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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 16, 2023 19:25:09 GMT
Spotify updated with the credits Song was written by ATL, Avril and Andrew Goldstein Produced by Zakk Cervini (ATL, Yungblud, Meg Myers, Pale Waves, etc) He gave an interview for the grammy's 2 years ago and mentioned her. So it was probably a dream come true moment "And you said you grew up listening to metal? What kinds of artists did you grow up listening to? I grew up listening to a lot of emo and metal music. I love Slipknot; I love Rage Against the Machine. When I was in high school, I loved Motionless in White and all this kind of heavy rock music. I love bands like All Time Low. I love aggressive music with pop sensibilities, so Korn, Nine Inch Nails. That's my bread and butter. That's the kind of music that I love, and that's my favorite kind of music to make. I also love pop music as well; I grew up listening to a lot of Avril Lavigne." www.grammy.com/news/2021-zakk-cervini-interview-producing-yungbludso no Sum 41 in the credits? that‘s surprising because Avril‘s verse is definitely a sample. Or in this case there‘s nothing in the credits? Nope Neither on Apple music
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 16, 2023 19:37:32 GMT
Bite Me (31 hrs) 1,4M Love it 1,2M Bois Lie 788k I'm A Mess (31 hrs) 728k Eyes Wide Shut 868k I wonder when/if they'll send this to radio Zakk Cervini also produced Monsters (ATL biggest radio hit)
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 16, 2023 19:46:57 GMT
Spotify updated with the credits Song was written by ATL, Avril and Andrew Goldstein Produced by Zakk Cervini (ATL, Yungblud, Meg Myers, Pale Waves, etc) He gave an interview for the grammy's 2 years ago and mentioned her. So it was probably a dream come true moment "And you said you grew up listening to metal? What kinds of artists did you grow up listening to? I grew up listening to a lot of emo and metal music. I love Slipknot; I love Rage Against the Machine. When I was in high school, I loved Motionless in White and all this kind of heavy rock music. I love bands like All Time Low. I love aggressive music with pop sensibilities, so Korn, Nine Inch Nails. That's my bread and butter. That's the kind of music that I love, and that's my favorite kind of music to make. I also love pop music as well; I grew up listening to a lot of Avril Lavigne." www.grammy.com/news/2021-zakk-cervini-interview-producing-yungbludso no Sum 41 in the credits? that‘s surprising because Avril‘s verse is definitely a sample. Or in this case there‘s nothing in the credits? do samples get credits? She didnt give any for GF (hey mickey) or DB (hollaback girl).
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 16, 2023 21:55:39 GMT
Already listened to this 60 times 🤭 I'm kind of obsessed with the way she delivers the line "It's collateral damage" and those notes at the end of the song (I'm going to repeat this, but I need more of that on AL8)
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 16, 2023 22:58:07 GMT
Sample credits only have to be given either if the artist intentionally wrote it as a copy, like knowingly directly copied (a better example is when Taylor realized Look What You Made Me Do sounded like I’m Too Sexy by Right Said Fred so they gave credits), or the artist themselves sues for copyright, like what happened after Olivia Rodrigo released the SOUR album and was hit with a ton of copyright allegations by Taylor and Paramore so they added the credits after the fact.
This was most likely not a deliberate ripoff, hence why no credits. If Sum 41 thinks it’s enough to warrant a case, they can try to sue and demand credits be given but I doubt they will. Especially because Deryck and Avril are on good terms with each other. It was most likely a coincidence, a lot of songs sound similar to other songs.
Edit: I just compared Motivation to Avril’s verse and I think they sound a bit similar but really more in rhythm and tempo but that’s it. I don’t think they sound similar enough to say it’s a direct copy or sample.
There’s also a difference between sampling and plagiarizing or interpolation. Copying a melody or lyrics is a form of plagiarism if not credited, but it could also be used as an interpolation in a song if it’s recorded by a different artist (an example is Avril singing “oops! I did it again” in Take Me Away B-side which was a pretty obvious reference to the Britney song but because it’s Avril singing it it counts as an interpolation) while sampling would be taking the recording directly, like how IWY was “sampled” in Cheers by Rihanna. They took the direct recording itself. In that case credits had to be given because they directly used part of another song.
It’s very hard to prove an artist copied a song, even when bits of it do match (GF vs I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend, IDHTT vs I’m the Kinda by Peaches for example). Most times they end up just settling out of court and paying a settlement.
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Post by 𝑺𝒖𝒏𝒔𝒆𝒕 . 𝑪𝒓𝒖𝒔𝒉 ★ on Sept 16, 2023 23:51:47 GMT
... I take my own opinion back : i listened to it a few times again, when leaving work. It's very catchy. I got into it after a while!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 23:56:46 GMT
... I take my own opinion back : i listened to it a few times again, when leaving work. It's very catchy. I got into it after a while! No legit first time I listened to it I was like uh oh my first avril song I don’t like. Then I listened to it a few times and it got better
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Post by 𝑺𝒖𝒏𝒔𝒆𝒕 . 𝑪𝒓𝒖𝒔𝒉 ★ on Sept 16, 2023 23:58:43 GMT
... I take my own opinion back : i listened to it a few times again, when leaving work. It's very catchy. I got into it after a while! No legit first time I listened to it I was like uh oh my first avril song I don’t like. Then I listened to it a few times and it got better Exactly! The guitars at the beginning gets a little addictive ..
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Post by TamyXD on Sept 17, 2023 0:08:23 GMT
She looks so tiny in that IG video.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 17, 2023 0:12:25 GMT
That video is sooooo much better than the one she posted on tiktok yesterday
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 17, 2023 0:25:53 GMT
The dance moves don’t go with the song at all though lol
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 17, 2023 0:32:44 GMT
The dance moves don’t go with the song at all though lol But let's say they go better than her lip-sync 🤐
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 0:32:45 GMT
Why do I feel like Avril is at the Super Bowl this year?
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Sept 17, 2023 9:51:01 GMT
So, they didn't perform the song last night Maybe today or the Canadian dates? S**n
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