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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 15, 2021 10:37:31 GMT
Can't understand why she has to show her boobs lately... Really hope she dressed in the dark and had no idea her top was see through... I just think she doesn't wear bras any more and many tops become see through in lots of light. In person you'd probably not see anything unless she was cold because perky nipples show through everything.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 11, 2021 9:09:46 GMT
I always thought the lyric "laughing so hard it hurts like hell" in Runaway was "life is hard it hurts like hell."
I also remember a lot of people thought the lyrics "I wanna see you go down on one knee" in TINS were "I wanna see you go down on me." I can kinda understand why since the way the lyrics are paused make it seem more sexual than innocent..... "I'd say I wanna blow you......away" "wanna see you go down.....on one knee."
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 9, 2021 16:05:27 GMT
P.S. I still remember the day, the moment, when and where I had Bought UMS. I even remember when I had removed the plastic around cause I couldn't wait till home and I had opened it and looked at the booklet in the car while my mum was driving. It was 17 years ago. I love physical copies for many reasons. I still remember the day I got mine and where I bought it as well. The store hasn't existed in years but I used to love going there. I still have the poster that was folded inside the cd case. I have so many fond memories around the release of UMS and TBDT. I even remember being on a rival Avril fan forum. We used to get into tiffs with bandaids back in the day over who had the better fan forum, etc lol. Can't remember what the site was called. I made some good friends through that forum though.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 6, 2021 14:51:51 GMT
I honestly think that Feldmann and the people she works with must be fed up with this situation. Or imagine her band who have not been able to work since the pandemic... I highly doubt anyone she works with is fed up with the situation because they know what's going on. The frustration with Avril comes from not knowing what's happening. Her communication with fans sucks. No one would be half as mad at her as they are if she would just admit there was a delay of some kind instead of just saying soon every few months. Even if she said she didn't know when the single would be out would be an improvement over what she has been doing. Seriously a lyric post every month? What is her team even doing? Why bother having a team when they just let Avril shoot herself in the foot with her shitty communication style. Even I'm getting frustrated with the lack of communication. Stop just acting like we will all just still be around after moths of soons and give us some kind of real information. It's almost like they take us for granted or really don't give a shit because they believe it will sell for nostalgia reasons. Her band are hired musicians who do other things besides work for her. They can work for other people either on stage or as studio musicians. They are not just sitting around waiting for her in order to work. Although I expect the last year has been difficult since there has been no touring.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 6, 2021 8:55:22 GMT
Oh Avril.... how could she think posting a picture from the studio would not piss off fans who have been asking for information on the release of her single...... I hope that if her music was delayed she just used the opportunity to make some more to release as a deluxe or double album..... The album will come when it comes but it would be nice to have her actually say something like "hey I wanted to release in July but it got pushed back" or something. At least then fans would know what was going on.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jul 2, 2021 15:48:45 GMT
I always took her comments to mean single or singles coming in the Summer and then the album a bit later. Most of the early comments about Summer said songs and not the album. She still has til September 21 to deliver on what she said lol. Technically she could release the album shortly after the single if she wanted. A lot of artists do and it might be a good idea since people tend to forget quickly. The time between the release of HAW the single and the album was too big of a gap. It may have sold better if they went with their original intention of releasing in November 2018. If they pushed it back because HAW didn't do as well as they hoped they certainly didn't do anything to help it sell once it was out.
Since one of her responses said she's dying to release it already it seems like maybe there is an issue with the label, and I don't mean issues like they don't like it but are working out distribution and maybe how to sell it better... I hope her management team is actually going to promote her this time. I see little glimpses of them working for her, like her TikTok, but I'm still skeptical. If Avril doesn't want to do the work, her management team could still do a hell of a lot more to promote her.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 25, 2021 16:36:08 GMT
I think she thought her single at least would be out by Summer but something happened. She never tells us anything going on behind the scenes so we don't know why or if anything has been delayed yet. It's technically just become Summer a few days ago so she still has some time to deliver on her promise but she's always so vague we don't know.
I've always been of the opinion that GL and AL were delayed by the record company who wanted singles they thought would sell. I guess you could blame Avril for it, especially for fighting for so long to keep her version of GL before finally giving in; but I often think we could have gotten more interesting records without record company interference. Most of the worst songs on AL were produced by Martin Johnson as obvious single choices and were recorded in 2013, whereas the songs produced by David Hodges earlier in 2012 were much better (at least IMO). I would be curious to hear what that record would have sounded like in 2012 when Avril first said she was finished with it.
HAW was delayed by Avril, both by her illness and her waiting to work with particular producers ( at least that's what she said anyway). Then HAW got pushed back again from 2018 to 2019 by the record company. I would guess because HAW wasn't selling as well as a single as they hoped. Then they added Niki Minaj to Dumb Blonde but they never bothered to capitalize on that, which I blame Avril for. I kinda understand it though because she wanted to put out a song she felt a better connection to (IE: IFILWD) but she could have had a decent hit with DB if they had done anything with it. The lyric video has more views than some of her videos.
I can't figure out what's going on now... If her whole record is pop-punk music which is in right now it would be stupid for the record company to delay it unless they thought it was really shit lol. If Avril is holding on to it I cant figure out what she is waiting for..... maybe we'll find out once the record is finally released.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 14, 2021 12:05:49 GMT
My dad slipped away tonight. Thank you to everyone for their prayers and their comforting words. You’ve all helped me so much. I'm so sorry for your loss. Sending you lots of love during this difficult time.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 7, 2021 11:58:11 GMT
I mean yes, but free speech gets annulated when you sing something with your own hand, freely, that's what I'm talking about. If she signed anything that later on she broke, then that woul explain a lot. And sorry, i just come from a kpop background and there contracts are VERY important xD and some of them very restricted. I know western pop works differently but you never know xD I'm not 100% sure if such a thing would be in a recording contract in the US. Usually famous people will have people working for them sign non-disclosure agreements, which means you can't discuss whatever is in the NDA without potentially getting sued. Even those can be dismissed by a judge if they feel the NDA was unreasonable or forced on someone under duress. The easiest thing for RCA to do would be to promote the record enough to make back the money they put in and maybe a little bit more, and then stop promoting it while also telling producers and such behind the scenes that Avril is a problem, thus making working more difficult for her.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 7, 2021 5:52:03 GMT
And also, I'm not sure how those contracts work...? Are you allowed to talk trash about your company?? Like lol... Sure she's got freedom of speech and can say what she wants but she doesn't have freedom from consequences and the label could choose not to promote her as much. Powerful people in the industry aren't going to want to encourage their acts to talk shit even if they don't openly do or say anything back. Just look at what Harvey Winestien did to actresses who turned him down. He ruined their careers behind the scenes by telling producers and directors they were too difficult to work with. Or you can look at how they didn't promote Kelly Clarkson's album ( can't remember the name something December I think) when she didn't do what they wanted and the record tanked.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 6, 2021 18:17:10 GMT
I kinda got the feeling that fighting with the record company over GL killed Avril's enthusiasm and work ethic a bit. She stopped seeming to care as much after that. I think she still works long hours in the studio when she's creating but I don't think she cares much about the business side anymore since it burned her pretty badly in the past. Her career could have gone a bit differently had the studio just accepted the original version or GL or if Avril hadn't fought so hard for so long only to record WTH and Smile. Also, I kind of felt like when she told everyone what happened and why GL was delayed she bit the hand that fed her so to speak. RCA barely promoted her after WTH and then she got moved to Epic later in the year. I remember an interview she did where it sounded like she had problems with RCA during the whole GL era until she was moved to Epic and how proud she was of herself for holding her head up high during the BS tour. It might be a reason why she doesn't talk about delays or any potential problems with the record label anymore. I'm sure RCA was not happy to hear her talk about how awful they were for withholding her music and stuff happened behind the scenes that further burned Avril out, though she'll never talk about it openly now. I kinda don't blame her for wanting to do whatever the f- she wants right now if for so long she worked hard and kept hitting resistance.
That being said her team should be doing much better than they are. It's really not that hard to promote someone these days. Random people get famous off tiktok dances and shit.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 6, 2021 11:02:52 GMT
Well fuck 😂, looks like Feldmann might add to Avril's essential filler lyrics of la, la la, yeah yeah yeah, na na na. TBF it is a pop punk staple Nothing's bad about it as long as on point like Everybody Hurts, it has the best "la"s to express the pain is easy. What the hell is going on with Avril working and going day off back and forth I never could stand the la's in Everybody Hurts. I think it's one of the reasons I've never been a fan of the song. The verses are so depressing and then lalalalala it's ok in the chorus..... The song in general always felt a bit disjointed to me between the lyrics in the verses/bridge and the chorus. I also can't stand it when I'm feeling depressed and someone says "oh well everybody feels this way" or "other people have it worse than you" trying to "encourage" me in some way and I certainly wouldn't say it to myself in a moment of sadness, but that's beside the point. I never really minded the yeahs, la's, or heys, in her other songs though.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 6, 2021 10:49:33 GMT
I'm curious to find out what it would be just based on sales data. Would LG be at a diamond certification if she had a label willing to pay for it or not? I'm not even sure where to go looking for that sort of thing.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 5, 2021 15:42:50 GMT
I personally can't feel too mad at Avril right now though. I had a genuinely terrifying experience last night and I have bawled while listening to her music today. My life and emotions feel so screwed up right now, which doubly sucks because I had finally gotten my anxiety in check and now I'm back to square one; but at least I have a constant comforting thing in her music. Her music and this forum have been in my life almost 20 years.... Oh no! I remember your post from a while ago where you said you were trying to be more positive and I found that so admirable so it really sucks that something unfortunate happened and dragged you down. I really hope you're already feeling better by now. Definitely lean on the music you enjoy and anything else that comforts you and is familiar.
About Avril appreciating her fans honestly I don't have much to say anymore except what I already wrote in the past or keep seeing others mention here as well. She indeed doesn't owe us anything personally but she actively tries to engage our side of the artist-fan relationship but then skips on her side of the bargain. So that seems fairly one-sided which isn't a good dynamic.
I also kind of can't believe she'd skip on this opportunity to announce the lead or even just at all capitalize on an anniversary of her debut. Sure it is not a significant one given that next year is the 20th but it still would have added some weight to whatever she has coming. Especially given her "going back to my roots" narrative. I also don't see why she didn't post it to her feed and only as a story since IMO it wouldn't really "conflict" with the new stuff. How cool would it be if her page had a slightly more significant acknowledgement of her anniversary as one post (e.g. special artwork, a picture where she wears her old outfit, recreates the cover, etc) and then the very next post is the lead single announcement and the proper start of her new era? How's that for going back to your roots?
Think, Avril.
Thanks . Yesterday I was a mess but I'm getting better. One day at a time as they say. I really thought Avril would post about the single this week . Even if it was coming out at the end of the month at least having a date would have been nice. As far as her interacting with fans goes, she was doing soooo much better earlier this year and then it just died off again. Honestly she doesn't have to even talk about music with us all the time, just responding to things fans say on her instagram with comments like "aww thanks for saying I'm so pretty" or "I love cooking Italian" would be an improvement over the silence. Some fans on twitter were quite excited for her instagram story where she was talking to us about her hair because she just doesn't talk to us like that. They were wanting her to do more videos of her talking to camera. Even small videos like that of her talking about mundane things are her acknowledging we exist and want to hear from her. That's a start and she should continue to capitalise on it. If she did that more, people wouldn't find it forced when she starts to interact with us when she has new music to sell. She should release LG, UMS, and TBDT themed merch. If she did that people would line up to buy it right now since people are feeling really nostalgic for her her older albums. I don't know why her team hasn't thought of it honestly. They don't need to wait for an anniversary to put out a shirt with the LG star. People were loving her jumpsuit from her Kimmel performance. She could make so much money if she capitalised on certain things right now.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 4, 2021 15:50:55 GMT
Her post with the beers is honestly so so tone-deaf. She has to know people are fed up with the silence and teasing yet not only does she (again) not touch on the music at all but even flaunts the not working part after work she's not showing. It's like she's taunting her fans. Bizarre.
It could be that she is actually working and knows she's working and is somewhat resentful of the fans who think she's not. Obviously she can't come out and say that without making herself look bad so she trolls us with the "hard day's work" post. It's honestly kind of funny in a sad way. I personally can't feel too mad at Avril right now though. I had a genuinely terrifying experience last night and I have bawled while listening to her music today. My life and emotions feel so screwed up right now, which doubly sucks because I had finally gotten my anxiety in check and now I'm back to square one; but at least I have a constant comforting thing in her music. Her music and this forum have been in my life almost 20 years....
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