Avril & Ryan/Chad Speculation Thread

Why do we need to dig our noses into stuff that shouldn't concern us at all?
I don't get why people need to know everything about everything.
I know things like that have been said before and I am only one of the less,
but if I were Avril, I wouldn't want people discussing my love life or private
life in general.
It just feels like you're constantly on the watch and everything you do get's
assessed. She's allowed to make mistakes or meet up with people fans do
or do not like without explaining herself.
Whatever she's doing and who ever she is dating, I just wish her the best.

Naming something intentionally bad way, doesn't turn that in a bad thing automatically.
Who has decided what should concern somebody and what shouldn't? Isn't it the somebody's very own right to decide on?

You may call it "digging nose into", may call it digging nose into something else, but it's generally called curiosity (or UNindifference, if to be more specific to the matter of the discussion). It's naturally characteristic for a human being. And by the way it's an engine of the progress. Of our freaking civilization. Of curiosity, people did all good things. Here, people are curious about the person, they care about. Logically.

Yeah, it should be admitted, in addition to the mentioned curiosity, tending to saying nonsensical banalities isn't that rare among people as well. It's like mentioned lately hatred on Nickelback - noone knows why this is the case - nickelback isn't Trump and even not the worst artists ever existed, still there is this weird trend. Parroting, i believe, is the answer - people often repeat someone else has emitted, not thinking if that is at least meaningful or appropriate for the context thing. The same way they parrot not only phrases, views as well. they are taking on those not thinking much. Yet another human charactestics (and not the best one).

If I were jackster31, I would want avril reunited with chad, and were walking to ryan's instagram emitting there my childish obsession. But I am not. And you aren't. So you even can't say for sure whether she likes this or not. But the main thing is that her attitude to this matters a little. Because it's just what she needs to be adapted for (used to), as it is an inevitable consequense of being famous and thus - public.
Attracting so many people's attention to herself has such consequences. Being a celebrity means making you and your privacy to became a point of interest for a very big number of people. Want you or not, you become a part of many people lives. Neither you nor them are to blame for it. You wanted to be a singer, it would be stupid to not let this evolve, this is ultimately your life, what you want fill it with. And they not guilty that you are such an adorable being that they can't stop thinking of you.
Thinking of this that way, I am getting pissed of by such counter-views I am commenting on now. Especially because they have a very unpleasant property - they are as meaningless as they look a "right thing". Really, "I am such a good one - not want to dig my nose into thing I should not dig". So right sounding. and so lame in essence. Then you should dig your nose only into your own body and mind. only those are belonging to you, nothing else. For example if you have a brother and he was on a first date last night and you are interested how it was (and are thinking about it), you definitely are wrong and digging your nose where shouldn't. And so anything except of your own body and mind. Sounds stupid? That's your view.

See above, this "problem" goes on pair with being famous. Otherwise you are not famous - if you are not "constantly on watch" - you aren't famous. That's why she lives in a gated community - she protects herself from the redundant attention which definitely would interfere with a normal life, but on the other hand people who really like her, cannot not have interest in her, because if they "don't care", they aren't her fans, she doesn't have fans and is not famous. consequently doesn't need to live in a gated community, is not recognizable on the street and isn't "constantly on watch".

That was said like there was someone who reject her in such a right. Or demand her explain something. You grabbed this to solidify your disagree, it was a nice try, but the problem for it is - noone has encroached on those rights.

In fact it sounds strange from the people that "don't care" that much. If you really don't care about her life, it's hard to believe you really care about "her best"? Do you? With being "not caring", this "wish the best" thing sounds like a blatantly empty formality. You know - I want all be happy, I want the Sun will shine for everyone and peace be on the whole planet. No, - on the whole galactic cluster of Virgo constellation. But then we recall, you "don't care" of this and that, you don't care all the way and all the time. Someone for whom she is close in a way of fan-artist relation, or whatever else way he/she has related avril to (it's pretty personal thing I believe), it would look real, he/she doesn't hide his/her interest in avril and her life. But those, constantly not caring, their wishing looks not very convincing, or "not caring" does so.

She's a pop star, and her fans are curious. A common phenomenon. If she was a "normal" person speculating is a violation of privacy, but she is a celebrity. And she doesn't really hide the fact that she is with Ryan Cabrera.

I didn't say, that being interested in avril and her life is progress I said it is the same reason that causes both - human curiosity. Although, for example Avril with her songs and her all beauty and positiveness, might inspire some scientist (ugly and alone) to do his work more intensively and that indirectly would facilitate progress thing - Mars traveling or development of artificial intelligence, or nuclear fusion.

It's not about good it is or bad, it's about how it works. The same question may be asked about what good if you are thinking about anybody? We are built this way, our brains work this way there is nothing to do with this. It's irreducible. You should limit your "involvement" in others lives, even for the closest people, to not turn your "care" into annoying thing for the subject, but it should be admitted, there is no reasonable limit defining rule for everybody.
People speculating on forums is a direct consequence of avril non-reachability for them. They love her but can not reach her (for her happiness ). So, they have nothing to do else than group themselves and speculating. Still It's a way to give their feelings out and to "reach" her somehow.
It would not be a novelty if it would be said that relations between "stars" and their "fans" have much in common with other people relations, namely every fan makes their subject of adoration a part of their life. Less or more. Be it bad it or good. And there is no acceptable for everybody limit where you should stop. Everyone decides personally on that. (according to one's moral settings and state of psychics).

Well, we all don't like something, it doesn't mean it should be stopped. Not all is in our power to change. Her life is her and her business, and my thoughts about her is my life and my business. Those don't interfere at all, and I'm sure she doesn't read those "speculations". She's not that kind of person. I don't believe she can be sitting hours and read what fans write about her. She occasionally looks at the "media". Like we saw with Nickelback defending!!! And that's all.
But your argument is applied to not only her private life discussion. See, you may say it's a private life I shouldn't dig my nose into it, it's "so obvious" and avril doesn't want this, ok, but speculating about her songs is ok, right? it's the right thing. It is the thing fans should dig their noses into. So, you came up and say - "we all know avril song writing skills have been worsened with a time... Look what her song were in this respect at the beginning and what they are in the last album..."
You did it right. You didn't dig your nose where you shouldn't. All is OK. Is it?
How you think she would feel reading this? If she read. So maybe only reposting "buy Abbey Dawn" and "buy Nick Carter ft Avril Lavigne song Get over it" things are right things to do?

I don't think it's sad that she wants to hide it (if they are dating). Imagine always having your private life talked about by strangers and media. The entire world analyzes her every move. It's probably nice to keep something sacred and private for once in her life. And especially if it's just a fun fling or something and she probably knows it's not going to last, why make a big show about it? Or maybe they aren't dating at all and are just "roommates" or hanging out together and she doesn't want people thinking they are dating (well, guess that didn't work out so well ) Or who knows, maybe it's Ryan that wishes to keep it private. A lot of famous people keep their relationships private. 

I don't think the pictures with Chad looked awkward. Some of them did, but I do think they were genuinely in love at the time, even though I always found their relationship kind of strange, but I think at least at the time they loved each other very much and still care about each other a lot, in a platonic way. 

oh well, "sushi for two"... I can't see video, but it looks like jackster31 may celebrate a win. "chavril returned and reunited ryan cabrera" again.

It's called: for those, especially gifted, right?

Don't hurry up, she only like month ago had already "reunited with chad". That "ring" and 14 carat present.  It's too often (even for avril), most probably, they are working together for some new music for her. And that's not what I am very enthusiastic about. Not that I am a hater of Nickelback, no, I am indifferent, but the direction avril's music has been directed in with collaboration with kroeger (well, hello kitty, sipping on sunshine) is not the best of avril, not what I love in her music.