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Post by tubonjics1 on Jul 28, 2018 10:55:53 GMT
I'm glad that she's ok now and hope she gets help with her addiction. I love her music and hope to see her in concert one day.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 28, 2018 16:06:08 GMT
Unfortunately some people are more predisposed to addiction than others. Your brain starts to tell you hey I can have one drink or one snort of coke it doesn't mean anything. I can control it...and then before you know it your spiralling back towards full blown addiction, lying your way to get drugs, and doing things you wouldn't do in your right mind. Your body becomes so dependent on it you feel you need it to survive. Rehabbing after hardcore drug use is painful and difficult. You can't afford to get complacent when you get clean because that's how people fools themselves into thinking they can handle drinking or drugging a little bit again without becoming full blown addicted. That never works for a recovering addict.
I consider myself very lucky in that I have no interest in drugs or alcohol. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person whose never tried drugs or smoked one cigarette. I just have zero interest, but I know people who are the exact opposite and have been suffering from addiction for years, yo-yoing back and forth between being sober and not being sober. It's a long hard road and it takes a toll on everyone.
I hope this moment will make Demi realise the importance of staying fully clean for a recovering addict. It's going to be a long hard road for her, but she has a lot of love around her if she can only see it. I guess it really depends on her mindset. If she's going through a down period in her bi-polar she might not realise how loved she is and she might be pushing away the ones who truly care about her health. Mental health issues are hell. I know that from personal experience. I hope she gets clean and gets help. Forget touring and selling music right now. Her fans will still be there to support her. In fact her fans will support her more if she takes the time to get better and doesn't just blow this off. We don't need another young person dying because of addiction.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 28, 2018 18:21:14 GMT
I don’t have any interest in drinking or drugs either. I already have enough health problems as it is and that would just make it 10x worse. I have acid reflux so drinking is a no no and I find the taste of alcohol to be gross anyway. So it helps to not drink at all, even a hard lemonade or cider, if it makes me feel sick afterwards. I don’t even drink soda at this point. The less shit, the better.
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Post by Becky on Jul 28, 2018 22:59:59 GMT
I don’t have any interest in drinking or drugs either. I already have enough health problems as it is and that would just make it 10x worse. I have acid reflux so drinking is a no no and I find the taste of alcohol to be gross anyway. So it helps to not drink at all, even a hard lemonade or cider, if it makes me feel sick afterwards. I don’t even drink soda at this point. The less shit, the better. Off topic: are you on meds for the reflux? I've had it for years and just had a really tough year, I was so ill and got ignored and fobbed off by doctors and turns out I have a hiatal hernia from throwing up so much and now have to take 14 tablets a day for life, cut so much out of my diet and I still feel sick and in pain every day. Hopefully the next medicine combo the hospital give me will solve the problems. Just to say don't let doctors fob you off and look after your stomach. People will never not drink or experiment with drugs and it must be so prevalent in celebrities who are in the public eye all the time and have the money to do so. It's so sad seeing people get in with a bad crowd or need it to make every day life bareable. I don't think there's anything wrong with partying hard or being t total or somewhere in between, as long as it's SAFE. Are there any updates on Demi?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 29, 2018 2:16:35 GMT
I don’t have any interest in drinking or drugs either. I already have enough health problems as it is and that would just make it 10x worse. I have acid reflux so drinking is a no no and I find the taste of alcohol to be gross anyway. So it helps to not drink at all, even a hard lemonade or cider, if it makes me feel sick afterwards. I don’t even drink soda at this point. The less shit, the better. Off topic: are you on meds for the reflux? I've had it for years and just had a really tough year, I was so ill and got ignored and fobbed off by doctors and turns out I have a hiatal hernia from throwing up so much and now have to take 14 tablets a day for life, cut so much out of my diet and I still feel sick and in pain every day. Hopefully the next medicine combo the hospital give me will solve the problems. Just to say don't let doctors fob you off and look after your stomach. People will never not drink or experiment with drugs and it must be so prevalent in celebrities who are in the public eye all the time and have the money to do so. It's so sad seeing people get in with a bad crowd or need it to make every day life bareable. I don't think there's anything wrong with partying hard or being t total or somewhere in between, as long as it's SAFE. Are there any updates on Demi? Oh my god that’s awful! My reflux isn’t as bad as what you’re describing and I don’t have a hiatal hernia. I’ve been taking omeprezole for a few years and that’s seemed to help.
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Post by kyris89 on Jul 29, 2018 8:49:39 GMT
Not a fan of her either, but i was shocked when i saw the headlines. I 've never connected Demi with drugs and i found it so sudden. I really hope that it's something temporary, Get well girl x
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Post by slapstick on Jul 29, 2018 15:28:08 GMT
I am also not a fan of hers, but it's a pattern with so many celebrities and it's quite depressing. I think sometimes we forget the "person" behind the stardom if that makes sense and don't realise that it may be too much sometimes. Of course, I could be wrong and she could of OD'd for another reasoning entirely, but I have my suspicions.
I am very relieved for her family that she didn't die. I do agree with Ben's statement - I really do hope that the shock of all of this helps her realise that this is a path to ruin, no matter her problems.
Well, the thing with celebrities, 27 club, etc. is, that it is not really the nature of the business that's 'killing' them, but rather the personalities which 'make it to the top' in the industry, coupled with what they experience as celebs. Entertainment/Music/Film are highly competitive careers, and hence often the most determined people get in. Often this determination comes out of what could be described as psychological anomalies - for example, those with bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder have episodes in which they become fanatically determined and productive. People getting high up on the ladder are also more likely to display sociopathy, narcissism, psychopathy, and so on. Celebrities are often people who ignored the likehood of failure, and luckily it paid out for the few of them. Those who don't 'make it' frequently spiral into debt and bankrupcy, and even bigger psychological imbalances. But not the celebs. They succeeded, so they become satisfied for at least some time and finances allow them to pursue their dreams unhindered, so what goes wrong? Their own mind goes wrong. When fame becomes "mundane" after some time, negative aspects of it become more notable, and consequentially this lack of a sense of new achievements enables the other side of these disorders to step in, with depression in the forefront. Depression, unstable relationships, illusionary perception of people and situations, etc. are all symptoms of disorders common among celebrities. If we jump to the famous meltdowns 'caused by paparazzi', we can see that the most affected stars were those who were also most likely to be more willing to let guard down on the tabloids. Why? Because of their personalities - in one psychological episode they crave for the public eye, their narcissistic and histrionic traits push them to expose themselves, and in the next episode they become disillusioned, and it feels like the world is coming down on top of them, so they try to find refuge in drugs, which finally pushes them either into suicide or a meltdown and consequent institutionalisation. So that's a quick rundown on the whole thing, you can look up on symptoms of these various disorders and you'll find plenty of behaviours easily recognised in many contemporary artists (including Avril's unstable relationships).
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Post by Sarah93 on Jul 31, 2018 13:09:11 GMT
I'm a bit late on this, but I'm really shocked to hear about this. I'm not a fan of her, I know just some of her hit singles, but as TamyXD has mentioned before, I found her latest music quite different than her previous, hence new personality that didn't quite fit in with the demi that was spreading warning to drugs and alcohol addiction and all of that...
I just hope she recovers and is as shocked as us at this that it'll make her realise to avoid walk down that path ever again.
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Post by thyarchery on Jul 31, 2018 14:33:39 GMT
BTW, I read that she was found in her house alone- but that the neighbours said that there had been a party there until minutes before the paramedics arrived. Actually, besides all the health concerns that come along with drug use, I think that's the saddest thing about this-like what kind of friends does this girl hang out with?
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Post by biggerwow on Aug 1, 2018 2:13:45 GMT
BTW, I read that she was found in her house alone- but that the neighbours said that there had been a party there until minutes before the paramedics arrived. Actually, besides all the health concerns that come along with drug use, I think that's the saddest thing about this-like what kind of friends does this girl hang out with? I knew about the party but I didn't know she was found alone. Just that a friend had something in handy just in case this happened that helped with overdoses. I guess that's good of the friend but also did they really not think to block that party from happening or from her drug dealers to get a hold of her? I know you can't make someone get help but if someone close to me was doing drugs I would do what I could to prevent some things from reaching her. The party at least could have been handled somehow.
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Post by In Wonderland on Aug 1, 2018 9:57:51 GMT
BTW, I read that she was found in her house alone- but that the neighbours said that there had been a party there until minutes before the paramedics arrived. Actually, besides all the health concerns that come along with drug use, I think that's the saddest thing about this-like what kind of friends does this girl hang out with? I knew about the party but I didn't know she was found alone. Just that a friend had something in handy just in case this happened that helped with overdoses. I guess that's good of the friend but also did they really not think to block that party from happening or from her drug dealers to get a hold of her? I know you can't make someone get help but if someone close to me was doing drugs I would do what I could to prevent some things from reaching her. The party at least could have been handled somehow. There is reported that the nacran came from the medics not one her of friends.. I mean if anyone goes to a "casual" party with drugs and nacran i would be terrified of that person. If you are super allergic to bell peppers and you eat a whole one because your friends said it would be cool, just to say "i brought an epipen" .... That is kinda messed up imo
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Post by thyarchery on Aug 1, 2018 18:38:23 GMT
I knew about the party but I didn't know she was found alone. Just that a friend had something in handy just in case this happened that helped with overdoses. I guess that's good of the friend but also did they really not think to block that party from happening or from her drug dealers to get a hold of her? I know you can't make someone get help but if someone close to me was doing drugs I would do what I could to prevent some things from reaching her. The party at least could have been handled somehow. There is reported that the nacran came from the medics not one her of friends.. I mean if anyone goes to a "casual" party with drugs and nacran i would be terrified of that person.If you are super allergic to bell peppers and you eat a whole one because your friends said it would be cool, just to say "i brought an epipen" .... That is kinda messed up imo Absolutely agree
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Post by ben545 on Nov 7, 2018 13:54:49 GMT
Demi Lovato is out of rehab. She has been sober for 90 days and posted her first Instagram post since her overdose on Tuesday encouraging people to go out and vote.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Nov 7, 2018 20:43:52 GMT
Demi Lovato is out of rehab. She has been sober for 90 days and posted her first Instagram post since her overdose on Tuesday encouraging people to go out and vote. I was happy to see that on the news. It doesn't matter I'm not a fan. I've lost so many friends and relatives to drugs and alcohol, it's good to see anybody string together 90 days of sobriety. I did vote yesterday. It's one of my favorite things to do. My voting precinct is at the local police station. I just love walking in there without the handcuffs.
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Post by ben545 on Nov 9, 2018 20:07:49 GMT
Alcohol and drugs have caused me a lot of trouble in the past probably in a similar way to Uncle Bob, being arrested for drunk and disorderly, that kind of thing. For me it's a constant battle to stay in control of my drink and drug habits. The problem is that there's a voice inside my head that doesn't give a shit and just wants to get wrecked all the time. Staying sober for work these days is keeping me really healthy and I've cut my drink and drug days down to two a week over the past year or so. I still enjoy the release of getting smashed twice a week but I can't envisage a life of total sobriety. I'm just trying to find a happy medium, to enjoy things in relative moderation. I've never really got into hard drugs which has probably saved my life but I do smoke cannabis on a weekly basis. It's no secret that America has an opioid problem whereby doctors are prescribing opiates as pain killers to people and then they're getting addicted and then overdosing. This is not a new problem for America but it's getting worse. I blame the way America's health service is funded for this. When people are forced to pay for their own health care they expect a competitive service from their doctor which may result in them bending the rules in the medications they prescribe. Demi Lovato was on some kind of opiate when she overdosed. Nope, you can't go wrong with alcohol and a little cannabis now and again in my opinion.
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