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Post by paperbackwriter on May 25, 2019 22:37:16 GMT
Judging by what the guy said it doesn't sound like she spent the whole time standing against a wall away from them. All we saw was a few seconds of them in the room together. We don't know how long they spent together and the video was focused more on him than Avril, hence why she's hardly in it. He seemed to be happy with the whole thing and that's all that matters.
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 23, 2019 21:14:19 GMT
You are talking like the main issue is lack of promo. The main issue is lack of communication with her fans and there’s no excuse for that. Literally we know nothing directly from her, when she uses social media is for useless stuff or annoying videos. She is completely loosing her own fan base and that’s just because the way she is and she treats fans. At this point I’m really glad about what’s happening, maybe when she will have literally no one supporting her anymore in 5/10 years, she will realize the mistakes she is doing. Completely agree. Anyone who thinks she genuinely cares about her fans is kidding themselves. I wouldn't say that. She's not a communicative person but that doesn't mean she doesn't care at all. I'm the same way. I have to force myself to communicate with my family and friends who I can't talk to face to face. It's not that I don't love them, I'm just not a communicative person through social media or the phone. It is what it is. I also know there are plenty of bands and actors who don't have social media at all or talk to their fans online.
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 10, 2019 13:54:33 GMT
You know from 2 minutes 28 on Souvenir what is she saying the background of the chorus? I think she is repeating "really wanna meet" and few times before ending with "really wanna meet you." That's all I can make out.
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 9, 2019 20:49:58 GMT
I'm a little shocked that BMG didn't throw some money on a video for this. Don't the record companies and the artist usually pay for music videos? They didn't have to splash out for big celebs but they could have come up with something good. The only song that could have been a modest hit from this album and they royally screwed it up. It's easy to remember and catchy. I've even heard my husband and my dad sing it lol. Whoever messed up the video really screwed her over.
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 4, 2019 3:42:37 GMT
Getting the IFILWTD first doesn't mean DB is cancelled. Maybe they filmed part of the video but are still waiting for Nicki to do her part. Or maybe they feel they could use it to sell a tour later this year. Or maybe Avril feels like promoting songs that are more representative of the album. Who knows. I guess we'll find out sooner or later.
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 2, 2019 23:10:11 GMT
People are so stupid. They read the title of the song and just assume its a song worshipping satan . If they actually listened to or read the lyrics they would seen she is asking God for help getting rid of the metaphorical devil in her life. FFS I can't with stupid people any more.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 28, 2019 13:54:15 GMT
We also have an inside joke now where we say “bananas” like she does in the song lol My husband and I do the same thing lol! Whenever we're in the car together and Goddess comes on I crank it up loud when it gets to bananas lol. I've also heard my husband singing DB to our corgi. He'll say "I ain't no dumb corgi" lol. I hope she doesn't just do a greatest hits tour again. I'm sure she could find a good balance of new and old songs if she really thought about it.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 15, 2019 11:21:50 GMT
TBDT and Smile were not great videos because the record company put no money into them.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 6, 2019 19:50:56 GMT
I'm finding this amusing. Shit all over Avril but God forbid you talk ill of Taylor Swift. The truth of the matter is we may think we know how Taylor got her deal or how she writes her songs, etc, but we will never know the whole truth and that 3% stake in Big Machine will always leave room for people for question. So it is perfectly acceptable to say it "seems." I would never say that Taylor isn't talented but I also think she has a far better team of people behind her than say Avril does. But then Taylor is in the pinnacle of her career right now, things may change at some point.
The thing with Avril is that people bought what her team was selling in the beginning about her being this amazing young singer songwriter but until HAW she never really showed it past LG, which had the Matrix heavily involved.
I honestly don't understand what is supposed to be missing in this album that makes is "not Avril." Apart from TMIO and Crush the whole album sounds like her old stuff. HAW, Warrior, and IWIM are her typical ballads that she's been putting out sing TBDT. Birdie and IFILWTD could be from UMS if they had louder guitar. DB sounds like Girlfriend part two. Souvenir and BW sound like they could be on LG. The only major difference is the lack of electric guitar and the better songwriting. If it had more electric guitar I doubt people would be saying so much about it missing something.
I totally understand feeling disappointment over promo and not liking the album but the constant negativity here towards Avril is getting really depressing. We're even on her constantly talking shit over her silly jokes on instagram. On the same token there is half an Avril thread praising Taylor Swift like she's a pop goddess. I know she interacts with fans better than Avril does and she's a better songwriter, I'm not blind, but I feel like some people are looking at Taylor with the same rose coloured glasses that I could be accused of looking at Avril with. If Avril is not giving you what you feel you need from an artist and you get that somewhere else then by all means go listen to whatever makes you happy. If all you can say about Avril right now is negative then maybe it's time to move on at least for a little bit.
People say not to use lyme as an excuse for her any more but I feel like it completely changed her perspective on her career. She realised what was really important in life and it's not fame, it's not the people who fawn over you on instagram one minute then shit on your the next; it's your family and friends and your health. I believe that Avril does appreciate us or else she wouldn't bother traveling overseas to do promo or using social media at all. Those snapchats you all hate are for your entertainment, whether you like them or not. It may not be what you want from Avril, but she seems to be trying after all these years of almost no updates. But it doesn't seem to matter what she does, some people will never be happy because the rose coloured glasses broke and they apparently can't be repaired. That's ok! Blink 182's music helped me through so much as a teen but I'm just not as big of a fan of theirs any more. I'll always appreciate what their music did for me but I moved on and I don't pay as much attention to them any more. It keeps me from feeling bitter over any changes they've made over the years.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 6, 2019 15:15:34 GMT
They don't bother me. It's just her being silly with her friends. We all have silly little jokes we do that make our friends laugh that other people would think are stupid. I don't take it seriously at all or think it's how she behaves 99% of the time. I feel like some people are taking them a bit too seriously.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 6, 2019 13:25:47 GMT
I think a big reason why Avril rarely changes things up with her songs is because she's not that gifted musically. She knows the basics and I'd say she's quite capable as a songwriter but she's still just ok at playing guitar and piano. She probably doesn't know how to change it up other than playing acoustic. She has a very talented band though and a musical director in Steve. They should make more suggestions about how they can change up songs when performing live.
I know she changed up LG for TBDTour but she had a stage director for that show who helped stage everything up for her. He could have suggested it.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 4, 2019 0:23:36 GMT
You could be right but at the same time... seriously? Avril has been in the music industry for over 15 years. I'm not expecting her to know how to handle promo herself and be able to market herself, but she has been in the business and around businesspeople for years, she had to have learned a few things. She has no problem knowing how to market Abbey Dawn or another artist's song when she wants to, but her own music, it's like she suddenly plays dumb. Maybe she is just uncomfortable with the idea of self-promotion, as though she feels like it is bragging or rude. I can see that. She was brought up in an old-school way like that. And yes, she's used to having people do things for her. But I really don't think she is as clueless as you are making it sound like she is. If she was really that clueless, she wouldn't have lasted 15 years in the business. She knows how all this works more than I think her fans think she does. I don't think she's completely incompetent but she appears to just be getting the hang of social media. She did say in a recent one that she just found the hands free button lol. Her trip to UAE and Japan are the most she's posted on social media probably ever. That was something that fans had been wanting for a long time. A way to feel like they were invited into her world. Now they've moved to something else to complain about. I wouldn't really consider abbey dawn posts as proof she has great business acumen. Those are most likely posted by her team and even those were few and far between once the new collection dropped. She hasn't done any real decent promo for it since 2012. If we look at the available evidence Avril doesn't seem to be to tech savvy and is not taking the best advantage of social media because of it. Someone should be helping her along with this stuff but they don't appear to be.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 3, 2019 23:49:40 GMT
I was going to post this in the HAW thread but it was locked while I was writing it.
Sure Avril could be more energetic on stage but as far as song choices for the Japan trip, we don't know what she was asked to do by promoters. Sure the acoustic set was touted as a "fan event" but that doesn't mean she got to choose what what to do for it. For all of her trips to Japan where she has done two performances she has sang the single and an old hit. Besides this Japan promo and the Honda stage Avril has not done any promo where she has been asked to play multiple songs. It's not like 2004 where her management set up a mall tour for her to showcase her new stuff and she hasn't done a sessions at Aol or those shows in Europe where she would play multiple songs from the album. Sure she could do a facebook live acoustic set but I honestly don't think she thinks of these type of things. She's still in the old school promo mindset. And using her instagram videos as proof she has energy is ridiculous. Those are a few seconds long and she could be acting out in what she assumes is an entertaining way for the camera. Why she doesn't always do that on stage I don't know, but short videos aren't always an indicator of the real truth.
From what I have seen of her performing HAW, she is so into it. She is very passionate about music again and it shows. I don't understand how not playing any other new songs somehow negates that. I don't see how not performing certain songs means she's lazy and dispassionate. I think she just doesn't understand what the fans want from her. Honestly all the negativity on the internet probably seems like a bunch of angry haters when she sees her fans in person and everyone is loving on her. No one has said to her these songs mean so much to me can you perform them live? No one has even asked if she will perform new songs or if all we will get is the single and an old hit for non fans.
What Avril needs is a good management team again. Someone to tell her what to do in a sense because she doesn't appear to know herself anymore with how much the industry has changed. She had a very good team behind her from Let Go to TBDT and they pushed her to do more. Hasn't anyone noticed that after Avril left Nettwerk things started to go downhill in terms of quality promo? She does all kinds of interviews from home. If her manager was like we need to do an acoustic live from the house and play the new songs for fans would she really say no? She would probably be excited. But no one in her life appears to be mentioning these things to her. In the last facebook live she did a year ago her manger told her she could do whatever she wants. That's not working, so give her some ideas!
I'll still be a fan. I don't really care what she performs. Yeah it's nice to see new songs performed but I love her music and I am ok with that. I like a lot of bands that do barely any promo at all for their albums and I don't watch them live. I just enjoy their music.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Apr 2, 2019 17:34:48 GMT
Every time she goes on those Japanese shows where she plays two songs, she plays her recent single and an old hit. That's why she played Sk8er Boi.
I wonder what's up next. Is Niki still on tour? If she's not they may do a DB video and finally promote it.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 30, 2019 14:02:35 GMT
I guess they found it disrespectful for some reason..... Was it filmed at Music Station maybe? When you go to another country you'll get into misunderstandings. I doubt she really got in trouble. They probably just asked her to delete it.
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