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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 7:45:29 GMT
I don't know what her private beliefs are, but I can confidently say that Avril is not a religious person, insofar that she doesn't follow scripture. She's never said or done anything that would make me think she lives the religious lifestyle, so I don't think there's any 'hypocrisy' going on here.
Yes, she's mentioned God in her Tweets and Instagram posts. Rap artists thank God quite a lot, and then proceed to rap about bitches and money and drive-bys. My point? Talking about God and following the word of God are rather different things.
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Post by Yolandi on Nov 21, 2015 16:44:28 GMT
Her hair looks gorgeous though btw
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Post by vancityblackstar on Nov 21, 2015 22:43:37 GMT
I don't know what her private beliefs are, but I can confidently say that Avril is not a religious person, insofar that she doesn't follow scripture. She's never said or done anything that would make me think she lives the religious lifestyle, so I don't think there's any 'hypocrisy' going on here. Yes, she's mentioned God in her Tweets and Instagram posts. Rap artists thank God quite a lot, and then proceed to rap about bitches and money and drive-bys. My point? Talking about God and following the word of God are rather different things. Avril seems spiritual to me, and in spirituality you aren't under one god in specific, it is one god in general. So god could mean a different thing to Avril then to most people. We dont know what she does on Sunday's so.. i think its safe to say shes a spiritualist believer.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Nov 22, 2015 1:59:04 GMT
I don't know what her private beliefs are, but I can confidently say that Avril is not a religious person, insofar that she doesn't follow scripture. She's never said or done anything that would make me think she lives the religious lifestyle, so I don't think there's any 'hypocrisy' going on here. Yes, she's mentioned God in her Tweets and Instagram posts. Rap artists thank God quite a lot, and then proceed to rap about bitches and money and drive-bys. My point? Talking about God and following the word of God are rather different things. Avril seems spiritual to me, and in spirituality you aren't under one god in specific, it is one god in general. So god could mean a different thing to Avril then to most people. We dont know what she does on Sunday's so.. i think its safe to say shes a spiritualist believer. I would rather say that though Avril is not a religious person, her basic beliefs and morality are based on Christianity. How you were taught since you were a child doesn't change easily, unless something dramatic happens. That's why she is still talking about God, even when she is not seemingly following a certain religion. (I still don't get why was Avril's 2006 wedding was in Catholic tradition. Her family were certainly Baptist, and Deryck Whibley is an atheist.)
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 22, 2015 2:09:08 GMT
IDK IMO Avril is "spiritual" in the sense that she probably believes in things like karma and energies, like always trying to have a positive attitude about things, being a good person, doing things that make her happy, etc. Maybe even her recent experience with Lyme has increased her faith, prayer, etc. Often when people experience something traumatic like that they turn or return to faith and prayer, it's quite common, and I wouldn't be surprised if that might have helped Avril with all this stuff she has going on. She's not necessarily going to church every Sunday, reading the Bible, or being some chaste Christian following all the rules, but I do think she's a "spiritual" person to some extent and probably also does things like meditation.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 22, 2015 2:16:27 GMT
Avril seems spiritual to me, and in spirituality you aren't under one god in specific, it is one god in general. So god could mean a different thing to Avril then to most people. We dont know what she does on Sunday's so.. i think its safe to say shes a spiritualist believer. I would rather say that though Avril is not a religious person, her basic beliefs and morality are based on Christianity. How you were taught since you were a child doesn't change easily, unless something dramatic happens. That's why she is still talking about God, even when she is not seemingly following a certain religion. (I still don't get why was Avril's 2006 wedding was in Catholic tradition. Her family were certainly Baptist, and Deryck Whibley is an atheist.) How was her wedding in Catholic tradition? From what I recall she had the ceremony outdoors, not in a church, and most likely was married by a justice of the peace, not a priest. Especially if Deryck isn't religious, that wouldn't have made any sense, in fact, he would have had to convert if they wanted a Catholic ceremony. I think what you are thinking of is a traditional wedding ceremony, with the white dress. Chances are that is what Avril decided to do since that is probably all she knew, hence why when she had her second wedding she decided to go less traditional with the castle, black dress, black cake, etc.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Nov 22, 2015 2:19:29 GMT
I would rather say that though Avril is not a religious person, her basic beliefs and morality are based on Christianity. How you were taught since you were a child doesn't change easily, unless something dramatic happens. That's why she is still talking about God, even when she is not seemingly following a certain religion. (I still don't get why was Avril's 2006 wedding was in Catholic tradition. Her family were certainly Baptist, and Deryck Whibley is an atheist.) How was her wedding in Catholic tradition? From what I recall she had the ceremony outdoors, not in a church, and most likely was married by a justice of the peace, not a priest. Especially if Deryck isn't religious, that wouldn't have made any sense, in fact, he would have had to convert if they wanted a Catholic ceremony. I think what you are thinking of is a traditional wedding ceremony, with the white dress. Chances are that is what Avril decided to do since that is probably all she knew, hence why when she had her second wedding she decided to go less traditional with the castle, black dress, black cake, etc. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1214297/Avril-Lavigne-splits-rock-star-husband-Deryck-Whibley-years-marriage.html
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 22, 2015 2:21:38 GMT
How was her wedding in Catholic tradition? From what I recall she had the ceremony outdoors, not in a church, and most likely was married by a justice of the peace, not a priest. Especially if Deryck isn't religious, that wouldn't have made any sense, in fact, he would have had to convert if they wanted a Catholic ceremony. I think what you are thinking of is a traditional wedding ceremony, with the white dress. Chances are that is what Avril decided to do since that is probably all she knew, hence why when she had her second wedding she decided to go less traditional with the castle, black dress, black cake, etc. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1214297/Avril-Lavigne-splits-rock-star-husband-Deryck-Whibley-years-marriage.htmlThe Daily Fail is hardly a reputable source.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Nov 22, 2015 2:25:42 GMT
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 22, 2015 2:39:01 GMT
IDK honestly I seem to remember reading somewhere her family is Baptist. Maybe that wasn't true but I know I read it somewhere.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Nov 22, 2015 2:43:50 GMT
IDK honestly I seem to remember reading somewhere her family is Baptist. Maybe that wasn't true but I know I read it somewhere. Since she sang in the Baptist's church choir in Memphis, Tennessee, her family is definitely Baptist. But there are a lot of people & sites who believe that Avril's family is Roman Catholic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 7:42:34 GMT
After seeing that picture.....is this BA site US based or Europe?
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Post by Amanda on Dec 17, 2015 19:04:02 GMT
It seems like you're saying that Avril would be incapable of having a friends-with-benefits/strictly sexual relationship because she is Catholic or comes from a Catholic family. If so, that it completely wrong. Being Catholic does not restrict someone from living that lifestyle. It is discriminatory to say that a Catholic is limited to one kind of lifestyle and cannot do any wrong.
I don't know if that's what you were implying, but that's what is seems like. I was born & raised Catholic. If one calls oneself Catholic but lives that lifestyle, then he/she is definitely a hypocrite. Better off with no religion, if one wants to live like that. Before you say something is a biased stereotype, you should first be knowledgeable about that "something," not just believe that there are exceptions in everything. I don't agree. Many people have a religion or belief but dont take every single word from the religion literally because you are aware that people wrote it. I'm a christian and i certaintly doesn't take the bible literally because I know it was a group of men who wrote it, about their experience and their view of re-writing what Jesus did, in a specific cultural context, that I wont 100% seriously apply to my 2015 cultural context. For example, if it was written by women, or if it was written by older/younger people, in a different period, the bible could've been very different. That doesn't mean i'm a hypocrite, in my opinion it just means i have reflected upon what I believe in. But anyways - I think we're gettin off topic here haha
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 17, 2015 23:41:38 GMT
After seeing that picture.....is this BA site US based or Europe? I was going to wait for an official staff person to answer this but since I haven't seen anyone reply yet... I honestly can't say for sure because I am not a staff member. But my interpretation of things is that it might be both, actually. Originally it was a US based site I think, the previous (or might still be current) owner of the site Sharifa I think lives in Canada, and whoever owned it before her might have been from the US. But now this new BA is being run by people mostly from Europe. The Avril Bandaids France where the photos are from is just another Avril fan site that is a French extension of the BA name. They upload photos of Avril and share them with us. Avril-l.org is another site that gets photos sometimes and there are many other fansites dedicated to her that have access to media and photos and we just post what we find basically.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Dec 18, 2015 2:49:10 GMT
I was born & raised Catholic. If one calls oneself Catholic but lives that lifestyle, then he/she is definitely a hypocrite. Better off with no religion, if one wants to live like that. Before you say something is a biased stereotype, you should first be knowledgeable about that "something," not just believe that there are exceptions in everything. I don't agree. Many people have a religion or belief but dont take every single word from the religion literally because you are aware that people wrote it. I'm a christian and i certaintly doesn't take the bible literally because I know it was a group of men who wrote it, about their experience and their view of re-writing what Jesus did, in a specific cultural context, that I wont 100% seriously apply to my 2015 cultural context. For example, if it was written by women, or if it was written by older/younger people, in a different period, the bible could've been very different. That doesn't mean i'm a hypocrite, in my opinion it just means i have reflected upon what I believe in. But anyways - I think we're gettin off topic here haha It is already part of Catholic teaching that one cannot take individual biblical quotes or passages and say each one is literally true. What I was talking about was the Catholic ethics, which I believe is not related to the controversy of "literal interpretation of the bible". And the "lifestyle" I mentioned above is something that goes against Catholic ethics. Actually it's been a while since I had lost my faith - in my teens I realized that I was better off without religion. But the Catholic morality and ethics still applies to me because it was how I was raised (and therefore cannot be changed easily).
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