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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 21, 2015 14:48:12 GMT
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Post by StrongSweet on Aug 21, 2015 15:01:23 GMT
umm, how does she know??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:03:51 GMT
"just woke up one day and realised it"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:14:09 GMT
To shield Avril
www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/newsweek-avril-lavigne-on-hilary-duffs-comment-that-avril-should-appreciate-her-fans-more-who-the-hell-cares-what-she-has-to-say-about-my-fanshilary-duffs-such-a-goody-goody-such-a-mommys-girl-72064522.html
Ali talks to Lavigne during her promotional tour for her second album, "Under My Skin," due out May 25. The 19-year-old singer wrote the words and melodies for the album rather than handing over her raw ideas to hitmakers The Matrix, the songwriting team largely responsible for her last CD. Lavigne's new songs are rougher and darker than the bright, addictive pop of "Let Go," while her voice, which is quite emotive and believable now, has lost some of its girly high pitch. "It's a more serious album in ways," Lavigne tells Ali in the March 22 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, March 15). "I wrote a song about my grandpa called 'Slipped Away.' He died when I was on tour. It's the first death I ever experienced. I never had any problems singing a song before, but every time I tried, it just wasn't right. My voice wouldn't have enough emotion in it. One night I finally did it in one take. I was shaking inside. As soon as I was done, I stepped away from the mike and started bawling." Lavigne did not let her record company, Arista, hear any music until she had written and recorded it her way. "There was no way I was gonna write songs and send them to people to rewrite them like I did last time," she says. "I need to feel I'm doing this on my own."
So Let Go was mainly created by polishing Avril's raw ideas/lyrics, developing them into songs.
But even this may not be enough for that woman, who writes and composes all of her songs since youth.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 21, 2015 15:26:02 GMT
Clearly this girl doesnt know what she's talking about. All of their songs are co-writes she's didnt write a song (and produce) a song on her own like Avril did...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:28:29 GMT
Clearly this girl doesnt know what she's talking about. All of their songs are co-writes she's didnt write a song (and produce) a song on her own like Avril did...
She's only 3 years younger than Avril.
All of their songs have no cowriters... (mainly because they are a band)
*at least their debut album (2013). dunno about 2015 album. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bones_of_What_You_Believe#Track_listing
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 21, 2015 15:38:54 GMT
Chvrches is a three members band and all of their songs were written by them. Since all three of them write all of their songs are co-written. The fact that they're a band doesnt mean that their songs aren't co-written just because it was written by the band. Every song that has more than two writers is a co-written song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:44:29 GMT
Chvrches is a three members band and all of their songs were written by them. Since all three of them write all of their songs are co-written.
Interesting logic. But I view a band as a "single artist", and co-writer as a songwriter who writes a song for another artist.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 21, 2015 15:52:28 GMT
Chvrches is a three members band and all of their songs were written by them. Since all three of them write all of their songs are co-written.
Interesting logic. But I view a band as a "single artist", and co-writer as a songwriter who writes a song for another artist.
That is wrong and not fair. So Avril's songs that she wrote with Evan are cowrites and Chvrches' songs are not, while the first were written by two and the later by three people. The music industry and sites that register song titles don't share your (delusional) view. For every song they the name and surname of every writer. They don't have the ''all song written by chvrches'' but rather all of their names separately. So again, all of Chvrches songs are co-written. Punkt, basta!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:54:45 GMT
Interesting logic. But I view a band as a "single artist", and co-writer as a songwriter who writes a song for another artist.
That is wrong and not fair. So Avril's song that she wrote with Evan are cowrites and Chvrches' songs are not, while the first were written by two and the later by three people. The music industry and sites that register song titles don't share your (delusional) view. For every song they list by name and surename every of the writers. They don't have the ''all song written by chvrches'' but rathet all of their namey separately. So again, all of Chvrches songs are co-written. Punkt, basta!
But the fact is, "cowriting" is not the main thing she's talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:58:32 GMT
"That way involved learning the power of saying “no”: to the photoshoots that wanted to push the men to the back, to co-writers, to outside producers, to the women’s magazines who wanted to interview Mayberry on her own."
I'm not the only one with this pov.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 21, 2015 16:06:50 GMT
"That way involved learning the power of saying “no”: to the photoshoots that wanted to push the men to the back, to co-writers, to outside producers, to the women’s magazines who wanted to interview Mayberry on her own."
I'm not the only one with this pov.
She just said no to extra co-writers that are not in the band and that the label probably wanted them to work with. She didn't say that her bandmates are not co-writers. Anyway, even if she said what you wanted her to day, it's still wrong.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 21, 2015 17:12:14 GMT
I don't think it's a secret to anyone that Avril wasn't the main writer on LG. Of course she contributed ideas, but given how young and inexperienced she was there was no way the label would have allowed her to write without some help from the pros. The reason they marketed the album the way they did is because, even if Avril wasn't the primary writer, she was still involved with the creation of the songs unlike other pop artists of that time like Britney, NSynch, and that sort of thing.
A cowriter is someone who writes a song with someone else. If they are writing a song FOR another artist they are a songwriter. That is why the prefix "co" is in from of it because they are writing WITH someone else.
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Post by StrongSweet on Aug 21, 2015 17:14:30 GMT
This band is such a loser. The idea for the songs in Let Go was still come up by her. No her, no one could make Let Go, even Matrix alone.
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Post by Jack on Aug 21, 2015 17:19:41 GMT
Well, she didn't say anything we didn't knew before, that's one of the reason I'm not a big fan of that album/era; a lot of aspects were manufactered/marketed to certain types of people, they wanted to make Avril so relatable and "real" that years later people realised they were kind of "tricked". We complain about how her labels treated her during last two albums to get "hits", but during the making of Let Go something similar happened; the only good thing is that she was a rookie and they could play with that, and they did it quite well, hence why she was so successful those years. And about the co-writing debate, a band is consisted of several members, and each person is credited as one writer. It's true that sometimes in booklets and other places it may say "Written by Chvrches" , but when it comes to writing credits in places like SOCAN, ASCAP, BMI or Songfile, there will be a few people credited as writers. Just because they don't use outside writers, that doesn't make the song(s) less CO-written. I don't think it's a secret to anyone that Avril wasn't the main writer on LG. Of course she contributed ideas, but given how young and inexperienced she was there was no way the label would have allowed her to write without some help from the pros. The reason they marketed the album the way they did is because, even if Avril wasn't the primary writer, she was still involved with the creation of the songs unlike other pop artists of that time like Britney, NSynch, and that sort of thing.
A cowriter is someone who writes a song with someone else. If they are writing a song FOR another artist they are a songwriter. That is why the prefix "co" is in from of it because they are writing WITH someone else. Yes, that's true, but later people like that girl realised Avril wasn't as involved as her marketing team (or even herself sometimes) led to believe. Some people could've even thought Avril was the only writer consider how it was marketed sometimes. After a few years, it was manufactured as the "pop girls" where, but just in another way that was attractive for other type of audiences.
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