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Post by Jame Kung on Sept 2, 2015 4:12:43 GMT
Is it legal to put a download link for that duet video here? Not sure, I wouldn't though just to be safe; may break ProBoards ToS Then if anyone wants the 3 best clips from Youtube, you can send me a message
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Post by Uncle Bob on Sept 2, 2015 10:04:30 GMT
Is it legal to put a download link for that duet video here? Do you have the legal right to distribute Avril's intellectual property? What follows below are parts of a PM I sent to **** regarding something he posted to youtube some years ago. Because he was a bandaids staff member, I didn't post it publicly so as not to embarass him. I don't care any more about his privacy. I'm not at liberty to disclose the specific guidance I have received regarding what types of links they have asked me to report. What I can tell you is, they don't seem to act on links to "streamed" video and audio of material that has been officially released. Therefore, I did not and would not report a youtube video of 'Complicated'. A download link would be another story.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 2, 2015 11:58:43 GMT
What are the rules for people who use Avril's material such as songs, videos, and photos, but they use it for a creative purpose, such as to make a lyric video, fan made music video, or tribute video?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 12:27:08 GMT
I'm not at liberty to disclose the specific guidance I have received regarding what types of links they have asked me to report. Sorry to be 'that guy', but this part I don't understand. In most countries, it's a citizen's right to know the law. I don't see this as being any different, and I don't understand why only certain people would be privy to what other people are allowed to put on the internet. It seems like important information which should be available for everyone.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 2, 2015 12:38:29 GMT
^ I agree. If you don't want people putting up stuff they aren't supposed to, then tell us what it is we're allowed to post and not post and it won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 13:26:24 GMT
I may not understand something, but if I filmed this performance by myself why can't I do with it whatever I want? I think that kind of video Jame Kung offered us?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 13:40:44 GMT
I may not understand something, but if I filmed this performance by myself why can't I do with it whatever I want? I think that kind of video Jame Kung offered us?
#JasonSheldon
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 13:49:04 GMT
I may not understand something, but if I filmed this performance by myself why can't I do with it whatever I want? I think that kind of video Jame Kung offered us?
#JasonSheldon They shouldn't allow filming then..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 13:51:51 GMT
They shouldn't allow filming then..
Taylor Swift They don't mind filming, but they are strict towards the use of the taken films or photos.
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Post by Becky on Sept 2, 2015 14:13:55 GMT
I think it's because you don't actually own the song. And I've been told I'm not allowed to film concerts before, including Avril at Manchester 2008.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Sept 2, 2015 14:33:00 GMT
What are the rules for people who use Avril's material such as songs, videos, and photos, but they use it for a creative purpose, such as to make a lyric video, fan made music video, or tribute video? ^ I agree. If you don't want people putting up stuff they aren't supposed to, then tell us what it is we're allowed to post and not post and it won't happen. I'm not a lawyer. So, I'm not qualified to give you legal advice. What I can do, based on casual observation, is tell you that record labels, in general, seem to have backed off strict enforcement of their rights under current law. You have rights too. Some of them are prescribed under the "fair use" doctrine. " fair usenoun (in US copyright law) the doctrine that brief excerpts of copyright material may, under certain circumstances, be quoted verbatim for purposes such as criticism, news reporting, teaching, and research, without the need for permission from or payment to the copyright holder." Based on my limited understanding of fair use, you do not necessarily have the right to use a complete work (such as a song) to make a video without proper permissions. However, in this day and age, the digital cat is out of the bag. The industry understands this. On the other hand, they are not about to make it public they have surrendered any rights. There are millions of fan made videos on youtube and the record companies aren't losing their minds about it. If you make a lyric video and post it to youtube, it is doubtful any will sue you. If you make a lyric video and sell it on DVD, you might have problems. There is a big difference between streaming and downloading. There's also a big difference between commercial and noncommercial use. If you stream a fan made video and don't charge anyone for it, you might be okay. If you upload it so that others can download it, their attitude seems to be different. Don't ask me why. With regard to the images or videos you might use in such a fan made production, it largely depends on the copyright holder. You don't have the wholesale right to collect random images and videos from various web sites and use them. It happens all the time and a lot of people get away with it all the time. For example: Let's say I shoot a photo or video of Avril in public. I can copyright it and sell the right to use it to TMZ or anyone else I want. If you copy it from TMZ, they might be able to claim copyright infringement, as might I. It's a complicated subject and I don't claim to be any kind of expert. I don't make the rules and am not in a position to give permission regarding anything.
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Post by Jame Kung on Sept 2, 2015 14:44:17 GMT
oh thanks for explaining it's just 3 best videos of that live from Youtube that i downloaded before it's been deleted on Youtube by what they call 'rights' I know this thing would happen because Taylor Swift's tour videos are very stricted not like Avril's one
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 14:48:15 GMT
Sadly I was too lazy to watch the performance, decided to check on it later, but when I did, the videos were already deleted.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Sept 2, 2015 14:58:34 GMT
I'm not at liberty to disclose the specific guidance I have received regarding what types of links they have asked me to report. Sorry to be 'that guy', but this part I don't understand. In most countries, it's a citizen's right to know the law. I don't see this as being any different, and I don't understand why only certain people would be privy to what other people are allowed to put on the internet. It seems like important information which should be available for everyone. Of course you have the right to know the law. I just can't really share the contents of a private email between me and my contact at Sony regarding internal policies and practices. It's not like there was anything Top Secret, just private. Nothing personal. If my reply to Andrea didn't answer any questions you might have, feel free to ask me something more specific.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 21:06:02 GMT
Sadly I was too lazy to watch the performance, decided to check on it later, but when I did, the videos were already deleted.
Same shit..
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