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Post by Mohican. on May 9, 2019 15:09:33 GMT
You know, I actually agree on DB being her best upbeat song she‘s come up with (so far). But she‘s done so many upbeat songs by now, all being average singles (except for GF obviously), that I am just so tired of listening to that kind of songs by her. IF she had released DB a couple years ago, I am sure I would have liked it far more. But compared to all she‘s released so far, it‘s not refreshing at all to me. I feel like after Girlfriend blew out on the music chart she (or her management, probably) needed to make at least ONE song on her record that is up-beat like Girlfriend does, or has the same attitude, I think. I think so, too. I also think that‘s why they all failed. They were/are just trying too hard to copy that in hope to throw up another world-wide hit.
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Post by Mohican. on May 9, 2019 9:43:46 GMT
DB is the most awesome upbeat song she ever made I think. Never thought I would say that back in the day we saw the tracklisting for the first time! I always turn Up the volume while DB is Up and sing really loud with it (in my car tho) 😂 You know, I actually agree on DB being her best upbeat song she‘s come up with (so far). But she‘s done so many upbeat songs by now, all being average singles (except for GF obviously), that I am just so tired of listening to that kind of songs by her. IF she had released DB a couple years ago, I am sure I would have liked it far more. But compared to all she‘s released so far, it‘s not refreshing to me at all.
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Post by Mohican. on May 8, 2019 9:28:01 GMT
Would the casual viewer even know any of that stuff is Abbey Dawn though? Or care? Nobody's care about that except Avril. Well, when she launched her first collection fans were actually excited and bought a lotta stuff. But after that people stopped caring. I totally agree, no one cares today and I really hate how she promotes her own crappy fashion with every chance she gets. Sorry for calling it crappy, but I don‘t like her stuff at all.
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Post by Mohican. on May 6, 2019 9:57:46 GMT
I am generally glad Dave‘s rejoined the band. I‘ve always liked what he added to their sound and was in bitter disappointment when he left the band and Underclass Hero was released after the masterpiece called Chuck. I was really excited when I found out Dave‘s back with the band but when I listened to 13 Voices I was actually a bit bummed. The songs were just too similar, no (or not enough) variation, just aggression and rapidy. Even the guitar solos by Dave, which I usually seek for in any Sum 41 song, didn‘t caught me.
Now listening to Out For Blood I get my hopes up again. This song is full of musical surprises. The verses are complex and ever-changing, the chorus speaks in Sum 41‘s common language. The bridge and ending is also pretty good. I like it a lot. I hope their new album will continue in this style and will hold more surprises than 13 Voices. It would be sad to find that same lack of variation in Order To Decline, cause the first single is a real win.
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Post by Mohican. on May 6, 2019 8:52:20 GMT
Wow, 17 years already? That‘s real crazyness!
I was still quite young in 2002 and like others have already said, we didn‘t have the internet back then. We didn’t even have a laptop, that could do more than creating documents and putting them on floppy-disks. Haha, fun times actually now that I think back. I discovered Avril in 2002, though. I remember how. I walked by my stepsisters room and there was MTV on TV and they were playing Complicated. I loved it. But back then it wasn‘t easy to find as much information about artists as it is nowadays. I didn‘t catch the caption and for a while I only new the song by hearing, without any information on the title or the artist. Some time later when I was listening to the radio the song was played again and found out it was called Complicated. I recorded it on tape and with that the fandom began. I got Let Go some time later and listened to that album on repeat again and again and again.
I don‘t know for sure, but I think we got internet in 2004? Maybe 2005? It took me a while to get used to the idea of communicating on and via the internet so I joined the original BA forum in 2006 or 2007.
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Post by Mohican. on May 6, 2019 8:26:50 GMT
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Post by Mohican. on May 6, 2019 8:25:46 GMT
There’s no way to know that the Twitter DM screenshot is legitimate. The only part of it that matches Avril’s account is the profile picture. The screenshot shows no other information to prove it’s real. And even so, it’s be really easy to fake. I’m not saying it is fake and I’m not sure why someone would go through the trouble of creating false rumors. My point is that Avril has not publicly told us that we are getting a IFILWTD video not that the DB video was cancelled. Avril follows the account that shared the caption. It’s real, let’s be honest. She didn’t say anything about DB being canceled but why would she released Devil first when it hasn’t been shot? It’s obvious DB was canceled In this era nothing is obvious.
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Post by Mohican. on May 4, 2019 16:20:37 GMT
I‘m sorry some of you had to go through all that BS spread by that member. Since things got very out of hand we banned the user and due to a lot of reports decided to delete their posts in order to keep this thread running respectfully and in common sense. Because of that some of your posts may have been deleted, too (when quoting that specific member). I hope we can return to business again.
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Post by Mohican. on May 4, 2019 10:31:10 GMT
But how could TMIO or DB be failed attempts when they never received Single treatment. DB has not failed, her team failed to the song. It could have charted well with some single treatment. You provide the answer to your question in your post already. They did fail, cause they never received real single treatment. Now I don‘t see a lot of reason in trying to right the wrongs. I personally think it‘s too late now to make DB a successful single, that should have gone hand in hand with the album release.
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Post by Mohican. on May 4, 2019 8:44:16 GMT
Cancelling a DB video last minute? Okay, I am shocked but not surprised. If this is really true, it makes much more sense she decided to perform IFILWTD instead of DB of course. And something must have happened causing this change. I think it was not decided because of a dispute between Avril and Nicki, though. To me DB is kinda like what WTH was supposed to be on GL: something catchy chart-hitting being added to the album without fitting the rest of the content. And WTH failed big time.
I could imagine that Avril maybe never wanted that track on the album, but was over-voted at some point. Being in a contract always means to be tied. With her statements on twitter I could imagine that „grabbing the horns“ meant something more than just deciding to play IFILWTD instead of DB. It could have meant that she actually went against the whole idea of releasing DB as a single with a decent music video. Or she never wanted to release a video of the single weeks after it was supposed to be released due to the same reasons we all state. Maybe she‘s aware of all this mess and stated out that it‘s more reasonable to go further releasing a new proper single instead of holding on to a failed attempt.
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Post by Mohican. on May 3, 2019 8:58:42 GMT
Did you notice she really enjoyed singing it? Yes, exactly this. It was not a great performance, but this was the best performance for me of this era by far, simply because she felt it and you could see for a change that she indeed liked to perform this song. She was having fun performing. So whatever the reason was they changed it, I am glad Avril‘s got the chance to show she still enjoys singing live. And this also shows how awesome she can be, if she really does what she wants. She should keep that gutt and follow her will. And yeah obviously I was glad she ditched DB, don‘t like it, shouldn‘t even be on that album and imo it needs no promotion, cause it will only show the public a naive teen side of Avril we‘ve been seeing for years. IFILWTD is something new, something unexpected and I am certain she can go further with this rather than with DB.
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Post by Mohican. on May 1, 2019 9:38:17 GMT
Congratulations!
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Post by Mohican. on Apr 26, 2019 0:49:08 GMT
I‘d just really like her to perform. Thinking back to the days when she delivered real concerts, I find it absurdly weird to not have any live versions except for DB and HAW.
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Post by Mohican. on Apr 15, 2019 22:01:58 GMT
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Post by Mohican. on Apr 15, 2019 21:48:01 GMT
I think I liked LG better the UMS for some reason, maybe the variety of types of songs? Anyway, one of my favorite all time tracks is Forgotten. I always like the hard edged guitars when we do get them on an Avril album. I actually miss just having a rock style to her albums although HAW is great in it's own right. Nobody's Home, also excellent. The vocals on these two seem to work well with the music behind them. I think Together may have been the only one I wasn't as thrilled with on the entire album. Forgotten has also always been a favorite of mine.... aaaalong with Together. It's interesting that you don't like Together that much. For me it's like these two belong together and when Avril performed both on the piano on her Bonez tour, it only made it more obvious to me. I give you your freedome of taste of course, but for me it's not in any way clear why you aren't thrilled by Together.
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