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Post by jackster31 on Sept 1, 2015 18:07:57 GMT
Funny how people defend and actually praise Avrils style of performing now, when we all complained about it not long ago. I dont want to go off-topic here and start the discussion all over again but Avrils boring behaviour on tour is one of the main reasons why she cant fill even 5000 seats anymore. Imo its silly to say she is so much better or realer than taylor... Call Avril "boring" all you like, but the way Taylor was carrying on beside her was just ridiculous imo. I mean headbanging like a freaking maniac and "catwalking" like she was on a runway. That was silly. If those moves were choreographed, she needs to fire that guy or girl. Avril's performance of her song was fine. She's not likely to jump around on it like when she was 17 ffs. I'm glad we got to see Avril perform but make no mistake Team Swift was in it for themselves and maintaining Taylor's manufactured wholesome image.
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Post by booknerd on Sept 1, 2015 19:04:00 GMT
I wasn't too into this... I mean granted Avril is still not herself but it didn't sound that amazing and they looked like total opposites on stage. Taylor is moving around and Avril is as still as a board and every time Taylor went in for a hug Avril kind of looked like she'd have rather avoided all the close proximity lol. Regardless, it IS nice to see Avril on stage again and I have to admit it is nice to see her with Taylor, as I've really been getting into her music lately.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 1, 2015 20:29:01 GMT
Even though her disinterest began long before she ever had Lyme disease, I'm hoping what happened this era can mainly be attributed to a) Epic screwing her over before it even started and her not getting to do the album she wanted and b) Lyme. I'm hoping that next era she can do what she wants so that she will feel more passionate about it, and obviously she should also be recovered by then, so I hope to see better performances from her next era too. The AL Tour was just despicable, even if a lot of it was due to her illness, the setlist was horrid and there was just no effort put into any of it. That cannot and should not ever happen again. She couldn't even be bothered to come up with a decent name, the Avril Lavigne Tour? Really? Pathetic. I had a great time when I went but we all know she can do so much better than that.
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Post by elsablackstar on Sept 1, 2015 20:38:27 GMT
It was great to see Avril back on stage again second time after Lyme! She sounds amazing when she performed with Taylor! I really hope she will be 100% better from her Lyme disease
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Post by avril83 on Sept 1, 2015 20:45:13 GMT
She was awesome on stage, her vocal was brilliant.. really perfect. And she looked beautiful with her long long blonde hair, she seemed shining on its own. I think Taylor's hug was fake but she needed to quell the controversy about m&g and inviting Avril she made a great advertisement.. Avril also had the opportunity to perform again after so long time with a so huge crowd and she rocks
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 1, 2015 20:54:29 GMT
Taylor's hug was not fake… she hugs everyone. I love how people here keep thinking Taylor is so "fake" when she's one of the most genuine people you'll probably ever see. Sometimes her stage moves look contrived, it's true. But she really has a good heart. She sent some of her fans Christmas presents. She visited a little boy who wanted to meet her. She invited fans into her home to hear her play her entire album early and she made cookies for them. She donated millions of books to a library in Nashville. All of the proceeds from one of her singles went to the New York public school system. She's partnered with several charitable organizations and donated millions of dollars to all different charities and benefits. She wrote a song about a little boy who died of cancer. I dare anyone who thinks she is "fake" or whatever to watch the Journey to Fearless documentary. I used to completely not understand the fuss over her until I watched that documentary and it completely changed my entire perception of her. Taylor is a great person, if you think she is "fake" then you just simply don't know anything about her. Many people say the same thing about Avril, yet we all know she's a good and giving person. Her fans know who she is, just like Taylor's fans know who Taylor is.
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Post by eismann on Sept 1, 2015 21:05:38 GMT
I think none of us knows what real and whats fake. But if you think Avril is 100% real, you are naive. Same goes for Taylor. Everybody in this business has to do fake things sometimes. But I dont think that you can tell from a hug that Taylor is fake... she has an akward body-moving, so maybe that is the reason why it looks strange.
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Post by avril83 on Sept 1, 2015 21:09:35 GMT
Taylor's hug was not fake… she hugs everyone. I love how people here keep thinking Taylor is so "fake" when she's one of the most genuine people you'll probably ever see. Sometimes her stage moves look contrived, it's true. But she really has a good heart. She sent some of her fans Christmas presents. She visited a little boy who wanted to meet her. She invited fans into her home to hear her play her entire album early and she made cookies for them. She donated millions of books to a library in Nashville. All of the proceeds from one of her singles went to the New York public school system. She's partnered with several charitable organizations and donated millions of dollars to all different charities and benefits. She wrote a song about a little boy who died of cancer. I dare anyone who thinks she is "fake" or whatever to watch the Journey to Fearless documentary. I used to completely not understand the fuss over her until I watched that documentary and it completely changed my entire perception of her. Taylor is a great person, if you think she is "fake" then you just simply don't know anything about her. Many people say the same thing about Avril, yet we all know she's a good and giving person. Her fans know who she is, just like Taylor's fans know who Taylor is. I'm not saying Taylor is fake, however i think she is a very good singer and a caring person as you tell.. I refer in particular to her hug, I think it's untrued and forced by all happened in the last week.. I am not a hater absolutely but it's my opinion of the facts
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 1, 2015 21:10:47 GMT
Taylor's hug was not fake… she hugs everyone. I love how people here keep thinking Taylor is so "fake" when she's one of the most genuine people you'll probably ever see. Sometimes her stage moves look contrived, it's true. But she really has a good heart. She sent some of her fans Christmas presents. She visited a little boy who wanted to meet her. She invited fans into her home to hear her play her entire album early and she made cookies for them. She donated millions of books to a library in Nashville. All of the proceeds from one of her singles went to the New York public school system. She's partnered with several charitable organizations and donated millions of dollars to all different charities and benefits. She wrote a song about a little boy who died of cancer. I dare anyone who thinks she is "fake" or whatever to watch the Journey to Fearless documentary. I used to completely not understand the fuss over her until I watched that documentary and it completely changed my entire perception of her. Taylor is a great person, if you think she is "fake" then you just simply don't know anything about her. Many people say the same thing about Avril, yet we all know she's a good and giving person. Her fans know who she is, just like Taylor's fans know who Taylor is. I'm not saying Taylor is fake, however i think she is a very good singer and a caring person as you tell.. I refer in particular to her hug, I think it's untrued and forced by all happened in the last week.. I am not a hater absolutely but it's my opinion of the facts Wasn't referring to just you… but certain others that feel the need to keep constantly taking shots at Taylor every chance they get, even though it is obvious they know nothing about her.
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Post by avril83 on Sept 1, 2015 21:23:21 GMT
I'm not saying Taylor is fake, however i think she is a very good singer and a caring person as you tell.. I refer in particular to her hug, I think it's untrued and forced by all happened in the last week.. I am not a hater absolutely but it's my opinion of the facts Wasn't referring to just you… but certain others that feel the need to keep constantly taking shots at Taylor every chance they get, even though it is obvious they know nothing about her. I understand I would like if Avril will cooperate with Taylor for a new single, i think it would be a great solution to relaunch her image
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Post by Becky on Sept 1, 2015 21:31:09 GMT
I've never understood all the hate pop artists get. 1) it's a career, and we all want to do things that will help our careers and 2) we're judging them on the person they present to the cameras, media and tabloids/gossip mags, and hearsay etc. If an artist was really fake - what would it even matter? Just be happy they're successful and having a good life. Chances are if you don't like a pop artist, they probably aren't going to be around for that long with how the industry works. Anyways, not aimed at anyone, just a rant. I thought it was fab, looks like Taylor puts on a good show and I think her awkwardness/silliness just makes her seem more human. Avril looked and sounded fab. Plus Complicated isn't really an energetic live song, she'd look silly if she was running around and jumping tbh. Now if it was Girlfriend she was performing and she stood still then that would be something to complain about
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 1, 2015 22:48:39 GMT
Wasn't referring to just you… but certain others that feel the need to keep constantly taking shots at Taylor every chance they get, even though it is obvious they know nothing about her. I understand I would like if Avril will cooperate with Taylor for a new single, i think it would be a great solution to relaunch her image Even though Taylor is fully pop now I wonder if she'd ever consider doing another country/acoustic type song. I think Avril would sound great on a song like that, a Dixie Chicks type of song. Taylor is such a fabulous songwriter, if Taylor wrote it and Av sang it it'd be
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Post by sam on Sept 1, 2015 23:11:20 GMT
Is it legal to put a download link for that duet video here? Not sure, I wouldn't though just to be safe; may break ProBoards ToS
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Post by niccolo on Sept 2, 2015 2:10:26 GMT
Taylor was rocking out and being silly and stanning for Complicated for a few minutes. Everyone who is now insulting her is implying that Avril wasted her time traveling to San Diego in order to do this damage control performance. JUST ENJOY IT AND FOCUS ON AVRIL IF YOU HATE TAYLOR.
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Post by tilak on Sept 2, 2015 4:03:24 GMT
Well, now I really hate surprises.. The concert venue was like 10 minutes from here and I definitely wasn't aware. I was so disappointed. I was in India and there were definitely no stars shining about Avril's concert there and that's the reason I chose California for my further studies and wow she just was there like few minutes from here and I couldn't see her. :flopfan:
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