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Post by Jinkxx on Apr 1, 2015 20:40:59 GMT
Thats why I'm happy her mom was there for her. I think chad was there when he could. I don't think he let her figure it all out by herself. We don't know how he helped her and her Mother obviously could help like 24/7. My thing is Chad could have been there 24/7 and not her mom. I would expect my husband to be by my side. Not off having fun. Yeah I understand your reasons and I wouldn't want my mom around me for 24/7 but both being an artist has consequences. Maybe Avril insisted that Chad had to go on Tour, maybe he wanted to stay at home. Point is we don't know but I see him as a good person and not someone who leaves Avril alone in this ?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 1, 2015 20:42:08 GMT
I really think no one here should make judgments about Chad. We don't know what the situation was. For all we know, he wanted to cancel the tour and be with her but she didn't want him to, as long as her mom was going to be there. Maybe she'd have felt bad or guilty for having him stay at home with her. We don't know what the situation was. If this has taught us anything, it's to not make harsh judgments about people or situations we know nothing about. For months fans were calling her "lazy" when it turns out she was battling a serious illness. So let's not be calling Chad a jerk or anything when we have no idea what the situation was.
Hopefully this situation can raise more awareness about Lyme disease and teach people how to protect themselves. Also, Avril could have gotten the disease from anywhere. Maybe it was from her own house, or maybe it was from somewhere else. She does travel a lot. According to articles, she felt ill since last April. She was in Japan around that time or shortly before to shoot the Hello Kitty music video. She seemed to be in okay condition for that video, so it may have happened shortly after. Anyway, as I said before, I'm glad to hear she is already 80% recovered. I think she made the right decision in waiting until she was better to reveal what was going on because, obviously for awhile she didn't have any idea, and when she did, she was obviously in very bad condition. It probably would have upset fans even more if she said "I can't talk, can't move, I'm in bed 24/7 and my mom is caring for me." I think that would have made fans even more worried, so she made the right call to keep silent until she was much better.
Edit: It was really strange how I found out about this, by the way. I was at work this morning and came back to my desk, opened the Internet and saw the headline. It's sort of strange that it's just come from out of nowhere. But I guess Avril, knowing it was going to be revealed in the magazine, decided to wait until they released the article.
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Post by katrina on Apr 1, 2015 20:58:19 GMT
I do not think this is harsh at all. Someone you love is sick. Even if she told him to go on tour, you'd think or all the people that I would have stayed anyways. She talked about how just reading message and watching videos of fans made her feel better. Just think if your partner was by your side the whole time even though you told them to go and live there normal life.
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Post by jackster31 on Apr 1, 2015 22:19:39 GMT
I do not think this is harsh at all. Someone you love is sick. Even if she told him to go on tour, you'd think or all the people that I would have stayed anyways. She talked about how just reading message and watching videos of fans made her feel better. Just think if your partner was by your side the whole time even though you told them to go and live there normal life. Stop acting like you know anything about their lives. You don't, none of us do. Who are you to judge if Chad was there to support her at all times or not. She says in the interview he's been very supportive. His band even cancelled and rescheduled shows so Chad could spend more time at home. He also flew back and forth in between Canada shows back in Feb, as mentioned in interviews. Calling Chad a jerk when you know nothing about him or their commitments is just bizar and attention seeking imo. He could well have been suffering in silence watching the woman he loves be in such pain and not being able to do anything about it, other than support her where he can. I'm sure it's made their marriage stronger, which is good. Don't make this about anything more than Avril telling us about the hell she's been through and how family, love and fans got her through. This situation has changed her outlook on life as well as her priorities it seems. She knows what is important. #Staystrongavril
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 1, 2015 22:30:58 GMT
I agree. A lot of times in show business, sadly sometimes the show must go on regardless of what else is happening. If the situation was reversed, I can envision Avril continuing with her tour if she wanted/had to. That is show business. They have contracts and things they have to fulfill. Do you really think Chad was onstage having fun every night? He was probably worried sick about her every night he wasn't with her. But there are things that probably prevented him from being there 24/7. Maybe if her mom could not have been there, then it'd have been different. But I remember in 2003 when Avril's grandpa died while she was in Ireland, but she continued with the show anyway, even though it had to have been awful for her. She had an obligation to the fans still and that's probably what Chad felt as well. Maybe she didn't want him to sacrifice all of that for her or she didn't want him to see her suffer so much. Who knows.
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Post by katrina on Apr 1, 2015 22:55:39 GMT
Even though you are in contracts doesn't not mean you have to fulfill them. You just have to put out as many albums as you signed on for or break up if your in a band(not saying thats what he should do). The company will come at you and bang on your door asking you to make an album but doesn't mean you have too. Look at Justin Timberlake, the reason he put out his last two albums was to get out of his contract, they were banging out his door for many years. Yet there was 7 years in between this last album.
You also don't know if anything you are saying is true. Just because you are being more positive about something doesn't give you the right to tell me I'm wrong and that I don't know them. "His band even cancelled and rescheduled shows so Chad could spend more time at home". That could have been for an one of the other band members. Or "He was probably worried sick about her every night he wasn't with her. " All your doing at this point is talking in circles telling me that if I say positive things about them its alright or I'm right and if I say negative thing I'm wrong or you can speak of those things because you don't know them. :S
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Post by sam on Apr 1, 2015 23:04:17 GMT
I agree. A lot of times in show business, sadly sometimes the show must go on regardless of what else is happening. If the situation was reversed, I can envision Avril continuing with her tour if she wanted/had to. That is show business. They have contracts and things they have to fulfill. Do you really think Chad was onstage having fun every night? He was probably worried sick about her every night he wasn't with her. But there are things that probably prevented him from being there 24/7. Maybe if her mom could not have been there, then it'd have been different. But I remember in 2003 when Avril's grandpa died while she was in Ireland, but she continued with the show anyway, even though it had to have been awful for her. She had an obligation to the fans still and that's probably what Chad felt as well. Maybe she didn't want him to sacrifice all of that for her or she didn't want him to see her suffer so much. Who knows. I completely agree with you and Jackster, Chad made sure he saw Avril a little bit, sacrificing that for his tour by re-arranging dates and stuff is anything but being a "Jerk", and I'm glad he found some kind of balance between Avril and the Tour, while it may not of been perfect I'm really glad he did do something about it Even though you are in contracts doesn't not mean you have to fulfill them. You just have to put out as many albums as you signed on for or break up if your in a band(not saying thats what he should do). The company will come at you and bang on your door asking you to make an album but doesn't mean you have too. Look at Justin Timberlake, the reason he put out his last two albums was to get out of his contract, they were banging out his door for many years. Yet there was 7 years in between this last album. You also don't know if anything you are saying is true. Just because you are being more positive about something doesn't give you the right to tell me I'm wrong and that I don't know them. "His band even cancelled and rescheduled shows so Chad could spend more time at home". That could have been for an one of the other band members. Or "He was probably worried sick about her every night he wasn't with her. " All your doing at this point is talking in circles telling me that if I say positive things about them its alright or I'm right and if I say negative thing I'm wrong or you can speak of those things because you don't know them. :S Okay, but Avril and Chad have both said in interviews that Chad has been to see her during the tour, that's why they used that as a point. Obviously he couldn't of been there with her 24/7 as he had a tour on, is he completely obligated to do the whole thing? Probably, but I feel he found a balance between Avril and his fans. Also why are you implying he wouldn't be worried about Avril's condition? Of course he would be It must of been very hard performing for fans with a sick wife at home in the back of your mind, I feel sorry for the man.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 1, 2015 23:42:44 GMT
A contract EXACTLY means you must fulfill it. If not, they will get sued for millions of dollars. That is why contracts exist in the first place. Also, nobody said that you're wrong or that you aren't entitled to an opinion. It's the way you are going about it that we have a problem with. I'm sure the last thing Avril wants to read is her own fans calling her husband a jerk for simply not being at her side every second of every day. All we are saying is that nobody here knows their situation and we shouldn't be making judgements about them without knowing anything about their life. It's seriously unnecessary to be calling him a "jerk" when you have no knowledge behind any of it. You could just be like "Why didn't Chad stay home with her more?" You are talking in circles as much as anyone else is. You're sitting there claiming Chad was having fun while his wife was seriously ill, I mean really? You don't know what he was doing or feeling. I imagine Chad tried to do his best for NB fans but surely Avril was on his mind. Really, it's just not ok to make these types of judgements about him when there's nothing to base it on. If anything, it makes you look like a jerk, not him. At this time, we should be trying to be positive and supportive for Avril, not calling her husband a jerk for no reason. She and the fans have already experienced a lot of difficulties, let's try to be positive at this time and hope she keeps recovering. We finally know what's going on and that she is getting better, let's just focus on that and be happy for her instead of trying to find the negative and create drama from nothing. No one is here for that.
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Post by katrina on Apr 1, 2015 23:53:07 GMT
I do not see how you can find a Balance between a sick wife and touring the world for fans when you have millions in the bank. That doesn't not make sense to me. Not even if Avril told him to go on tour. Even if she was getting better it doesn't make up for it in my head because she just finely felt comfortable telling the world and said she still not 100%. He didn't have to go on tour. He choose to go on tour. So if he's so worry about her why is he not by her side. Nickelback is nothing without Chad. So its not like that band is going to be like... hey, you don't want to go on tour, will we are finding someone new to replace you. Yes, people deal with things in different ways. But when you say your going to stand by someone no matter what...you have to find it in yourself to do so. Even if its hard to deal with
I feel like the only thing you guys have read is the word jerk.
And having worked in the music industry I know that you don't have to fulfill your contract it just means you can't make another album under the same name without being sued by the company.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 1, 2015 23:59:49 GMT
You are assuming he did it for the money, again another judgement you're making about him without evidence or knowing him. Maybe he did it because they have fans? I'm sure they'd understand if they had to cancel the tour because of family issues but the fans would be very disappointed if that had to happen. Just like when Avril still played her show when her grandpa passed, just like when she played all those shows over the summer when she was ill, just like she still made the GYWYL video for us. For the fans. How do you know he didn't do it because of the fans? You just keep assuming the worst of him. Methinks you just don't like Chad at all and are one of those fans that opposes their relationship.
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Post by sam on Apr 2, 2015 0:06:44 GMT
I do not see how you can find a Balance between a sick wife and touring the world for fans when you have millions in the bank. That doesn't not make sense to me. Not even if Avril told him to go on tour. Even if she was getting better it doesn't make up for it in my head because she just finely felt comfortable telling the world and said she still not 100%. He didn't have to go on tour. He choose to go on tour. So if he's so worry about her why is he not by her side. Nickelback is nothing without Chad. So its not like that band is going to be like... hey, you don't want to go on tour, will we are finding someone new to replace you. Yes, people deal with things in different ways. But when you say your going to stand by someone no matter what...you have to find it in yourself to do so. Even if its hard to deal with I feel like the only thing you guys have read is the word jerk. And having worked in the music industry I know that you don't have to fulfill your contract it just means you can't make another album under the same name without being sued by the company. Because of fans, and he did find a balance, as previously stated in other posts he's been to see Avril and has even changed tour dates just to go back to see her, and who knows? she could of fallen ill while the tour was already underway- he wouldn't cancel his tour halfway through and disappoint fans. I'm pretty sure didn't want to break his contact too.
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Post by sam on Apr 2, 2015 0:16:13 GMT
Anyway, this thread is supposed to be about Avril's condition and the illness, not about family commitments, sorry for making it go slightly off topic, let's keep the discussion civil as well
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Post by katrina on Apr 2, 2015 0:17:56 GMT
I actually I don't hate Chad. I've been listening to Nickelback way before anyone even heard of Avril so...
I wasn't trying to cause anything. Using the word jerk was just a way for me expressing myself so that people could understand "my disgust with society with values in marriage". Sorry, I didn't say it that way.
But I guess its also okay to make judgments on others who aren't famous. So I guess I'm done.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 2, 2015 0:27:57 GMT
Let's just be happy after all these months we finally know what's going on and that she is getting much better. And we get to hear Fly with this month!
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Post by Uncle Bob on Apr 2, 2015 5:30:01 GMT
Personally, I don't think I would be so critical of Chad. I have to keep in mind that Nickelback is more than just four guys in a band. It's a multi-million dollar corporation with many employees. Most corporations do not quit doing business because one of its executives has an ill spouse. Especially one that can afford the finest medical and any other care that money can buy and the illness is not life threatening. Chad not only has responsibilities to his wife, he has legal and moral obligations to his fellow band members, management, label, employees and fans. I don't think Avril's fans would be so understanding if she canceled a tour to take care of him. Why would she have to take care of him? She's not a qualified medical care provider.
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