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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 12:18:44 GMT
Hmm. It's been a while since I fired up Fallout 4 but I remember the performance being a bit shaky at launch, especially in the cities. I've heard that GTA V can be a memory hog under certain conditions, so I wonder if your 8GB of RAM is the culprit? What does task manager tell you? As for modded Skyrim, remember that you mod games at your own risk, and some of those graphics mods are known to have a huge impact on performance (I tried some of them out, sure enough they brought my PC to its knees)... OTOH Skyrim is an old ass game, and it might well be a case of poor single core performance for both of us. Yup, my RAM probably holding me as back. 8GB isn't enough for me, it runs at near 50% usage with only Chrome and Steam on. In Skyrim, I noticed my lag was only in cities, so I removed some city mods I installed and it helped. It was most noticeable when looking at both Whiterun and the Throat of the World from outside Whiterun, but it turns out that everyone's FPS dies there. I also recently found out my motherboard only supports speeds of up to 1866MHz, so my 2400MHz RAM isn't being used to its full potential. Additionally, my CPU cooler blocked 2 of my memory slots, despite being advertised of having a "compact dimension", so I can't really upgrade to more RAM. Well if you MUST buy memory with absurdly tall heatsinks... Still, it's a common complaint, and I agree it's a bit of a design flaw. Either motherboard manufacturers need to put more space between the memory slots and the CPU socket (the hard way of solving the problem), or CPU cooler manufacturers need to accommodate builds with tall RAM (the easy way). That fan is detachable though, and I don't see the harm in shifting it up by a centimetre or so. Looking at that picture, the fan isn't directly centered on the heatsink anyway. As long as most of the heatsink is covered your temps shouldn't be affected too badly. Experiment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 1:44:14 GMT
Yup, my RAM probably holding me as back. 8GB isn't enough for me, it runs at near 50% usage with only Chrome and Steam on. In Skyrim, I noticed my lag was only in cities, so I removed some city mods I installed and it helped. It was most noticeable when looking at both Whiterun and the Throat of the World from outside Whiterun, but it turns out that everyone's FPS dies there. I also recently found out my motherboard only supports speeds of up to 1866MHz, so my 2400MHz RAM isn't being used to its full potential. Additionally, my CPU cooler blocked 2 of my memory slots, despite being advertised of having a "compact dimension", so I can't really upgrade to more RAM. Well if you MUST buy memory with absurdly tall heatsinks... Still, it's a common complaint, and I agree it's a bit of a design flaw. Either motherboard manufacturers need to put more space between the memory slots and the CPU socket (the hard way of solving the problem), or CPU cooler manufacturers need to accommodate builds with tall RAM (the easy way). That fan is detachable though, and I don't see the harm in shifting it up by a centimetre or so. Looking at that picture, the fan isn't directly centered on the heatsink anyway. As long as most of the heatsink is covered your temps shouldn't be affected too badly. Experiment. I'll try loosening the bracket a bit once my new case arrives (Corsair SPEC-02 btw). I'll also try rotating the entire cooler 90 degrees but I heard that's only possible on Intel setups. I've also been considering some low profile RAM to accommodate my RAM's current skyscraper thermal spreaders...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 9:14:10 GMT
Well if you MUST buy memory with absurdly tall heatsinks... Still, it's a common complaint, and I agree it's a bit of a design flaw. Either motherboard manufacturers need to put more space between the memory slots and the CPU socket (the hard way of solving the problem), or CPU cooler manufacturers need to accommodate builds with tall RAM (the easy way). That fan is detachable though, and I don't see the harm in shifting it up by a centimetre or so. Looking at that picture, the fan isn't directly centered on the heatsink anyway. As long as most of the heatsink is covered your temps shouldn't be affected too badly. Experiment. I'll try loosening the bracket a bit once my new case arrives ( Corsair SPEC-02 btw). I'll also try rotating the entire cooler 90 degrees but I heard that's only possible on Intel setups. I've also been considering some low profile RAM to accommodate my RAM's current skyscraper thermal spreaders... Good choice. Plenty of cooling options, plenty of holes for cable management. For cosmetic reasons I would have gone for the 100R or 200R, maybe the Obsidian series if I felt like spending a little more. But even the 'ugliest' Corsair case is a pretty sexy case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 9:24:47 GMT
In other news, I'm quite skeptical about the capabilities of the upcoming PS4 Neo, aka PS4K, aka PS4.5. The PS4 needs a hardware upgrade just to run most games at 1080p and 60fps, let alone 4K at something resembling a playable framerate. It's probably going to be little more than a 4K Blu-Ray player, with gaming performance equivalent to a mid-range PC. A pair of GTX 1080s in SLI isn't enough to run current-gen games @4k, so how on Earth is a games console going to do it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 20:10:08 GMT
I'll try loosening the bracket a bit once my new case arrives ( Corsair SPEC-02 btw). I'll also try rotating the entire cooler 90 degrees but I heard that's only possible on Intel setups. I've also been considering some low profile RAM to accommodate my RAM's current skyscraper thermal spreaders... Good choice. Plenty of cooling options, plenty of holes for cable management. For cosmetic reasons I would have gone for the 100R or 200R, maybe the Obsidian series if I felt like spending a little more. But even the 'ugliest' Corsair case is a pretty sexy case. Unfortunately my cooler is just 2mm too tall for the 100r. I thought I could shave some height with a file but that probably wouldn't do any good. A shame, too. The 100r is a nice case that doesn't have the "1337 gamer" aesthetic. My budget was $50 so the others weren't an option and I wanted a window. I really wanted the NZXT S340, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:24:07 GMT
@t1spork avrilbandaids.boards.net/post/46548/threadSorry but I couldn't resist stalking you on reddit checking out what you posted Not that you asked me for my opinion, but out of those three builds I'd personally go with the Haswell i5. Depending on the exact model, sheer performance is probably going to be better than the Skylake i3, though you won't be able to upgrade to a more modern i5 or i7 further down the road. As a bonus, you get to keep your DDR3 memory. Right now bumping that up to 16GB would cost less than starting from scratch with 8GB of DDR4. I'd take more RAM over incrementally faster RAM.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 0:44:52 GMT
@t1spork avrilbandaids.boards.net/post/46548/threadSorry but I couldn't resist stalking you on reddit checking out what you posted Not that you asked me for my opinion, but out of those three builds I'd personally go with the Haswell i5. Depending on the exact model, sheer performance is probably going to be better than the Skylake i3, though you won't be able to upgrade to a more modern i5 or i7 further down the road. As a bonus, you get to keep your DDR3 memory. Right now bumping that up to 16GB would cost less than starting from scratch with 8GB of DDR4. I'd take more RAM over incrementally faster RAM. I've been leaning towards the Haswell as LGA1150 mobos with more features like 4 memory slots are a lot cheaper than their LGA1151 equivalents. I can get a decent LGA1150 mobo for the same price as a barebones LGA1151 mobo. I did my research and the i5-4460 beats the i3-6100 in most games thanks to its 4 cores. I'm not too concerned about future-proofing as there are still people rocking first gen i5/7s with no problems. As for RAM, I actually have 8GB of Corsair memory laying around, so I can just use that with my current 8GB and get 16GB. No need to buy new RAM. And if for whatever reason I want to upgrade to 32GB, I can as DDR3 is dirt cheap. I still remember the RAM shortage of 2013 when 8GB DDR3 costed $60...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 6:26:52 GMT
It's here! Installation was a lot more difficult than I expected. I didn't have any thermal paste so I had to transfer parts with the CPU cooler attached, making it difficult to connect some cables. I even had to leave a standoff unscrewed because I couldn't reach it due to the CPU cooler. Oh, and there was space for 2 more RAM sticks, I just have to remove the CPU cooler before installing them (which I can't due to lack of thermal paste). And she's alive! Just for you, @harvey , I made sure to cable manage. You can actually see the motherboard this time! I think I did a pretty good job, though I could have done better with a modular power supply. I had to leave an ugly clump of cables on the right of the power supply, but it isn't blocking any airflow. Sick lighting. And its whisper quiet, whereas my old case sounded like an XF-84H. I just realized I forgot to connect the SATA cables for the CD drive...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 7:20:50 GMT
Looks awesome! Yeah perfect cable management is a whole other job for another day. As long as it's not blocking airflow then it's just a cosmetic thing. I spent like 4 hours perfecting my cable management (had nothing better to do that day), it looks really nice but serves no practical purpose. As for RAM, I actually have 8GB of Corsair memory laying around, so I can just use that with my current 8GB and get 16GB. No need to buy new RAM Eeeeeeeeeeeh not the best idea. Ideally the sticks should be an exact match. Same brand, same model, same speed, same timings, same colour. Computers can be extremely fussy when it comes to adding memory. Idk why this has always been the case, but it is. Try it anyway, it might work, but I wouldn't be surprised if it BSODs. Should be okay, as long as your motherboard is otherwise seated properly. Ideally you should buy some thermal paste and do a proper job of it, but judging by the red lights I assume you were able to boot your PC without any issues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 5:15:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 8:35:26 GMT
It worked then?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:45:12 GMT
It worked then? It's actually surprisingly stable! It did have to accomodate for the slower 1333 MHz by reducing speed of the other sticks, but it doesn't seem to affect performance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 3:18:37 GMT
My first experience with an Alienware laptop.
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Post by sam on Sept 4, 2016 19:48:29 GMT
I regret upgrading to the latest Windows 10 version Something tells me I'm going to be spending more time in my Linux partition.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 4:19:35 GMT
I regret upgrading to the latest Windows 10 version Something tells me I'm going to be spending more time in my Linux partition. Why is that? I personally like Windows 10. Have you done any of the tweaks to disable unwanted features and telemetry?
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