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Post by greeneyedsoul on Oct 31, 2017 13:51:26 GMT
Actually, I didn't expect a new album until late 2018, maybe even 2019 since of her health issues. I expected her not wanting to release new music for some time, then she said new music in 2017 and I became all excited for not reason. how you mean "for some times"? I mean its been 4 years. If she wants to stay in the industry she needs to release something. No, she wants to be a musicician. We (and her label(s)) want her to be successful and on the top.
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Post by fih on Oct 31, 2017 14:03:04 GMT
About tour we didn’t get a thing from her mouth, why mentioning she maybe will do it only in Asia cause of her illness? Or that for all we know she doesn’t plan a tour? I don’t get it By the way, Zane mentioned something about tour once or twice so that’s the closest we got to some real info about it, and for what he said she wants and will tour I think BogoGog24 mentioned that because of Avril's health condition. We don't know if she's fully 100% recovered. We don't know how strong she is. We don't know if she wants to be big again like she used to. Maybe she just wants to go with the flow, I mean, she's just making music for the love of making it and if it's going to be successful and she's going to win awards and staff great, but that's not the main point, the point is quality and it looks like she's focusing on that. As she's said, I'm just super happy she's going to make new music. I don't really expect a tour either, even tho it'd be a dream come true of course... just trying to take things step by step [ But that’s exactly the thing, we don’t know a thing, we don’t have any informations about the album so why jumping into conclusions (or well, assumptions) about tour?! That’s what I mean. Can be that she is too weak to tour (hopefully not, and not about touring but I hope she’s fine) but also can be that she’s fine and can do that nicely, but we just don’t and can’t know. So we can’t say that she might or might not tour, or say which places she might or might not go The only official statement we have is from Zane, saying they talked about touring and that he probably can play with her sometimes but he isn’t sure yet, could be that he would open for her.. that’s what HE said, but Avril herself didn’t say a word about tour, and well how could she as she didn’t realeased anything ahaha
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:17:16 GMT
About tour we didn’t get a thing from her mouth, why mentioning she maybe will do it only in Asia cause of her illness? Or that for all we know she doesn’t plan a tour? I don’t get it By the way, Zane mentioned something about tour once or twice so that’s the closest we got to some real info about it, and for what he said she wants and will tour I think BogoGog24 mentioned that because of Avril's health condition. We don't know if she's fully 100% recovered. We don't know how strong she is. We don't know if she wants to be big again like she used to. Maybe she just wants to go with the flow, I mean, she's just making music for the love of making it and if it's going to be successful and she's going to win awards and staff great, but that's not the main point, the point is quality and it looks like she's focusing on that. As she's said, I'm just super happy she's going to make new music. I don't really expect a tour either, even tho it'd be a dream come true of course... just trying to take things step by step We know this how?
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Post by rafarinha on Oct 31, 2017 14:29:52 GMT
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 31, 2017 14:31:20 GMT
[ But that’s exactly the thing, we don’t know a thing, we don’t have any informations about the album so why jumping into conclusions (or well, assumptions) about tour?! That’s what I mean. Can be that she is too weak to tour (hopefully not, and not about touring but I hope she’s fine) but also can be that she’s fine and can do that nicely, but we just don’t and can’t know. So we can’t say that she might or might not tour, or say which places she might or might not go The only official statement we have is from Zane, saying they talked about touring and that he probably can play with her sometimes but he isn’t sure yet, could be that he would open for her.. that’s what HE said, but Avril herself didn’t say a word about tour, and well how could she as she didn’t realeased anything ahaha As Andrea said, it's just assumption... and why not? We don't have many news to talk about
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:33:55 GMT
BogoGog24 God forbid I try to put out something positive and want the best for Avril on an Avril Lavigne forum, since these are obviously things most of bandaids struggles with. All I wanted was to put a positive spin on things that were being said here. To challenge the way of thinking most people have here by putting out that maybe being signed to a major record label wouldn’t be so bad.
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 31, 2017 14:41:29 GMT
I think BogoGog24 mentioned that because of Avril's health condition. We don't know if she's fully 100% recovered. We don't know how strong she is. We don't know if she wants to be big again like she used to. Maybe she just wants to go with the flow, I mean, she's just making music for the love of making it and if it's going to be successful and she's going to win awards and staff great, but that's not the main point, the point is quality and it looks like she's focusing on that. As she's said, I'm just super happy she's going to make new music. I don't really expect a tour either, even tho it'd be a dream come true of course... just trying to take things step by step We know this how? Well in her BMG video she said that writing songs was a therapeutic process, that without even trying she had an album (I guess they were just demos at that point), you can clearly see her passion back... I'm pretty sure that after her illness she couldn't wait to just get back to work in the studio, because that's her life, and I think she's enjoying the process without really thinking "let's make a hit this time/let's make a radio friendly song this time" or whatever. I don't think she's ever worked that way apart for TBDT when she wanted the album to be more fun on the stage. Beside she's at a point in her career where she can afford that we obviously all want her to be successful, but quality is what matters the most and I think she's pointing that way as well (she said it herself in a post that she only wants to deliver her best )
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Post by fih on Oct 31, 2017 15:34:05 GMT
[ But that’s exactly the thing, we don’t know a thing, we don’t have any informations about the album so why jumping into conclusions (or well, assumptions) about tour?! That’s what I mean. Can be that she is too weak to tour (hopefully not, and not about touring but I hope she’s fine) but also can be that she’s fine and can do that nicely, but we just don’t and can’t know. So we can’t say that she might or might not tour, or say which places she might or might not go The only official statement we have is from Zane, saying they talked about touring and that he probably can play with her sometimes but he isn’t sure yet, could be that he would open for her.. that’s what HE said, but Avril herself didn’t say a word about tour, and well how could she as she didn’t realeased anything ahaha As Andrea said, it's just assumption... and why not? We don't have many news to talk about So let’s assume she will be back with it all and not that she would only tour Asia and not anywhere else cause she’s still sick?! Get it? That’s the problem, assuming that she will only tour Asia or some small part of the world cause she’s sick, when we have NOTHING to support that assumption besides more assumptions that she’s still feeling weak
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 15:39:10 GMT
I know exactly where I won’t be when AL6 drops lol
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 31, 2017 17:23:53 GMT
Can we all stop being so damn rude please?
I get wanting to be positive about her label situation. I’m just saying I don’t think, based on what has happened several times in the past with Avril, that it would necessarily be different just because the label is different. I have personal reasons for why I don’t like Republic, which doesn’t help my impression of them. This is also all based on an unconfirmed rumor. Just because Avril followed the guy doesn’t mean she’s signed with them. Arguing over a hypothetical situation is totally pointless.
As for her touring, we don’t know what her plans are. I’m just saying her touring after being as sick as she was is a big deal and I wouldn’t be surprised if the tour is smaller this time or doesn’t happen at all. The AL Tour itself when she wasn’t sick was her smallest to date. She couldn’t even tour in the US as a headliner. Even taking her illness out of it, her tours started declining since 2011. She either needs to tour in smaller venues or travel to places where she still sells a decent amount of tickets like Asia and SA. So no I’m not just saying that based on her illness.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 31, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
And for what it’s worth, touring is enough of a bitch for people in perfect health, let alone someone who was bedridden. She hasn’t been explicit about what her health is like now. But if I were her, I would take it easy and either do a smaller tour or not do one at all. If she has the energy to do a large tour, good for her. I’m just saying I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.
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Post by TomX on Oct 31, 2017 18:05:21 GMT
I've been biting my tongue for the last pages regarding this, but that's enough.
It seems some are so desperate to see her succeed again they don't care about being rude to others just to point out their opinion. And I think it's sad, not to say pathetic, that some people don't give a damn about the quality of her music, because hey, as long as she's N.1 again, who cares? I hate to break it you, but Avril Lavigne is no longer a relevant name in the music industry, let that sink in. She is still more popular than other artists, but she'll never go back to her golden days of the early 00's. This has nothing to do with her sound or promo campaign, it's about the name.
Most of her older fans, 20 to 30 somethings, are at a point in which they want QUALITY over success. Why should we worry about her hitting Billboard Top 10? I'm so over that, I'm too grown up to worry about sales and charts. I just want to enjoy her music. Not saying I wouldn't be happy if she succeeds, provided that her music is actually good.
On a different note, regarding her tours, smaller venues are a must if she wants to tour worldwide again. As I always say, Simple Plan has been touring non-stop for almost two years straight and there hasn't been a place in the world they haven't toured. How? By playing in smaller venues. And Avril is a lot more popular than them, so she could easily book even bigger places than SP and have sold out shows all around the world. But she just has to come to terms that she's no longer what she used to be. She can still play at large arenas in Asia and maybe places like Brazil and Mexico, where the fandom is still very much alive.
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Post by fih on Oct 31, 2017 18:08:07 GMT
Yeah exactly what I was talking about, this kinda conversation is more realistic than a lot of assumptions based on assumptions that we don’t have any clue about
Avril surely should do smaller tours on smaller places, better than putting on sale big places and having to reduce later. In Brazil for example after her first tour here (2005) she played all the same places next two times (2011 and 2014) and those places are way smaller than where she played in 2005 and she surely will keep doing it if she comes here again/if she tours But to me, personally, simpler tour doesn’t mean it’s “bad” or cause they can’t afford more. I was so in love with the stage of 2011, I really preferred those curtains behind the stage, which gave some kinda theater vibe than lots of screens with silly stuff and stupid dancers and choreography.. 2014 I liked the stage being more simple too, just the outfits didn’t look so nice (mostly). She should stick to keep the same clothes during the whole show and focus more on the performance
EDIT: just one thing we should remember, we didn’t get anything from Avril with BMG yet, so we can’t assume they are oh so supportive as well, even more cause the album planned to this year clearly won’t happen anymore (we still have 2 months of 2017 but yeah), and we don’t know at all, none of us, why it’s like that. So could be that Avril changed her mind but as well could be that BMG wanted her to have a number 1 hit. This label thing we can only judge after the album is out, and if she has more songs that sound forced we will only know if they were really forced if she speaks up, otherwise we will have to assume she wanted it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 18:14:59 GMT
If you guys don’t know how to understand what you read, then I can’t help you. You’re misinterpreting everything I’ve been trying to say. No one said anything about sacrificing quality for success. I never said any of that. And if it’s rude to try to look on the positive side of the possibility of her being signed to a major record label then it is what it is. You can have your opinion and I can have mine.
Most of Bandaids is so stuck inside their little boxes of what “quality” and “good” music is and I’m glad the rest of the fandom isn’t like this.
I don’t understand why it’s hard for some of you to wrap around your minds that a song worked on by Avril + hitmakers with respect to the sound of the rest of the record is a GOOD thing. Wanting success for your favorite artist while understanding that she doesn’t have to be a HUGE pop star like she used to be is a GOOD thing.
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Post by Hellelujah on Oct 31, 2017 18:28:16 GMT
As she said yesterday she´s working on Punk-Rock songs. So when she said back to her roots was she talking about TBDT?. Or maybe she's bringing back a little bit of her first 3 albums. If that is the case I'm here for the Post-grunge from UMS
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