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Post by Underclass King on Aug 16, 2016 4:25:27 GMT
Back in 2004, Avril discussed with Rolling Stone a political song she'd written for Under My Skin revolving around the Beltway snipers in D.C. Here's an excerpt from the interview:
Personally, I love political music such as Madonna's American Life and Green Day's American Idiot. I think it's safe to say that it stems from a liking of politics in general, so I'm really interested to hear this political material Avril was talking about (hopefully one day the song leaks!) Usually the music/image is controversial (it can be argued that American Life almost killed Madonna's career in the United States before her big comeback with Confessions on a Dance Floor) so I think it was for the best that she didn't release the music, at least so early in her career. Although now that Avril's been in the business for 14 years, should she take a risk and release a political song? Avril usually shies away from discussing anything political on social media but let's say she was inspired now to write a political song like she was then. Would you be interested in hearing it or is it a topic you think she should stay away from?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 5:27:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 5:36:30 GMT
Not interested
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 7:36:30 GMT
Aaaaaaand this is why the song didn't make the cut. Those lyrics are quite awful honestly, and they don't bode well for how the whole song might have turned out. It might have been catchy as hell with great instrumentation but... eh.
Yes, I would be interested to hear her do a "political" song, or for that matter do more songs that aren't about romance and breakups or nonsense (arguably LG was her best album in this regard imo, also songs like Runaway and Take It are good examples). But for goodness sake do it with style.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 16, 2016 12:06:11 GMT
Yes I would like to hear this song someday, if it ever leaks, just to hear how it sounds and the rest of the lyrics. Ironically enough, this song could be really relevant even today with all the shootings happening in the US.
And ok I agree with harvey the lyrics aren't the best but I do like the line "He shot somebody every day and now he's still getting away" because it really has this air of sad truth in it.
I think even if Avril were interested in writing a political song now, which I'm not entirely sure she is anymore, I don't think her label would release it, just like what happened to this song. But maybe a more general song about people coming together or something like a "We Are the World" or "What the World Needs Now is Love" type song. Her label should let her do songs with more substance, that is for sure.
But yeah at this point in her career I think Avril has been kind of numbed by the industry and to be perfectly honest I think her talent has been dumbed down from being influenced by labels for so many years. In her early career she was all about songwriting and being a "serious" artist and now she's a commercial popstar, if she's ever going to write a political song, it'd probably be something more vague like what I mentioned above. I doubt she's going to write a song about ISIS or the Clinton-Trump election. It might be nice if she wrote a tribute song to Christina Grimmie or a song for the Pulse nightclub victims. I could see her doing something like that.
But she got panned really hard for Hello Kitty with people accusing it of being "racist" and that was completely unintentional, so I can only imagine how hard she'd get raked over the coals if she wrote a political song. And like harvey said, if you're going to do a song like that, it needs to have really strong lyrics like "A Change is Gonna Come," "Where is the Love?", etc. And after the bad taste that HK left in a lot of people's mouths, she needs to be really careful about what she releases in the future unless she really wants her career to end for good. On the other hand releasing something controversial might at least bring her attention.
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Post by katy on Aug 16, 2016 12:29:53 GMT
I don't think her writing is strong enough for it. I'm not really interested in celebrities political views anyway to be honest.
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Post by StrongSweet on Aug 16, 2016 15:03:18 GMT
The line itself is very goid already, I honestly need to hear. She might be too young for political opinion exposed in public, but now she can.
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Post by eismann on Aug 16, 2016 15:09:33 GMT
She would have to do a rhetoric course first. Her rhetoric skills in interviews are terrible and I can only imagine what would happen if a journalist would ask her about her new political song; "Well it's,like, about - duuuh- a mass shooting, like, that really mad me, like, sad." I dont think Avril is very interested or involved in politics, so I would prefer she sings about topics she actually knows a thing or two about.
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Post by Underclass King on Aug 16, 2016 15:10:35 GMT
Under My Skin's writing in general was pretty weak in my opinion. Even though the intent was nice, Slipped Away in its entirety isn't that great lyric-wise and we can't forget the infamous "she wants to go home, but nobody's home" line in Nobody's Home. Although I agree that if she were to do a political song it'd probably need some stronger lyrics. I also agree that the lyrics are pretty relevant, especially today. I can't really see the song fitting with the album theme-wise since almost every song is about relationships or being yourself though maybe it could've worked as a b-side or bonus track a la I Always Get What I Want? That way fans would've been able to hear it and her message would've reached some people, but not too many that a controversy or anything could ensue.
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Post by booknerd on Aug 17, 2016 0:35:17 GMT
No. As long as I've stuck with Avril, I can't pretend like her songwriting has really gotten much better. She should stay away from politics entirely. I can't deny I'm definitely curious but no, those lyrics are awful lol!
I love when she writes about something out of her norm, that's how you progress, but her and politics just don't mesh.
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Post by Jack on Aug 17, 2016 1:07:02 GMT
It would've been interesting to hear that song, even though its lyrics seem to be basic (to say the least). As for Avril exploring that kind of topics, I'm not against it but I don't know if results would be too good. I'm all for her expanding the topics of her songs, more than love/breakup songs (which I like) or "juvenile" topics (never growing up, being "rock n roll" or "come come, kitty kitty, you're so pretty pretty"), but political songs might be too much for her. Perhaps when she was younger could've worked, but I'm not so sure if it would work nowadays. I think she still has a lot of topics to talk about: her classic love/breakup topics, friendship, Lyme, issues with label, etc.
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Post by Gabo on Aug 19, 2016 2:28:51 GMT
For me this was a lie of her... she didn't answer the question right with the event, it's like "there's no political material on your new album?" and I'd answer that there was (just to make the interviewer think i'm into that), but then I don't know what to say and start mumbling some random shit like "oh yeah, you know, that thing with ISIS.... bombs, and stuff"
At that time I think she forced to make RS think she wrote political material, just to earn herself some kind of "punk credibility" (you know, punk-rock singers are always linked with political-bashing songs)
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Post by orangesky on Aug 19, 2016 9:35:18 GMT
For me this was a lie of her... she didn't answer the question right with the event, it's like "there's no political material on your new album?" and I'd answer that there was (just to make the interviewer think i'm into that), but then I don't know what to say and start mumbling some random shit like "oh yeah, you know, that thing with ISIS.... bombs, and stuff" At that time I think she forced to make RS think she wrote political material, just to earn herself some kind of "punk credibility" (you know, punk-rock singers are always linked with political-bashing songs) She may have lied but I always got the feeling she did write the song but it was very vague. I don't think it was about the sniper but happened to mention the sniper and was more about "why are bad things happening in the world?" sort of like HDIF in its vagueness
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Sept 2, 2020 0:10:38 GMT
Back in 2004, Avril discussed with Rolling Stone a political song she'd written for Under My Skin revolving around the Beltway snipers in D.C. Here's an excerpt from the interview: Personally, I love political music such as Madonna's American Life and Green Day's American Idiot. I think it's safe to say that it stems from a liking of politics in general, so I'm really interested to hear this political material Avril was talking about (hopefully one day the song leaks!) Usually the music/image is controversial (it can be argued that American Life almost killed Madonna's career in the United States before her big comeback with Confessions on a Dance Floor) so I think it was for the best that she didn't release the music, at least so early in her career. Although now that Avril's been in the business for 14 years, should she take a risk and release a political song? Avril usually shies away from discussing anything political on social media but let's say she was inspired now to write a political song like she was then. Would you be interested in hearing it or is it a topic you think she should stay away from? Clearly an iconic song. The verse is the best part
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