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Post by TamyXD on Jan 6, 2019 2:21:33 GMT
I always wonder if there are people who simply give every song 10/10? And is there any song at all that got not a single 10/10 vote? Is there any song that got not a single 1/10 vote? I'd really like to know, lol.
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Post by TomX on Jan 6, 2019 2:31:36 GMT
IAGWIW is a great song, and definitely one of Avril's all time favorites. I don't get why so many get annoyed she plays it on her live shows since 2005. It's after all her music, her set, and she can play that song if she loves it so much. Plus, it's an awesome headbanger when you listen to it live. I like the song and it’s fun live but I do think it should be retired from her set list at this point. The only songs that should continue getting played that are old are her hits. IAGWIW was never even a single yet it makes the setlist every tour over album tracks that she won’t even play. I think fans are just sick of hearing it tour after tour when it shouldn’t even really be there in the first place (it’s only a b-side from an album she released nearly 15 years ago). Especially over songs from the latest album that have never been performed. It’s time for it to go IMO. Yes, I understand your point. Yet, it must be within her top 3 favorite songs to play live, so she just doesn't really think about what the fans want, she's also looking to have a good time on stage. At this point, it feels like a classic, even though it was only a b-side. It almost feels like her one and only tour anthem. And I also think the lyrics describe her and how she basically gets everything she wants (except for creative freedom in GL and AL lol). I also know that it was frustrating to have a 14-song setlist when she came to Argentina in 2014, didn't play MHE for example, but played IAGWIW. It's not cool if the song is replacing other more important songs or new album tracks. But she could definitely play at least 22 songs live, and have that one as a "bonus track", without having to replace anything, but more like giving us of a few more minutes of concert. (BTW, she's given us some of her most amazing vocal performances while performing it ) Anyway, I understand perfectly why many fans dislike the song being played live when it was just a b-side from a 15 year-old album.
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Post by The Ramonas on Jan 6, 2019 8:31:35 GMT
I like the song and it’s fun live but I do think it should be retired from her set list at this point. The only songs that should continue getting played that are old are her hits. IAGWIW was never even a single yet it makes the setlist every tour over album tracks that she won’t even play. I think fans are just sick of hearing it tour after tour when it shouldn’t even really be there in the first place (it’s only a b-side from an album she released nearly 15 years ago). Especially over songs from the latest album that have never been performed. It’s time for it to go IMO. It almost feels like her one and only tour anthem. And I also think the lyrics describe her and how she basically gets everything she wants ( except for creative freedom in GL and AL lol). omg
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Post by katy on Jan 6, 2019 9:32:45 GMT
I always wonder if there are people who simply give every song 10/10? And is there any song at all that got not a single 10/10 vote? Is there any song that got not a single 1/10 vote? I'd really like to know, lol. I think there must be. The worst ranked songs start at like 6.5/10. I think if everyone was rating them properly it’d surely start lower. On IAGWIW, personally I hate it and I’m ready for it to be binned for good.
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Post by In Wonderland on Jan 6, 2019 9:50:53 GMT
I always wonder if there are people who simply give every song 10/10? And is there any song at all that got not a single 10/10 vote? Is there any song that got not a single 1/10 vote? I'd really like to know, lol. (I can't get to detailed for there are more results to come ) But Hello Kitty has more votes on 10 than You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet. YASNY has more votes at 6. Weras HK is probably the song with the most "even" votes for each option. Yet HK ends dead last. Many songs has been downvoted with 1s BUT on some songs no one has voted 2s. So every single song has at least 1 vote for 1/10. Also the majority of the Bsides etc has the average vote on 7. They dont reach as many 10s plausibly because many havnt heard them. In average the majority voted between 5 and 10. Even though some songs has 143 10/10 it can have over 90 6/10
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Post by Sara on Jan 6, 2019 12:02:05 GMT
Maybe i'm the only one but, the Let Go unreleaseds should make the top 30 minus Think About it and some of them like Let Go, Get Over It being in the top ten because they are some of her best songs ever. Yeah, Let Go and Get Over It are truly amazing. Surely they deserved to be on the first record. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't change a song of LG, but these two tracks would have embellished it even more.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 6, 2019 14:03:09 GMT
Personally I gave a lot of songs 10/10 but my lowest ranking I think didn’t go below 5 or 6. I felt a 1 was too harsh. Even the songs I don’t like as much I don’t think I totally hate them.
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Post by fcpunk on Jan 6, 2019 16:15:26 GMT
I think I gave 1/10 to SOS and GOM - I'm glad to see both in the bottom
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Post by Light02 on Jan 6, 2019 16:29:11 GMT
My policy is this: I only give 10/10 for my all-time favorite songs (which are Losing Grip, Unwanted, Forgotten and What the Hell), 9/10 for my favorite song off of each album, besides the four tracks I mentioned above, 8/10 is for the songs I really like but aren't my favorites, 7/10 is for the okay songs, 6/10 is for really mediocre songs that I find boring or whatever, 5/10 is for songs I actively dislike and 1/10 is for the one song in her discography I actually hate - Bad Girl.
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Post by In Wonderland on Jan 6, 2019 16:32:46 GMT
79. Falling Down 7.58 (-5) 78. I Don’t Have To Try 7.59 (-5) 77. Wings Clipped (ft Grey) 7.59 (-2) 76. Listen (ft One OK Rock) 7.62 (+1) 75. Imagine 7.74 (-4) 74. Take Me Away (B-side) 7.76 (-13) 73. Let Go 7.78 (-1) 72. Bad Girl 7.8 (-8) 71. Contagious 7.86 (-2) 70. Fly 7.86 (-18) It looks like it ain't Fly's time to shine Do anything, do everything, do something.... Take Me Away
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 6, 2019 16:45:01 GMT
I'm in the minority where I have always loved IDHTT. Ok the intro is cringey and the lyrics are bratty, but I thought people would like the aggressive pop/punk instrumental. Her cover of Imagine is just terrible. Her vocal performance sounds like she's bored. Awful cover, honestly. Let Go deserves more. Bad Girl is not really my favorite from her, so glad to see it ranked low. I just don't like the lyrics or subject matter. Fly sucks. It's just honestly one of the worst songs I think she's ever put out. The lyrics are pretty unimaginative and the production is so bland, basic, and boring. Her vocals sound overly autotuned or weirdly edited.
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Post by TamyXD on Jan 6, 2019 16:49:07 GMT
I mentioned it before, "Imagine" is probably Avril's worst vocal performance ever, worse than "O' Holy Night" (I think the latter is a live recording anyway, isn't it? So she didn't have any second or third chance to record it?). I would've put "Imagine" somewhere around #90. I know lots of people don't like IDHTT. I guess it's the weird intro, the bratty lyrics, and the rather unmelodical bridge with those screams? But I really like the song most of the time. This year, I actually enjoyed it so much I gave it 10/10. I absolutely love the aggression and the powerful chorus with those backing vocals "don't have to, don't have [...] to make you, to make you" and then the emphases on the "anything I wanna DO, anything I'm gonna DO". And the pre-chorus with those squeaky vocals, especially on the "thinking" . The bridge is a bit of a "hm wtf" for me, 'cause it's instrumentally too unmelodical for my taste, but Avril's scream is WOW! Like, she could actually make hardcore music with lots of screams, her voice can be so incredibly powerful and aggressive. Overall IDHTT has one of Avril's best vocal performances imo. It's just such a fun song to listen to, definitely one of the best songs off TBDT. "Wings Clipped" is kind of a guilty pleasure or something to me. I really love the lyrics and Avril's voice sounds fantastic. The production is very modern. But then there's this totally messy instrumental chorus that makes my ears hurt. And everything after Avril's part is basically just the same thing again with that guy's vocals, and imo his vocals aren't nearly as strong as Avril's. It's these two things that bother me, 'cause if it wasn't for them, this song might be absolutely amazing. I used to love "Bad Girl", it was actually the song that got me into punk-rock and later theatrical post-hardcore music. But by now "Bad Girl" is just good imo. I still love this echoing soung, Avril's and Manson's vocals, and the creepy Halloween vibe. But the drums... ugh... You wanna make an aggressive rock song, please use decent drums, don't always play the same pattern. Like, where are the cymbals, the hi-hats, any little drum solos? :/
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 6, 2019 16:57:05 GMT
To my knowledge, O Holy Night was not recorded live but in a studio. I think she probably just wasn't really into recording the song, probably because of the religious lyrics, and it really went against her image at that time. She may have been told by her label to record a Christmas song or Chantal wanted to do it.
I feel the same about Wings Clipped. Avril's part is great, anything after that I don't care. The instrumental part is pretty annoying and sounds messy and I don't care about the other guy on the song. Probably why it got an overall low rating even though people like Avril's part.
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Post by katy on Jan 6, 2019 17:56:05 GMT
I like Wings Clipped a lot. Contagious deserves more! Fly is generic rubbish and IDHTT is her worst song ever imo.
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Post by TomX on Jan 6, 2019 18:32:16 GMT
I'm in the minority where I have always loved IDHTT. Ok the intro is cringey and the lyrics are bratty, but I thought people would like the aggressive pop/punk instrumental. Her cover of Imagine is just terrible. Her vocal performance sounds like she's bored. Awful cover, honestly. Let Go deserves more. Bad Girl is not really my favorite from her, so glad to see it ranked low. I just don't like the lyrics or subject matter. Fly sucks. It's just honestly one of the worst songs I think she's ever put out. The lyrics are pretty unimaginative and the production is so bland, basic, and boring. Her vocals sound overly autotuned or weirdly edited. Agreed. I still do like Bad Girl, even though it’s gotten more boring overtime. IDHTT is brilliant. And the bridge is so explosive, I love it. I’d like to see her try the screams in another angsty track in the future. This track actually proves that TBDT is a heavier album than UMS, much more aggressive and guitar-driven. I would love for her to release another album like TBDT with better lyrics, even an EP would be enough.
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