birdie
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Post by birdie on Feb 11, 2019 20:40:23 GMT
I'm really sorry that we come to this point, but i completely understand why you guys wanna closed the forum, things were getting of out control lately, and even closing the thread didn't change a thing, the people involved continue to pursue a behavior that damaged all of us in the end, and for the person that said it was the stuff fault well... i don't really think so, they were polite all the time, they showed patient when really they could've been more rude but no, and its pretty normal to become tired of certain behaviours! People have to learn to follow the rules, if a certain things is forbidden why insist? Anyway, no one told you that you cant do it outside the forum, its still illegal but hey, as long as you do it outside we don't care, you could've simply dm your email (its a general "you") and talk about it out of here, and everyone get what they want!
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sam
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Post by sam on Feb 11, 2019 20:42:24 GMT
I’m not on here enough to have witnessed the level of discomfort the current staff is feeling. I was an admin here for years on the old forum; it was an exhausting job. A lot of you guys might see it as people with titles trying to “throw their weight around” so to speak but I remember being in the old staff threads discussing how to make the forums better, how to improve the site features, how to make this place the top spot for fans to come together and how we can engage with Avril herself. There’s some things I don’t necessarily agree with on here - I do think in particular to the recent leaked snippets back and forth that demanding members not be allowed to share/discuss through PM is wrong. On the public forums absolutely do not share, we didn’t allow that back in the day either. No streaming, no download links, etc. That small detail though I’m sure isn’t the straw that broke the camels back here and I never felt the need to gripe about it. What’s the point? I don’t know why it’s so difficult for people to just be respectful to one another. This isn’t some random small site- Bandaids has been around for 17 years- the forum opened 16 years ago. We were incredibly involved with Avril on the old site and I’m sure the current staff engages with her/her team now. To see it all go down the drain because people are incapable of being decent or respectful is a damn shame- and I’m not blaming that on the staff. If I as an administrator was getting unwarranted and harassing PMs over site policy, I’d try to discuss with that member if they hadn’t had a history of that behavior and other staff and then promptly ban your ass and then your IP if you re-registered. This site is really different than it used to be and for the most part I think that’s a good thing! I think things have been handled pretty well over the years and I remember the first time the forum “went dead”. It was down for like a year, right? I had already quit the staff by then and I wasn’t following Avril as closely anymore but I remember everybody was very hushed and old members didn’t know what the hell was happening to the site (I was bombarded with messages in social media way after I left staff asking me) which in turn pissed me off more with my old staff mates. Then a group of you guys got together on your own time and brought it back essentially from the bottom which I really didn’t see happening back then but you guys managed to keep it going and I thought that was pretty awesome so I came back and re-registered. I really don’t have too much advice or constructive critisism; as said, I’m not on here a whole lot. Best thing I can say for now is do a fresh post stating the forum rules and don’t hesitate using that ban feature if the staff group deems necessary. I hope this site stays alive as long as it can because at the core, Bandaids is a fantastic community and the forums was always my favorite, and I think overall from how I’ve seen things handled that the forum is in good hands. Thank you.
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Sarah93
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Post by Sarah93 on Feb 11, 2019 20:45:12 GMT
Hi guys, it is really sad to see two Staff members leave because of how stressful things can get in here and because of harassment. I really hope we'll be able to find someone to join us so we can keep running this amazing forum. I also want to thank everyone who has understood why I closed the thread yesterday, I really hope this will make you think and hopefully this place will be a great and fun place again to talk about our beloved singer.
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Post by biggerwow on Feb 11, 2019 20:49:53 GMT
I think the only thing you can do at this point is...
- state the rules again on the pinned threads - highlight that the issue is mostly about the leaks and how it conflicts with Proboards rules not just the views and rules of the staff (I don't think many realize that bandaids is being HOSTED by another site) - ban the ones who have not followed the rules / are downright disrespectful - pause new members until Friday if possible - Also I know the staff is against spreading leaks but still suggest other places where they can continue their discourse like Reddit, discord app, Twitter, ATRL. Since I often see replies like "where else would we talk about this" when people are told to take it somewhere else.
Idk but I don't wanna see this shut down again. Not until I get to share all my thoughts on HAW. I literally have no one. Unless I go on Twitter and voice it out on the open webs 🤔
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ame · 雨
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Post by ame · 雨 on Feb 11, 2019 20:56:00 GMT
Ok...picture this: What if we make Avril herself a staff member? Ok...forget it, her team is awful 😄😄
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nebreklaw
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Post by nebreklaw on Feb 11, 2019 20:56:37 GMT
My truth tea: I’m new here. However, in the little time on the forums I’ve loved the fact I’ve been able to connect with so many fans and discuss everything Avril (it’s also increased my hype for HAW *which was already max hype). Because of this, to see the forum close would honestly be heartbreaking (dramatic I know), so y’all better not or imma be saddddd. Also, since I am new I don’t know the old tea so if someone wants to serve me a cup of hot steaming tea, I’m all ears and ready to sip. Peace. ❤️
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Becky
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Post by Becky on Feb 11, 2019 20:59:41 GMT
I think it's quite simple - if you're trying to defend being a dick to the staff team then maybe you're part of the problem. I just don't get it - if it's against Proboards' rules then we can't do it. It's not to spite anyone or to be boring or annoying, that's just the rules we have to follow. It's not negatively impacting your life - chill. I mostly stopped posting because of how busy I am but also because I feel this has turned into a negative place. There are still some great discussions but I got fed up of the arguments and complaining too. If there's an issue then communicate in a respectable manner. Sure there will be misinterpretations via text or language barriers but just be polite. If you're a bully or give anyone abuse then you deserve to get banned. Absolutely baffled. (Pls don't close the forum)
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Post by kai2k on Feb 11, 2019 21:00:19 GMT
#ThankUNext
Sorry but this forum has been crap in recent years.
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birdie
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Post by birdie on Feb 11, 2019 21:05:11 GMT
I think the only thing you can do at this point is... - state the rules again on the pinned threads - highlight that the issue is mostly about the leaks and how it conflicts with Proboards rules not just the views and rules of the staff (I don't think many realize that bandaids is being HOSTED by another site) - ban the ones who have not followed the rules / are downright disrespectful - pause new members until Friday if possible - Also I know the staff is against spreading leaks but still suggest other places where they can continue their discourse like Reddit, discord app, Twitter, ATRL. Since I often see replies like "where else would we talk about this" when people are told to take it somewhere else. Idk but I don't wanna see this shut down again. Not until I get to share all my thoughts on HAW. I literally have no one. Unless I go on Twitter and voice it out on the open webs 🤔 Exactly, but i also think that we can do our part as well, if we see someone break the rules or having some disrespectful behaviours towards someone (other members/stuff) i'd say to report them istantly so the moderators can do something about it, cause they have a life and obviously it's impossible to keep everything under control! Anyway, don't close the site, not yet at least, i know that you are tired, but give it another try, if things continue to go wrong, in that case close it, but its not fair to pay for someone else's mistake, most of us just wanted to talk about the imminent release, and to share opinions towards the songs in the new album, we don't care about the leaked stuff/illegal material, we are here to support Avril and to connect with others, don't let a small portion of bad apple ruined a beautiful experience, cause for me until now was like that, even if i'm here from a very short period of time, i feel already at home, so... enforced the rules, instantly ban who deserves it, and as i'd said previously, we can help as well by report them!
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Post by deirdre on Feb 11, 2019 21:11:29 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear that some staff members are feeling so bad about abusive comments that's actually horrible! I know I don't post much on here but I follow the threads religiously like I have the page constantly open on my phone and refresh whenever I get a chance. I live in Ireland and literally have one friend who is as obsessed with Avril as much as me and I hardly get to talk to her cause of work and life in general. I would be so sad to see this forum gone because I don't get to share my love for Avril much irl and it's so nice to feel part of a community of people with the same interests (even though I don't post a lot). I don't know much about running forums but as far as I can tell the staff do a brilliant job and I can only imagine it's a frustrating job, especially since you're following another websites rules so in a way it's out of your control. Unfortunately with anything on the internet you always get horrible people who feel they can say anything behind a keyboard. I'd love to help out in terms of staff personally but as I've mentioned I don't exactly know much about how the forums work! Anyway sorry for the long post but I just wanna thank the staff and I'm sorry you've been made to feel this way!
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Post by rosegold on Feb 11, 2019 21:13:27 GMT
#ThankUNext Sorry but this forum has been crap in recent years. So why are you here? I don't get the hostility at all. You can disagree with somebody without having to be a dick about it.
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Post by Mohican. on Feb 11, 2019 21:14:51 GMT
I've seen this coming actually. It makes me sad to see where this is heading, too. This meaning that nice and supportive people like Blizz, who I have 'known' at least for five years now, have finally speak out, point out the unevitable. I saddens me to see so many intolerant replies also. Why can't you accept his/their words for what they and why do you even have to fight against them now? There's so much hate and verdict here. Like really guys, this used to be a warm and communicative place, but within the last couple months, maybe even years, I have seen anger, intolerance and venomousness grow. People verbally attacking people over lousy differences, quoting people just to point out mistakes and talking down on them... This place used to be more than that.
We all need to breathe and start thinking what we want this place to be...
Do we want to come here to share, communicate and 'be together in this'? Or do we prefer to keep on smashing and bashing.
To me not following the rules and keep on asking about illegal leaks etc. is just the peak of what has led us to this point. There's more to that than simply disobeying the obvious.
(And please guys -meaning the ones that keep on asking-, just be clever enough and do it in private so no one has to intervene = cause of course they have to if they catch you. This is logic. This is no fight that can be won. This is just common sense. I can't believe you/we are even arguing about it.)
Be respectful. Treat others the way you, yourself, want to be treated. I am really sick of this bad energy here. And we can all change that if we are ready to be respectful towards each other again. This world really is bad enough already.
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Post by jant017 on Feb 11, 2019 21:23:24 GMT
Ded @ this.
That's all.
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Post by Limbo Messiah on Feb 12, 2019 0:12:06 GMT
#ThankUNext Sorry but this forum has been crap in recent years. "crap" but it was obviously always good enough for you when you had another of your stupid covers to promote (same on the old forum).
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Post by lavigneteam on Feb 12, 2019 0:16:43 GMT
I really hope this board doesn't get shut down! I love it so much! We need a place as Little black stars to discuss avril topics! I hope avrilbandaids doesn't get shut down!! <3
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