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Post by Underclass King on Jul 16, 2015 17:20:49 GMT
Aside from the fact that releasing Hello Kitty as the lead single from Avril Lavigne would almost surely be career suicide, how do you think it would've done on the charts? It peaked at #75 on the Billboard Hot 100 becoming the second highest charting single from the album, even though it wasn't released as a single in the United States. If it's music video were to have had a higher budget and the song had the few promo spots the first two singles had, could it of been a top 10 hit (even if for all the wrong reasons)?
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Post by thyarchery on Jul 16, 2015 17:28:18 GMT
Aside from the fact that releasing Hello Kitty as the lead single from Avril Lavigne would almost surely be career suicide, how do you think it would've done on the charts? It peaked at #75 on the Billboard Hot 100 becoming the second highest charting single from the album, even though it wasn't released as a single in the United States. If it's music video were to have had a higher budget and the song had the few promo spots the first two singles had, could it of been a top 10 hit (even if for all the wrong reasons)? That. To be absolutely honest, I think it would have done better than HTNGU, due to the combined hype of being the lead single off the album and the whole racism scandal, and I don't think that the quality of the video had changed it-actually I believe that it was the fact that it's tacky to 80s levels what it made it so "successful". Everyone loves watching someone famous making a fool of himself and Avril kind of mastered it. Of course, that would have been the final firework of her career, burning bright for a few weeks to finally fade into (in the best of cases) oblivion. |
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Post by goodbye on Jul 16, 2015 17:52:22 GMT
Maybe the album would've been better in the charts Thanks to the controversy
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Post by sam on Jul 16, 2015 19:19:12 GMT
It certainly would of got alot of attention- but very much negative attention; I remember when it was released and Tumblr social justice warriors kept calling it racist ect.
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Post by thyarchery on Jul 16, 2015 19:39:31 GMT
It certainly would of got alot of attention- but very much negative attention; I remember when it was released and Tumblr social justice warriors kept calling it racist ect. :lmao: They put Xena to shame, tbh  |
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Post by sam on Jul 16, 2015 19:40:32 GMT
It certainly would of got alot of attention- but very much negative attention; I remember when it was released and Tumblr social justice warriors kept calling it racist ect. :lmao: They put Xena to shame, tbh  I'm all for what they believe in, but they're just so radical in my opinion. Anyway, I'm going slightly off topic so I'll hush. |
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Post by booknerd on Jul 16, 2015 22:59:49 GMT
It got a bit of hype for being so... I don't know if this is the correct word but I'm going to use "risque" here and you know what, I'm not so sure that's what Avril would have wanted if she presented this album using Hello Kitty. More people disliked it than enjoyed it so while it may have gotten her name further across, would it have really helped sales? I don't think so.
Just speaking from my perspective, had she opened this album with Hello Kitty I don't even think I would have listened to anything else she had to offer. I still can't believe she not only released that song but she made it a single. Here's to Never Growing Up wasn't all that but I did like that song a lot, I really liked the whole 'let's take a trip down memory lane and reminisce' .. But you want to talk about what could have been a good alternative first single, I'm set on 17. A lot of you will disagree with me but I really feel like that song had a good shot at not only being a single but also being one that people didn't forget after a month.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 17, 2015 1:23:10 GMT
I think that HK would have been successful in a Gangnam Style type of way- basically people would have only downloaded it for laughs or because it's a novelty song. The video, if done the same, would have received a lot of attention just like it did, but as we saw she received a lot of backlash and negative attention for that video, so it would have gotten her tons of press, but I don't know that it'd have necessarily helped sales. And because it's the only song like it on AL, I doubt it'd have done anything for its album sales.
So to answer the question more succinctly, it'd have done its job of getting her attention (because even negative attention is still attention) but it probably would not have helped album or single sales and it would have been the nail in the coffin of Avril ever having a serious career again.
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Post by Jack on Jul 17, 2015 2:10:03 GMT
Short-time success maybe, and not even the best one to have. Releasing it as a 4th (Asian only) single was a little indication of what could've been as worlwide, first single. As some people said, it would've been a career suicide and the nail in the coffin for her. Oh, and I would possibly not even be a fan, I couldn't have stood something like that, it would've been TOO ridiculous and embarrassing.
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Post by Dillon on Jul 17, 2015 2:57:44 GMT
Bad publicity does in fact exist, and that's what Avril would have gotten with HK as the lead single. HTNGU was a much better single choice compared to HK. HTNGU is definitely closer to the rest of the album than HK. HK is like the sore thumb of AL (i.e. it sticks out  ). |
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Post by katy on Jul 17, 2015 11:02:27 GMT
What Andrea said basically. If HK had been the first single I doubt I'd have bothered with the album, HTNGU was bad enough.
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Post by Jinkxx on Jul 17, 2015 11:33:05 GMT
Ofcourse not, people wouldn't take her serious and she would ruine her career.
I like the song tbh but it wouldn't be a smart move to choose it as a first single.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 11:55:09 GMT
Aside from the fact that releasing Hello Kitty as the lead single from Avril Lavigne would almost surely be career suicide, how do you think it would've done on the charts? Your definition of "career suicide" is a bit shaky. How would it be career suicide if it was commercially successful? And if everyone who bought HK thought the rest of the album sounded like HK, they'd probably buy that too, right? I refuse to believe the majority of customers are stupid enough to buy things they only enjoy ironically. I think people genuinely like songs like this and Gangnam Style, as baffling as that is for me. For the record, I hate HK, but that's beside the point. It might have been a good choice as the lead single, from the perspective of marketing strategy. Let's face it, it's not THAT different from Girlfriend, and we all know how that flop single totally killed her career.  |
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Post by StrongSweet on Jul 17, 2015 12:13:00 GMT
in short term, it helps
in long term, it ruins
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Post by Underclass King on Jul 17, 2015 16:28:34 GMT
Aside from the fact that releasing Hello Kitty as the lead single from Avril Lavigne would almost surely be career suicide, how do you think it would've done on the charts? Your definition of "career suicide" is a bit shaky. How would it be career suicide if it was commercially successful? And if everyone who bought HK thought the rest of the album sounded like HK, they'd probably buy that too, right? I refuse to believe the majority of customers are stupid enough to buy things they only enjoy ironically. I think people genuinely like songs like this and Gangnam Style, as baffling as that is for me. For the record, I hate HK, but that's beside the point. It might have been a good choice as the lead single, from the perspective of marketing strategy. Let's face it, it's not THAT different from Girlfriend, and we all know how that flop single totally killed her career. It could be commercially successful but completely destroy her career with how the charts work in places like the United States. Streaming accounts for much of what determines a songs chart position aside from radio and sales. So barely anyone could purchase a song and it could make it to the top 40 (which is what's considered a hit) a la We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow by Soko, which peaked at #9 with 96% of its chart points coming from streams. Hello Kitty actually charted based off of 92% of its chart points which came from Vevo. So from the hype of it being a lead single, the views could've been much higher leading to a hit song. Although like others have stated, it'd be the final nail in the coffin and she'd have no chance of ever being taken seriously again thereby being a form of "career suicide". |
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