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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 11, 2016 20:45:58 GMT
It's a shame that this whole thing happened because of what other people were telling her. It'd be one thing if there was some disagreement directly between Cliff and Av, but the entire thing started because those other guys were pissed with him and sabotaged their relationship by telling her false stuff about him and she and her family bought into it. But everything obviously worked out for the best, none of it obviously ruined her career or anything.
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Post by gabbox on Sept 11, 2016 21:19:11 GMT
I think it's totally true...
Avril was young and probably didn't know what she was doing..so I don't blame her for that
But i TOTALLY blame her for non telling the truth about lyrics.. Saying you wrote a song..when you didn't.. means stealing. Stealing other people's intellectual work and this is not good.
I do research for university..and if anybody else, a student or a professor should take my work and say it's his, I would be totally pissed. Not nice.
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Post by pllforlife on Sept 13, 2016 0:22:08 GMT
Boo hoo. That's the music business. Nettwerk carried her on to sell millions of copies of Let Go and Under My Skin. Then Tina Kennedy came along. Who I met when I was interning at Big Machine after the Avril split with Tina. Tina was then assigned to work with Cassadee Pope. And well, Cassadee's career hasn't really taken off. Tina is a lot of the reason for Avril's downfall. Either way, that is what happens in the business. He needs to get over it and move on. Nettwerk flopped, too and they cry about Avril dropping them, but never forget how Nettwork booked Avril with the Jonas Brother as an opening act.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 16:22:09 GMT
Who cares? Chantil, the Rolling Stone writer, the shit canned manager and the Matrix. Basically the losers vs 50 mil Avril.....the Winner. Sour grapes Sorry suckers Haha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 6:15:21 GMT
Looks like that "shout out" as been removed. Legal action?
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Post by ⋆niki⋆ on Jan 3, 2017 13:56:31 GMT
I wanted to read the story but it disappeared. Can somebody tell me what was it about?
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Post by vancityblackstar on Jan 4, 2017 10:48:50 GMT
"Being naive in this scene aint unusual, Everybody around me has something to say Cant turn it off, popstar life wont go today.. no it just wont go away"
Wrote it just now
She said in many a interview how everyones all "avril avril" all day then when she goes and sits in a hotel alone she feels lost.
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Post by vancityblackstar on Jan 4, 2017 10:49:22 GMT
2002 spotlight/exposed much music interview
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 4, 2017 12:05:43 GMT
I wanted to read the story but it disappeared. Can somebody tell me what was it about? It was basically a long blog post written by her very first manager Cliff Fabri. He said that at the time he was working with Avril, he was also working with another band (I think these are the guys you can see Avril with in those really old videos of her in the studio and it's their music playing when she is listening to some rock song). The guys in this band got jealous I guess that Cliff was spending more of his time working with Avril than them so they contacted Avril and her mother and told them that Cliff was trying to take advantage of Avril and other kinds of lies. Unfortunately the Lavignes bought into it and broke Avril's contract with Cliff. In the legal proceedings part of the agreement would be that they were never to speak of each other again, which is probably why Avril has never mentioned his name in interviews, especially when talking about her career beginnings. Cliff also said in the post that he was the one who negotiated for Avril to write on Let Go and also got her 10% writing credit on Breakaway.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 13, 2017 8:56:21 GMT
I think it's sad that he's not credited, and he was the one who negotiated the percentages for songwriting credits. And yes, he might be really frustrated for not being able to tell his version of the story for so long - I don't blame him for this. I also think he might have violated that agreement by posting that blog... or maybe it has simply expired
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Post by Underclass King on Jan 13, 2017 16:54:19 GMT
Too bad none of us got a snapshot of the blog before it was taken down as it was pretty interesting.
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Post by viccccc on Jan 22, 2017 6:40:50 GMT
2016 post and you guys are just finding out about all that went on back then. If only it was all as simple as that. one thing is who did you think put in the part that neither could talk about each other, it wasn't him BTW Who would benefit the most and if you change the facts of one part of the story what else has been changed?
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Post by zpetspey on Jan 29, 2017 18:53:19 GMT
Too bad none of us got a snapshot of the blog before it was taken down as it was pretty interesting. Attachments:knock cliff.txt (20.92 KB)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 5:52:12 GMT
Boo hoo. That's the music business. Nettwerk carried her on to sell millions of copies of Let Go and Under My Skin. Then Tina Kennedy came along. Who I met when I was interning at Big Machine after the Avril split with Tina. Tina was then assigned to work with Cassadee Pope. And well, Cassadee's career hasn't really taken off. Tina is a lot of the reason for Avril's downfall. Either way, that is what happens in the business. He needs to get over it and move on. Nettwerk flopped, too and they cry about Avril dropping them, but never forget how Nettwork booked Avril with the Jonas Brother as an opening act. Yeah, I was really surprised she went along with being an opening act for those guys.
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Post by niccolo on Feb 5, 2017 6:36:57 GMT
It was billed as her being the "special guest" actually, which isn't the same as opening act. Kelley Clarkson did it for Maroon 5 a couple years back and I believe Mariah Carey is about to do the same with Lionel Richie. I'm sure the money was bad ass and it surely didn't HELP her career, but it in no way harmed it either.
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