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Post by Blackarachnia on Sept 4, 2018 1:59:40 GMT
Staff Note:
This thread started with the anticipation for what the 6th album will score among critics. Turned into a UMS is the fan favourite album .... or is it? Then the debate over TBDT holding the only #1 song came up...
This is up for a friendly debate
And vote in the awkward poll i made just for you
I remember seeing somewhere that each album has a lower score than the previous one (idk where) and maybe this one will break the pattern 👀 I know that at least at metacritic isn’t like that www.metacritic.com/person/avril-lavigne... how does AL5 have the same score as UMS?
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Post by Hellelujah on Sept 4, 2018 2:33:54 GMT
... how does AL5 have the same score as UMS? 'cause UMS isn't that great but in this forum is overrated AF. Half of the album is good like AL5. I think her best albums are LG and TBDT, they have a strong balance and no really annoying songs besides OOTG.
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Post by The Ramonas on Sept 4, 2018 2:39:58 GMT
I remember seeing somewhere that each album has a lower score than the previous one (idk where) and maybe this one will break the pattern 👀 I know that at least at metacritic isn’t like that www.metacritic.com/person/avril-lavigneThanks for sharing this link Wow. I can’t believe GL has a lower score than AL. RIP good taste (although GL has some questionable choices). Anyway. I hope she tops herself with this record in terms of quality.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Sept 4, 2018 4:08:04 GMT
... how does AL5 have the same score as UMS? UMS is overrated by the fans, that's it...
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Post by The Ramonas on Sept 4, 2018 4:19:15 GMT
I mean, UMS has great sound engineering, some great musicians (Butch Walker, Ben Moody, Chantal Krsvudngs), but it aged badly. The lyrics are too teenagerish and kind of lazy. The instrumentals are really good imo (especially the piano ans strings arrangements). But yeah. Overrated.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Sept 4, 2018 4:47:36 GMT
How Does It Feel, WHO Knows, Nobody's Home, Together, Forgotten are anything but childish and lazy. What the heck..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 4:50:06 GMT
Since UMS is being attacked here I have to say remember the most awesome songs: My Happy Ending, No Body’s Home and How Does It Feel are on this record. I’m not saying this is the best album of the world but it is for sure Avril’s best since the songs have great production (vs AL for example). But it is quite old anyways.
Sorry to be off topic but I had to.
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Post by Hellelujah on Sept 4, 2018 5:02:41 GMT
Since UMS is being attacked here I have to say remember the most awesome songs: My Happy Ending, No Body’s Home and How Does It Feel are on this record. I’m not saying this is the best album of the world but it is for sure Avril’s best since the songs have great production (vs AL for example). But it is quite old anyways. Sorry to be off topic but I had to. No one is saying it is her worst. But not the entire album is great. Obvi MHE, NH, HDIF are masterpieces. But for me is the album with the most tracks I skip: Take me away, together, forgotten and freak out. I really need to be in the mood for these songs. UMS could have been bigger with the right singles like choosing Fall to pieces instead of DTM and Slipped away instead of He wasn't, and MHE as the lead. On AL5: RNR, HK, SOS.
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Post by daniel on Sept 4, 2018 6:33:43 GMT
AL has the same score as UMS because although so many people here hate AL, some of the album is actually really well written and really well produced, enough to pull it up to a respectable album
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Post by Blackarachnia on Sept 4, 2018 6:38:16 GMT
Yeaaah, you’re joking if you don’t consider UMS as one of her better releases... especially compared to AL5 which has poor production and shitty lyrics like on Bitchin’ Summer, Hello Kitty, YASNY, Sippin’ on Sunshine, RnR, HTNGU... that’s literally half the album. Especially for the time (which is when it was reviewed), UMS was a brilliant pop album.
GL also unfairly suffered, considering the second half is some of her strongest work.
If TBDT didn’t have Girlfriend, it would have been just as bad as AL5.
Let Go is definitely her most polished album... it has the smoothest production, creative lyrics, universal melodies. It was mature yet light-hearted... definitely deserves top spot for its professionalism. I’d put UMS next as it continues that universal appeal with its mature subject matter and cohesive production, but docted on the symplistic lyrics. Then GL for it’s back half containing very personal lyrics and anti-pop production... Everybody Hurts onward sounds like a Jewel album. After that who cares... TBDT and AL5 were concerned only with pop hooks and had trash lyrics because of it. With the exception of maybe 4 songs on both albums being of any actual artistic quality (Innocence, Give You What You Like, Keep Holding On, Hello Heartache, I Will Be, Falling Fast, Won’t Let You Go, Hush Hush). If those were released on one album then I think it could have been one of her stronger albums in her discography 🤷🏿♀️
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Post by fih on Sept 4, 2018 13:59:18 GMT
I’m a bit late to the comments but I just love how people say that certain album is overrated and that’s it, that’s the final word. Do you guys forget personal taste? I don’t care about what are the other people’s opinion or critics, I don’t listen to UMS for a long time but I still feel it’s my favorite album, cause I connect to it so no it’s not overrated to me! But also to be honest I basically don’t listen to Avril lately! But yeah, Take Me Away for example is one of my favorite songs from her. And for example, I’ve seen many comments about how amazing Stop Standing There is, and I just can’t get it. I think it’s super boring and nothing special, but I’m not going there to say it’s overrated hahah In the end I really appreaciate all of her albums, last time I listened to TBDT I was thinking that the album can be nice, even tho is probably my least favorite.
But all I hope for is that AL6 will be different than anything she did before, and way better
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Sept 4, 2018 14:02:23 GMT
UMS is her worst album, let's just agree on that and move on.
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Post by nosyhobbit on Sept 4, 2018 14:10:03 GMT
UMS is her worst album, let's just agree on that and move on. I don't think so but sure, let's move on.
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Post by fih on Sept 4, 2018 14:21:01 GMT
Not agreeing on that ever when after UMS she released TBDT haha
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Post by Erik on Sept 4, 2018 14:31:15 GMT
Not agreeing on that ever when after UMS she released TBDT haha She earned a LOT of money from TBDT and dont forget the ONLY #1 its also from that album. Just saying.
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