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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2015 21:09:36 GMT
tldr: We probably won't hear new music in 2016Obviously Avril's main priority right now is her health (and quite rightly so). However, it's great to see (even though she is ill) that Avril is still wanting to work. Remember this tweet: I admire the fact she is still passionate about making music. And, it's great we have FLY coming out very SOON. The thing is, when do you all think Avril will go back into the recording studio and officially start making Album #6? Obviously whatever illness she has got, it is not holding her back entirely, she has managed to shoot a music video. She has also stated recently (via twitter) that she 'now has the time' she may get a Dog. That sounds as though an Album and a tour are not in the near future as making an album + everything that comes with it = very time consuming. I hope we can at least get one more Avril record this decade. I just hope she gets better soon.
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Post by Dillon on Mar 17, 2015 21:26:21 GMT
Well we all know that she music made for past albums that just didn't make the cut. She even talked about releasing back to back albums when she released AL. She could surprise us by releasing some of it, whether in an album or possibly an EP. She could release some of her material while still recovering and before starting album 6.
She doesn't necessarily need to go back into the studio in order to make a new album; however, she most likely will. Whenever the time comes for album 6, I'm sure Avril will want to write songs based upon new, current stuff such as her illness. I'd say that she'll probably be getting back in the studio this year, if she hasn't already (since she does have a home studio).
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 17, 2015 21:46:27 GMT
There is no way to know. We don't know how her illness is affecting her and when she'll recover. She may be okay enough to sit in bed and write a song in her notebook, but physically being in the studio and laying down vocals is another. She should wait until she's fully recovered from her illness before she starts another album. Her health comes first.
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Post by katrina on Mar 17, 2015 22:04:53 GMT
I really hope that Avril lyrically makes an amazing album. Not only that... it would be great if she made album that she would be remember for in 2o years from now.
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Post by Jack on Mar 18, 2015 16:07:44 GMT
It doesn't seem like her priority now is to make an album, so it might take some time for her to release another one. She's been writing some stuff last year, as she's said on Twitter. So even if she's not in "full studio mode", she's still writing some song here and there, which is always good. Whatever the case may be, I hope it doesn't take much time, unless she keeps having health issues. I really hope that Avril lyrically makes an amazing album. Not only that... it would be great if she made album that she would be remember for in 2o years from now. Personally, I don't expect "genius lyrics" lyrics from her, I never did. I would expect personal and meaningful lyrics, whether they are "elaborated" or not. I think the selfwritten songs and "Tripod songs" she included on AL were fairly good, and so were GL ones. I think she should stop trying to make "hits" and release what she really wants and feels, and go back studio again and again just because there aren't "hits" and her labels "suggest" her to do so. And about making an album that's remembered 20 years from now, I don't think it's going to happen; the closest thing was LG, or even UMS (this one for fans). I just want an overall feeling of "that's the Avril I fell in love with" that I haven't gotten much lately.
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Post by funnymaster on Mar 22, 2015 4:49:51 GMT
Really seems too soon to hope for a new album from her. Of course I'm really glad she's been excited about writing new material, but nothings going to happen or should happen until she recovers from whatever illness she has. She's been pretty silent lately so I hope things are still going O.k. for her. I don't care if it takes a long time for her to come out with a new album. In my opinion she's made 5 fantastic records I really enjoy, but whenever she does come back to bring about new music, I really hope she comes back recovered and feeling strong. I'm sure then, she'll come out with something fantastic and well worth the wait.
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Post by katrina on Mar 22, 2015 12:04:07 GMT
It doesn't seem like her priority now is to make an album, so it might take some time for her to release another one. She's been writing some stuff last year, as she's said on Twitter. So even if she's not in "full studio mode", she's still writing some song here and there, which is always good. Whatever the case may be, I hope it doesn't take much time, unless she keeps having health issues. I really hope that Avril lyrically makes an amazing album. Not only that... it would be great if she made album that she would be remember for in 2o years from now. Personally, I don't expect "genius lyrics" lyrics from her, I never did. I would expect personal and meaningful lyrics, whether they are "elaborated" or not. I think the selfwritten songs and "Tripod songs" she included on AL were fairly good, and so were GL ones. I think she should stop trying to make "hits" and release what she really wants and feels, and go back studio again and again just because there aren't "hits" and her labels "suggest" her to do so. And about making an album that's remembered 20 years from now, I don't think it's going to happen; the closest thing was LG, or even UMS (this one for fans). I just want an overall feeling of "that's the Avril I fell in love with" that I haven't gotten much lately. I feel that lyrically the "style or quality" of writing has gone down from the first two albums but saw some hope with GL or songs like "GYWYL". I don't feel like I'm the only one that wants Avril to have an album that people will remember for 20 years. I bet Avril wishes she could have an album like Adele's "21". You know people are going to be talking about that album for a ever long time. Look at Alanis Morissette. She was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and honour for "Jagged Little Pill". Tell me Avril wouldn't want that. Avril would still love to win a Grammy. I don't think Avril would still be doing this if she didn't want to get better or write that amazing song that people will listen to forever. As a songwriter you keep pushing yourself to do better. I feel a lot of her songs she been writing lately is finding a catchy melody and dropping in words. I want more from her and I don't see anything wrong with that. Not a fan of "Tripod songs" I really hope they don't work together again. Maybe with David.. Im not saying Avril won't get these thing for LG or whatever. I just feel she has something more in her to give. Something much more than LG.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 22, 2015 14:14:20 GMT
I think Avril just needs inspiration. When she has something to write about that she feels strongly about, that's when she does her best work. Even with a fun, non personal album like TBDT, she was very focused and intent on what she wanted to do and in my opinion resulted in one of her best albums. She needs to figure out a clear direction for her next album and really find meaningful things to say, they don't necessarily have to be all serious songs, but things that speak to her that she feels compelled to write about. I'm sure her illness probably has or will inspire her to write something.
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Post by Jack on Mar 22, 2015 18:00:07 GMT
It doesn't seem like her priority now is to make an album, so it might take some time for her to release another one. She's been writing some stuff last year, as she's said on Twitter. So even if she's not in "full studio mode", she's still writing some song here and there, which is always good. Whatever the case may be, I hope it doesn't take much time, unless she keeps having health issues. Personally, I don't expect "genius lyrics" lyrics from her, I never did. I would expect personal and meaningful lyrics, whether they are "elaborated" or not. I think the selfwritten songs and "Tripod songs" she included on AL were fairly good, and so were GL ones. I think she should stop trying to make "hits" and release what she really wants and feels, and go back studio again and again just because there aren't "hits" and her labels "suggest" her to do so. And about making an album that's remembered 20 years from now, I don't think it's going to happen; the closest thing was LG, or even UMS (this one for fans). I just want an overall feeling of "that's the Avril I fell in love with" that I haven't gotten much lately. I feel that lyrically the "style or quality" of writing has gone down from the first two albums but saw some hope with GL or songs like "GYWYL". I don't feel like I'm the only one that wants Avril to have an album that people will remember for 20 years. I bet Avril wishes she could have an album like Adele's "21". You know people are going to be talking about that album for a ever long time. Look at Alanis Morissette. She was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and honour for "Jagged Little Pill". Tell me Avril wouldn't want that. Avril would still love to win a Grammy. I don't think Avril would still be doing this if she didn't want to get better or write that amazing song that people will listen to forever. As a songwriter you keep pushing yourself to do better. I feel a lot of her songs she been writing lately is finding a catchy melody and dropping in words. I want more from her and I don't see anything wrong with that. Not a fan of "Tripod songs" I really hope they don't work together again. Maybe with David.. Im not saying Avril won't get these thing for LG or whatever. I just feel she has something more in her to give. Something much more than LG. Fair enough. Personally, I don't want to be one of those people who think LG and UMS are the standards to value all her albums. I don't think she should be obsessed about anything, she should let her creativity flow, and not try to look for "hits" (with underwhelming, to say the least, results last albums) or try to make a Grammy-worthy song/album. I would agree she still has a lot to give in terms of artistry, but she should do it on her terms, not how fans, critics or general public would want. Of course, we would want her to make another album like our favourite one(s) or better, but sometimes you have to try to resign to what you're given.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Mar 22, 2015 18:08:03 GMT
I feel that lyrically the "style or quality" of writing has gone down from the first two albums but saw some hope with GL or songs like "GYWYL". I don't feel like I'm the only one that wants Avril to have an album that people will remember for 20 years. I bet Avril wishes she could have an album like Adele's "21". You know people are going to be talking about that album for a ever long time. Look at Alanis Morissette. She was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and honour for "Jagged Little Pill". Tell me Avril wouldn't want that. Avril would still love to win a Grammy. I don't think Avril would still be doing this if she didn't want to get better or write that amazing song that people will listen to forever. As a songwriter you keep pushing yourself to do better. I feel a lot of her songs she been writing lately is finding a catchy melody and dropping in words. I want more from her and I don't see anything wrong with that. Not a fan of "Tripod songs" I really hope they don't work together again. Maybe with David.. Im not saying Avril won't get these thing for LG or whatever. I just feel she has something more in her to give. Something much more than LG. Fair enough. Personally, I don't want to be one of those people who think LG and UMS are the standards to value all her albums. I don't think she should be obsessed about anything, she should let her creativity flow, and not try to look for "hits" (with underwhelming, to say the least, results last albums) or try to make a Grammy-worthy song/album. I would agree she still has a lot to give in terms of artistry, but she should do it on her terms, not how fans, critics or general public would want. Of course, we would want her to make another album like our favourite one(s) or better, but sometimes you have to try to resign to what you're given. +1 img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/cat_zpsa5a1f50a.png
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 22, 2015 18:09:38 GMT
I agree with you Harvey. Avril does her best work when she does what she feels, not what she's being told to do. Some fans in the end won't like it, but that is the way everything is. You can't please everyone. Even if she tried to, say, make an UMS 2.0, which is the album that is most liked by fans, there are going to be a small percentage of fans that wouldn't be happy with it. And I don't know if she's aspiring to make that type of record anyway. I just want Avril to make a record she feels connected to, that SHE wants to make, whether it is pop, rock, punk, rap, country, polka, I don't care. It could be an entire album of HK-themed songs, a lot of people would surely hate it, but at least she be passionate about it, unlike how she was with AL. Even when the music isn't exactly what we want from her, when she's passionate about it, at least that always makes for better performances and she is more willing to promote it. You could see the clear difference in her demeanor when she was forced to do songs like WTH, HTNGU, and RNR, as to how she felt even with a song like HK.
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Post by Jack on Mar 22, 2015 18:23:31 GMT
Fair enough. Personally, I don't want to be one of those people who think LG and UMS are the standards to value all her albums. I don't think she should be obsessed about anything, she should let her creativity flow, and not try to look for "hits" (with underwhelming, to say the least, results last albums) or try to make a Grammy-worthy song/album. I would agree she still has a lot to give in terms of artistry, but she should do it on her terms, not how fans, critics or general public would want. Of course, we would want her to make another album like our favourite one(s) or better, but sometimes you have to try to resign to what you're given. +1 img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/cat_zpsa5a1f50a.pngI agree with you Harvey. Avril does her best work when she does what she feels, not what she's being told to do. Some fans in the end won't like it, but that is the way everything is. You can't please everyone. Even if she tried to, say, make an UMS 2.0, which is the album that is most liked by fans, there are going to be a small percentage of fans that wouldn't be happy with it. And I don't know if she's aspiring to make that type of record anyway. I just want Avril to make a record she feels connected to, that SHE wants to make, whether it is pop, rock, punk, rap, country, polka, I don't care. It could be an entire album of HK-themed songs, a lot of people would surely hate it, but at least she be passionate about it, unlike how she was with AL. Even when the music isn't exactly what we want from her, when she's passionate about it, at least that always makes for better performances and she is more willing to promote it. You could see the clear difference in her demeanor when she was forced to do songs like WTH, HTNGU, and RNR, as to how she felt even with a song like HK. Definitely. I wouldn't want an album full of HKs, but I also wouldn't want a "UMS 2.0" that she felt forced to do because she thought that's what people would want. I'm not an artist, but I understand the value of doing what you want, not forcing things and letting your creavity flow. I might not like TBDT album/era that much, but she looked passionate on and off stage. However, especially during AL, she's looked uninterested and her concerts have been underwhelming, to say the least.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 22, 2015 18:35:42 GMT
I agree with you Harvey. Avril does her best work when she does what she feels, not what she's being told to do. Some fans in the end won't like it, but that is the way everything is. You can't please everyone. Even if she tried to, say, make an UMS 2.0, which is the album that is most liked by fans, there are going to be a small percentage of fans that wouldn't be happy with it. And I don't know if she's aspiring to make that type of record anyway. I just want Avril to make a record she feels connected to, that SHE wants to make, whether it is pop, rock, punk, rap, country, polka, I don't care. It could be an entire album of HK-themed songs, a lot of people would surely hate it, but at least she be passionate about it, unlike how she was with AL. Even when the music isn't exactly what we want from her, when she's passionate about it, at least that always makes for better performances and she is more willing to promote it. You could see the clear difference in her demeanor when she was forced to do songs like WTH, HTNGU, and RNR, as to how she felt even with a song like HK. Definitely. I wouldn't want an album full of HKs, but I also wouldn't want a "UMS 2.0" that she felt forced to do because she thought that's what people would want. I'm not an artist, but I understand the value of doing what you want, not forcing things and letting your creavity flow. I might not like TBDT album/era that much, but she looked passionate on and off stage. However, especially during AL, she's looked uninterested and her concerts have been underwhelming, to say the least. Oops, sorry I thought it was Harvey that said that. I think you guys have very similar looking profile pictures.
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Post by Jack on Mar 22, 2015 18:41:09 GMT
Definitely. I wouldn't want an album full of HKs, but I also wouldn't want a "UMS 2.0" that she felt forced to do because she thought that's what people would want. I'm not an artist, but I understand the value of doing what you want, not forcing things and letting your creavity flow. I might not like TBDT album/era that much, but she looked passionate on and off stage. However, especially during AL, she's looked uninterested and her concerts have been underwhelming, to say the least. Oops, sorry I thought it was Harvey that said that. I think you guys have very similar looking profile pictures. Yeah, I though that was the reason I changed it to avoid more misunderstandings
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Post by katrina on Mar 22, 2015 18:55:09 GMT
Actually Avril is being told what to do. She is told by the record label to put hits on her album. So she not always doing what she wants. Even on the last album. She had to go back into the studio and do hit songs. Its never going to stop unless she can some how write amazing song that not a big anthem song or start her own label. As for the songs Avril's label want her to release is about making money. There's no way she could win an Grammy or anything with the songs she's been putting out the last few years. Also the media wants Avril to grow up image wise before they start taking her serious again. So that will hold her back too. But thats something completely different.
I'm not really a big fan of UMS. I think it was good at that time but not any album I go back to listen to all the time. I think it was an album that gave her credibly in the industry. I don't think everybody really means that they want Avril to make UMS 2.0 they just haven't seen Avril step up in their eyes. They are waiting for the next level in her career like they saw with UMS.
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