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Post by Becky on May 28, 2015 20:25:57 GMT
I quite like it and I think it suits her, but I personally think it's a bad idea for a tattoo but regardless of what anyone thinks, it's a badly done tattoo and a bad cover up (obviously). I also don't get why it goes over the pink star a little bit? It looks like it's just been slapped on. But hey if she likes it.
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Post by Janne on May 28, 2015 20:52:27 GMT
The crossbones tattoo was one of my favourite tatoos of her, it looked so great. I can't understand why she would put a cupcake over it. Okay, if you don't like it anymore or something and you like a cupcake better eh I guess that's a possible tought, but why not do it properly from the first time lolo, now both tatoos look like shit
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 6:43:02 GMT
Honestly, she just needed to be a little crazy. ...Okay sorry about that. I never liked any of her tattoos in the first place, but I guess it IS possible to make a bad thing even worse. Yes yes, it's her skin blah blah and all that jazz, but the observer reserves the right to have an opinion. I think it looks fucking awful.
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Post by jackster31 on May 29, 2015 14:31:25 GMT
I feel everyone's entitled to voice an opinion on Avril's behavior, her look and whatever else.....that's what we do...all fucking day...we judge, we bitch, we rejoice, we cry, we laugh and so forth...that's ok...she's a public figure and it's not like we call her up and hate all over her (as if).... She won't even read it. Most of us, I feel, do it in harmless fun, disgust (jk), interest and discussion. Speaking for myself I certainly don't voice my opinion with any bad intention or wanting to hurt her. Her choices aren't always necessarily the ones I would make, but I'm still her fan and on the whole I don't find that much to bitch about her. She's very unique and opinionated and yes she's been very sick the last few months. I'm glad she's feeling better and hopefully she'll make some sort of appearance soon (apart from posting IG images) so we can see and "judge" for ourselves how she's really doing...It's good to know that she has good friends she can trust to take care of her, when her immediate family can't for whatever reason. We all need that sometime. She's always been very loyal and honest. Anyway perhaps the bracelets ( ) are a present from Caryn; a woman quite a bit older than Avril, who also seems into these type of colorful and yes childish things...Go figure....sigh...it is what it is... Keep in mind that regardless what anyone on here (or real haters on other social media) says about her, she'll continue to do her thing, live her life and keep us (well me at least) interested enough to check in with the forum and social media once in a while; but most importantly support her in her creative and career endeavors....
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2015 18:13:51 GMT
It's not that people have opinions about her- obviously we all have differing opinions about what we like and don't like from her. But it's the way a lot of fans overreact about it sometimes that just has begun to annoy me. You'd think from the way some fans react that she's like some evil person or something simply because she likes a cartoon or sometimes likes to dye her hair a weird color. And considering what she has been through, I just find it conpletely ridiculous why people would choose to focus on something like that and go back to finding things to complain about her instead of just being happy she's using social media more and is getting healthy again. Sometimes this fanbass just acts so negative about everything and has to always find the negative in every situation. It gets old and tiring after awhile, just seeing people be negative all the time or complaining about such petty stuff. It's to the point that it's like it actually bothers some people that she likes HK or wants a cupcake tattoo. You don't like it, fine, but the way some people react about it it's like it actually bothers them or they expect her to change just to suit their idea of what she should be like. It just gets so stupid and annoying after awhile.
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Post by In Wonderland on May 29, 2015 19:50:47 GMT
It's not that people have opinions about her- obviously we all have differing opinions about what we like and don't like from her. But it's the way a lot of fans overreact about it sometimes that just has begun to annoy me. You'd think from the way some fans react that she's like some evil person or something simply because she likes a cartoon or sometimes likes to dye her hair a weird color. And considering what she has been through, I just find it conpletely ridiculous why people would choose to focus on something like that and go back to finding things to complain about her instead of just being happy she's using social media more and is getting healthy again. Sometimes this fanbass just acts so negative about everything and has to always find the negative in every situation. It gets old and tiring after awhile, just seeing people be negative all the time or complaining about such petty stuff. It's to the point that it's like it actually bothers some people that she likes HK or wants a cupcake tattoo. You don't like it, fine, but the way some people react about it it's like it actually bothers them or they expect her to change just to suit their idea of what she should be like. It just gets so stupid and annoying after awhile. I think everyone here that posts, respect Avril and her decisions. After all we are FANS of her. I shall be completely honest, i started the cupcake thing again not to make a big fuss of negativity, it pooped up in my head there and then. But without any negative or neutral posts, this forum wouldn't be online. With only positive coments it would sound boring. But then again I believe we shall not be rude/mean, but saying i don't like the color of her hair is not nice but acceptable. Saying something about her geting married is the worst or going out in Miami while being sick she is a hypocrite or something like that.. those coments we should leave with ourselves.
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Post by Janne on May 29, 2015 19:58:14 GMT
I think most fans who're here don't really overreact (fans on social media is another story). I think everyone is just giving his/her opinion about things, as that's part of why we're here - right ? - without expecting Avril to change it or whatever. We can fangirl about her here, but we can critisise here as well (as long as you indeed, don't overreact). There's nothing wrong with saying you don't like a certain thing. Sure, she's been very ill and been through a lot lately and it's great that she's using social media more; but does that mean we have to be blind about the rest ? It's true that we sometimes pick on the smallest things, but there's just not much more to talk about at the moment right
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:12:11 GMT
I think most fans who're here don't really overreact (fans on social media is another story). I think everyone is just giving his/her opinion about things, as that's part of why we're here - right ? - without expecting Avril to change it or whatever. We can fangirl about her here, but we can critisise here as well (as long as you indeed, don't overreact). There's nothing wrong with saying you don't like a certain thing. Sure, she's been very ill and been through a lot lately and it's great that she's using social media more; but does that mean we have to be blind about the rest ? It's true that we sometimes pick on the smallest things, but there's just not much more to talk about at the moment right Exactly, am sure if there was loads of stuff to talk about on here, we wouldn't pick up on the small, rather insignificant things about Avril. If none of us generated discussion by posting something (perhaps negative) then the site would become even more lifeless than it already is. If everything we discussed on here was delightfully positive; it would become (I believe) rather bland and boring.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2015 20:32:57 GMT
The thing is, I've personally seen other fan bases that don't really do that. For example, I'm a member of another website called IdolForums.com which is a site for TV shows like American Idol, The Voice, etc. and there are "fan threads" for the different contestants. According to the rules on that site, only positive comments are allowed in the fan threads and negative opinions must go in the Unpopular Opinion Thread. If you guys think what I said is bad, you'll never want to visit that site. The slightest little criticism of any artist there is deleted or the fans attack the person who wrote it. One girl said that this singer was wearing too much makeup, to the point it didn't look like herself, and she was attacked by other fans just for saying that, which I said I thought was really stupid and that people should be entitled to give their opinions, as long as they aren't cruel or mean about it, and then people just got mad at me for saying that and that her fans are allowed to defend her in her own fan thread. At times I've said some things myself like "I don't like this performance" or whatever and people there got mad over it. Over there they act like you must be up the person's ass 24/7 or that you must love and praise everything they do or else you aren't a fan, or at least you should keep the comments positive only. And that is something that I've always liked about Bandaids is that people can express opinions without anyone getting angry over it and that we don't act like little tweens with our heads up Avril's ass all the time and think her shit doesn't stink. I totally get that and I totally get it if people want to say they don't like Avril's new hairstyle or her choice in tattoos or whatever. I myself am not a fan of that half shaved head thing she's fond of.
My issue is that it's how some people react over it. I remember the time on Instagram she posted a pic of a ring Chad had given her for her anniversary and eventually she took it down because she got so much shit for it. People actually told her since she's so rich she should be donating all of her money to charity instead of spending it on fancy rings. FANS, actually telling Avril, who has her own freaking charity, that she needs to donate her money to charity, as though she were so evil for her husband buying her something special for their anniversary. Or those people who tell her that now that she's 30, she needs to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and do a certain kind of music. Of course we all have our own preferences and ideas about what kind of music we'd like to hear from her and a new image and all of that, but some people really take it too seriously and act like if she doesn't do what they want, then they won't be a fan anymore. Like OMG SHE BETTER NEVER DO A HELLO KITTY SONG EVER AGAIN!!!!!! Like, basically they think she should conform to whatever their idea is of "mature." I just find it ironic that in the beginning, everyone loved Avril because she wasn't afraid of being different and being herself. But as soon as she acts or dresses in a way people don't like, they stop liking her (well some people do, anyway). I mean, it's definitely true. TBDT era was proof of that.
Like I said, my frustration isn't with the fact people have opinions about her or that they shouldn't be entitled to express them. But sometimes it seems like that is all the fans here choose to focus on or it just feels like beating a dead horse. I mean, all of the last era it was nothing but complaints. And yes, there were a lot of issues with the AL era, a lot of which wasn't even Avril's fault and there wasn't much to be happy about with the way that era went, but I also think it's just very unhealthy to always be negative. I mean, the AL era and album certainly isn't my favorite. But when I saw her on tour last year it was one of the best nights of my entire life. She made me so incredibly happy, it was sort of at that point I could never bring myself to be really harsh about her ever again. It doesn't mean I won't express dislike for something she's done once in awhile, but I'm trying to do that less. I'm trying to be more understanding and less judgmental about other people. I mean, when she was giving underwhelming performances onstage a lot of us thought she just didn't care about music anymore. Little did we know she was severely ill. Everyone thought she didn't care about her fans regarding the meet and greet, turns out there were some security issues the last time she was there and they did it to protect her. Sometimes we just don't know what someone is going through, or we don't know the whole story about something, and so I try to be more understanding/forgiving of things and less judgmental. Because for me, it's just a healthier thing to do than be negative all the time.
I'm sure that a lot of us, when we come here, we like to see what's new with Avril, not to read the thousandth argument that TBDT era ruined her career, or how Epic ruined her career, etc. I'm sure a lot of us have a lot of shit and stress going on in our daily lives and that we come here for a bit of a break, not to rehash old stuff or beat a dead horse about stuff we've gone over hundreds of times. I'm just saying, after awhile it gets repetitive. At least, it only seems to really occur when there isn't a lot going on with Avril. I mean, when she revealed she was sick, that really brought us all together and we showed her so much support, like we forgot about all the AL era stuff and just wished her well and showed her that we were here for her. It was nice to see after the way the AL era had gone. And it doesn't just happen with Avril fans, I've also seen tensions get high within other fan bases too, when that artist is on a break and there isn't much to discuss. Maybe it's just a product of boredom, I guess. But I do know a lot of fans stopped coming to Bandaids sometimes because it got too negative.
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Post by In Wonderland on May 29, 2015 20:37:28 GMT
BogoGog24 but have any of those discussions happen on the temp forum? Or back at good ol' bandaids?
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Post by Janne on May 29, 2015 20:52:49 GMT
The thing is, I've personally seen other fan bases that don't really do that. For example, I'm a member of another website called IdolForums.com which is a site for TV shows like American Idol, The Voice, etc. and there are "fan threads" for the different contestants. According to the rules on that site, only positive comments are allowed in the fan threads and negative opinions must go in the Unpopular Opinion Thread. If you guys think what I said is bad, you'll never want to visit that site. The slightest little criticism of any artist there is deleted or the fans attack the person who wrote it. One girl said that this singer was wearing too much makeup, to the point it didn't look like herself, and she was attacked by other fans just for saying that, which I said I thought was really stupid and that people should be entitled to give their opinions, as long as they aren't cruel or mean about it, and then people just got mad at me for saying that and that her fans are allowed to defend her in her own fan thread. At times I've said some things myself like "I don't like this performance" or whatever and people there got mad over it. Over there they act like you must be up the person's ass 24/7 or that you must love and praise everything they do or else you aren't a fan, or at least you should keep the comments positive only. And that is something that I've always liked about Bandaids is that people can express opinions without anyone getting angry over it and that we don't act like little tweens with our heads up Avril's ass all the time and think her shit doesn't stink. I totally get that and I totally get it if people want to say they don't like Avril's new hairstyle or her choice in tattoos or whatever. I myself am not a fan of that half shaved head thing she's fond of. My issue is that it's how some people react over it. I remember the time on Instagram she posted a pic of a ring Chad had given her for her anniversary and eventually she took it down because she got so much shit for it. People actually told her since she's so rich she should be donating all of her money to charity instead of spending it on fancy rings. FANS, actually telling Avril, who has her own freaking charity, that she needs to donate her money to charity, as though she were so evil for her husband buying her something special for their anniversary. Or those people who tell her that now that she's 30, she needs to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and do a certain kind of music. Of course we all have our own preferences and ideas about what kind of music we'd like to hear from her and a new image and all of that, but some people really take it too seriously and act like if she doesn't do what they want, then they won't be a fan anymore. Like OMG SHE BETTER NEVER DO A HELLO KITTY SONG EVER AGAIN!!!!!! Like, basically they think she should conform to whatever their idea is of "mature." I just find it ironic that in the beginning, everyone loved Avril because she wasn't afraid of being different and being herself. But as soon as she acts or dresses in a way people don't like, they stop liking her (well some people do, anyway). I mean, it's definitely true. TBDT era was proof of that. Like I said, my frustration isn't with the fact people have opinions about her or that they shouldn't be entitled to express them. But sometimes it seems like that is all the fans here choose to focus on or it just feels like beating a dead horse. I mean, all of the last era it was nothing but complaints. And yes, there were a lot of issues with the AL era, a lot of which wasn't even Avril's fault and there wasn't much to be happy about with the way that era went, but I also think it's just very unhealthy to always be negative. I mean, the AL era and album certainly isn't my favorite. But when I saw her on tour last year it was one of the best nights of my entire life. She made me so incredibly happy, it was sort of at that point I could never bring myself to be really harsh about her ever again. It doesn't mean I won't express dislike for something she's done once in awhile, but I'm trying to do that less. I'm trying to be more understanding and less judgmental about other people. I mean, when she was giving underwhelming performances onstage a lot of us thought she just didn't care about music anymore. Little did we know she was severely ill. Everyone thought she didn't care about her fans regarding the meet and greet, turns out there were some security issues the last time she was there and they did it to protect her. Sometimes we just don't know what someone is going through, or we don't know the whole story about something, and so I try to be more understanding/forgiving of things and less judgmental. Because for me, it's just a healthier thing to do than be negative all the time. I'm sure that a lot of us, when we come here, we like to see what's new with Avril, not to read the thousandth argument that TBDT era ruined her career, or how Epic ruined her career, etc. I'm sure a lot of us have a lot of shit and stress going on in our daily lives and that we come here for a bit of a break, not to rehash old stuff or beat a dead horse about stuff we've gone over hundreds of times. I'm just saying, after awhile it gets repetitive. At least, it only seems to really occur when there isn't a lot going on with Avril. I mean, when she revealed she was sick, that really brought us all together and we showed her so much support, like we forgot about all the AL era stuff and just wished her well and showed her that we were here for her. It was nice to see after the way the AL era had gone. And it doesn't just happen with Avril fans, I've also seen tensions get high within other fan bases too, when that artist is on a break and there isn't much to discuss. Maybe it's just a product of boredom, I guess. But I do know a lot of fans stopped coming to Bandaids sometimes because it got too negative. Well that site you talked about, I'd indeed never visit Anyway I do agree that on social media, it's unbelievable what kind of drama people make from a little detail. But still, there's a difference between "being negative all the time" and just giving some critisism and your opinion. Being able to do that without being shit on is fundamental for a good fansite, in my opinion. I do agree with what you said about Bandaids sometimes being very negative. I also have left the site for a couple of months because I was tired of everyone shitting on Avril all the time. But I came back, ignored it and started being positive, and people started doing the same. Someone starts something negative, and everyone follows. But do it the other way around, and they'll follow as well.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2015 20:57:05 GMT
BogoGog24 but have any of those discussions happen on the temp forum? Or back at good ol' bandaids? I'm not sure if I've seen it happen so much on the temp forum. I mean, if you're referring to the age old discussions like "Did TBDT era ruin Avril's career?", "If GL had been released as originally planned, would it have done better?", "Should Avril make a rock album again?", etc. etc. etc. then it was mostly at the old site.
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Post by jenda358 on May 29, 2015 21:22:36 GMT
I think most fans who're here don't really overreact (fans on social media is another story). I think everyone is just giving his/her opinion about things, as that's part of why we're here - right ? - without expecting Avril to change it or whatever. We can fangirl about her here, but we can critisise here as well (as long as you indeed, don't overreact). There's nothing wrong with saying you don't like a certain thing. Sure, she's been very ill and been through a lot lately and it's great that she's using social media more; but does that mean we have to be blind about the rest ? It's true that we sometimes pick on the smallest things, but there's just not much more to talk about at the moment right First of all I'm sorry that I'm gonna go a bit off topic. What I'm gonna write is not aimed directly at you, I'll be talking generally to all of us. You just happened to give me suitable statements to quote. As you said, we can fangirl about Avril, but it seems that no one actually wants to do that (except for me). And that concerns me a bit. We're Avril's fandom right? Why aren't we constantly fangirling about random Avril photos and videos and whatever? I know there are lots fanbases who do such things. This way there would always be something to talk about. This was not meant as an insult to anybody. I've had this on my mind for quite a long time and I just had to get it out of myself. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I just had to write what honestly bugs me a bit. Maybe most of you are Avril's fans for too long to be fangirling about her. I'm still relatively new fan of Avril so maybe I'm far too excited about her. Again – nothing I wrote was meant in a bad way. Generally I think we're a great fandom (the best of course), this was just one thing that concerns me a bit. And I'm aware that this post is kinda crazy and I'm sorry for that.
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Post by In Wonderland on May 29, 2015 21:25:01 GMT
I am curious about this. She choosed to answer it, so are she seriously thinking about releasing it sooner than later? Or is it a wish from Avrils side that may not come? Q - Recently you tweeted that you recorded a new song in the studio, can you tell us more about it?A - "No LOL! Probably in a month or two! :)"
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Post by Janne on May 29, 2015 21:34:49 GMT
I think most fans who're here don't really overreact (fans on social media is another story). I think everyone is just giving his/her opinion about things, as that's part of why we're here - right ? - without expecting Avril to change it or whatever. We can fangirl about her here, but we can critisise here as well (as long as you indeed, don't overreact). There's nothing wrong with saying you don't like a certain thing. Sure, she's been very ill and been through a lot lately and it's great that she's using social media more; but does that mean we have to be blind about the rest ? It's true that we sometimes pick on the smallest things, but there's just not much more to talk about at the moment right First of all I'm sorry that I'm gonna go a bit off topic. What I'm gonna write is not aimed directly at you, I'll be talking generally to all of us. You just happened to give me suitable statements to quote. As you said, we can fangirl about Avril, but it seems that no one actually wants to do that (except for me). And that concerns me a bit. We're Avril's fandom right? Why aren't we constantly fangirling about random Avril photos and videos and whatever? I know there are lots fanbases who do such things. This way there would always be something to talk about. This was not meant as an insult to anybody. I've had this on my mind for quite a long time and I just had to get it out of myself. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I just had to write what honestly bugs me a bit. Maybe most of you are Avril's fans for too long to be fangirling about her. I'm still relatively new fan of Avril so maybe I'm far too excited about her.Again – nothing I wrote was meant in a bad way. Generally I think we're a great fandom (the best of course), this was just one thing that concerns me a bit. And I'm aware that this post is kinda crazy and I'm sorry for that. I do think a lot of people on BA have been fans for a very long time, so the real "fangirling" has changed into some steady "being a fan" thing or something idk I noticed it too, after a while the real fangirling comes in periods But you're certainly not the only one who wants to fangirl; I, for example, always like to see new pics and videos : )
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