:57:53 GMT
I was about to say the same I'm almost 100% sure she's on holiday. I dont think we will get anything in march tbh Let's hope for April then, maybe after Easter
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