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Post by eragon7 on Jul 7, 2019 0:47:59 GMT
Ok, here's my "hot take" - I don't really see it as disrespectful towards her to listen to unreleased songs, unreleased and unfinished works of art from famous deceased people are regularly revealed and given to galleries without controversy, and I can't see how this would suddenly differ so much regarding a living artist. It's not like some very personal/private stuff is being leaked out into the public, its songs that didn't make the cut. I also don't see the economic argument, those songs are dead in the water, she ain't making profit with them either way, might as well have them brighten some people's day through a "free" leak, I'm sure all artists/production companies already have such things factored in. I think it’s disrespectful because it’s essentially stealing and it’s not theirs to leak. Maybe she doesn’t care, maybe she does. Regardless of what the reason is, she didn’t want anyone to hear those songs. Not necessarily because of anything personal in them. Maybe she just thinks it’s not her best work. Maybe she was just venting her feelings and never intended for anyone to actually hear it. This is all so interesting that you two are talking about. It was strange to me always how does any song leak in the first place, because that means that someone breaks into her computer and steals or to an actual place...I mean how would some unknown person have access even to her anything... And maybe she leaks them on purpose to make things more interesting and mysterious...
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Post by eragon7 on Jul 7, 2019 1:03:53 GMT
Because that's how the music industry works. In most cases, whatever songs an artist records become the property of the label, not the artist. This is the case that is going on right now with she who must not be named. Avril owns the songs in terms of the music and lyrics, but doesn't own the recordings themselves. Any songs she recorded for the HAW sessions belong to BMG. She can't just decide to release them, unless the label also wants to. Either that, or she needs to purchase the masters. Alternatively, she can re-record them under another label or independently. This is crime...that artist doesn't own the recordings and owns the songs and it's her voice recorded...but like many things in material world doesn't surprise me much...
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Post by StrongSweet on Jul 7, 2019 2:22:31 GMT
Why is it such a easy thing that the unreleased song is got to leak? There must be reasons behind it. Won't Let You Go got leaked and SME heaven't decided to ban any related content on Youtube
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Post by slapstick on Jul 7, 2019 9:56:04 GMT
I’m 99.9% sure she’s wearing extensions lol Lol, why did you even leave the 0.1% possibility? I Don't think she can grow hair an inch a day..
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Post by Anna on Jul 7, 2019 12:21:30 GMT
Why is it such a easy thing that the unreleased song is got to leak? There are many people who have access to the track. Record company, Avril, sound engineers, studio personal... Unless they sign strict rules which prevent this from happening, they can leak the track with no consequences. Not to mention that sometimes labels want tracks to leak.
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Post by StrongSweet on Jul 7, 2019 14:34:33 GMT
Why is it such a easy thing that the unreleased song is got to leak? There are many people who have access to the track. Record company, Avril, sound engineers, studio personal... Unless they sign strict rules which prevent this from happening, they can leak the track with no consequences. Not to mention that sometimes labels want tracks to leak.that's the point right there. If they want to keep it in the ice forever, wouldn't be difficult job, along with today's internet security. Look how many unreleased songs still in the ice. I don't get the idea to say oh it's illegal when obviously someone who has leaked song didn't even need to carry out any legal issue. If Avril and her label must keep her material safe, they know what contract must have been made. Please don't treat it like someone tried to break the rules and insult her when a person who has been doing this for decades didn't even set the rules at the beginning. geez
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 7, 2019 15:09:30 GMT
It doesn’t matter. It’s illegal because you are stealing material from someone else without authorization.
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Post by aia on Jul 7, 2019 16:52:11 GMT
So Evanluke13 and Evanluke31 are gone now
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Post by mkay on Jul 7, 2019 17:05:46 GMT
So Evanluke13 and Evanluke31 are gone now Like on twitter?
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Post by Erik on Jul 7, 2019 21:49:07 GMT
So Evanluke13 and Evanluke31 are gone now Like on twitter? yep unfortunately. "we" literally killed an account who sometimes provided new information for us.
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Post by Limbo Messiah on Jul 7, 2019 22:58:59 GMT
yep unfortunately. "we" literally killed an account who sometimes provided new information for us. oooooh if you only knew...
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Post by Uncle Bob on Jul 8, 2019 5:59:59 GMT
If you want to talk about the HAW album, this is the place to do it. If you want to talk about evanluke, it's not. Either create a separate thread or knock it off. He's twitter's problem now.
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Post by Jinkxx on Jul 8, 2019 8:58:24 GMT
So can we make a new rating now? like what song is your favorite now HAW is out for a few months. I think it's really difficult since I like SO many songs SO much but I try.
1. Birdie 2. TMIO 3. IFILWTD 4. It Was In Me 5. HAW 6. DB 7. Souvenir 8. Goddess 9. Bigger Wow 10. Warrior 11. Crush 12. LMI
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Post by Duwod on Jul 8, 2019 14:56:51 GMT
Here my actual ranking but I think it will chance after a while.
12. Love Me Insane 11. Bigger Wow 10. Tell Me It’s Over 9. Birdie 8. Crush 7. Goddess 6. Dumb Blonde 5. Head Above Water 4. I Fell In Love With The Devil 3. Warrior
I‘m really struggling if I should put Souvenir or It Was In Me first. xD I‘m listening to both and I love both so much but I think these last few weeks I‘ve been listening to Souvenir so..
2. It Was In Me 1. Souvenir
There is something with Souvenir I love.. never thought it would be my number one though.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 8, 2019 14:59:27 GMT
1. Birdie 2. TMIO 3. Crush 4. LMI 5. Goddess 6. Souvenir 7. HAW 8. Warrior 9. Bigger Wow 10. IWIM 11. DB 12. IFILWTD
Yeah controversial rankings, I know.
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