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Post by Kaiye on Jan 15, 2018 20:55:13 GMT
^^^ Exactly, if WYWH were the lead, the album would have had done so much better, commercially. Itβs a perfect single, although like most Avrilβs songs, the lyrics could be better.
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Post by Meteora on Jan 15, 2018 20:59:21 GMT
Even if most of her fans would have chosen PUSH as the 2nd single off GL and not SMILE, I think it would have been way different.
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Post by twister013 on Jan 15, 2018 21:23:46 GMT
Even if most of her fans would have chosen PUSH as the 2nd single off GL and not SMILE, I think it would have been way different. Love both songs. God, GL is such a masterpiece! I really can't wait to see what she has in stores for us with AL6!
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Post by Tyrion123 on Jan 15, 2018 21:41:42 GMT
Even if most of her fans would have chosen PUSH as the 2nd single off GL and not SMILE, I think it would have been way different. Push is one of my favourite songs EVER. The singles should have been: 1) Wish You Were Here 2) Push 3) Everybody Hurts 4) Remember When 5) Goodbye (gift for her fans) I really do love What the Hell, itβs a huge bop with amazing sales, but it doesnβt fit the album.
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Post by rafarinha on Jan 15, 2018 22:20:22 GMT
When she asked fans to choose between Smile and Push, I choosed Smile cause it seemed more radiofonic than Push for me
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Post by Erik on Jan 15, 2018 22:22:43 GMT
Unpopular opinion: Smile is one of my favourite song ever!!! I just like it the instrumental and the lyric makes me happy. It has a great feeling.
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Post by rafarinha on Jan 15, 2018 22:28:58 GMT
I dont get why Smile is hated while WHT/HTNGU isn't
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Post by giraffeandy on Jan 15, 2018 22:46:22 GMT
I actually prefer Smile to WTH... However, I wouldn't released both as singles.
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Post by Gabo on Jan 15, 2018 22:47:35 GMT
If she released a strong mid tempo song like DTM, FTP, MHE... that would be actually great. I miss those songs of her that starts kinda softly and then explodes the chorus with some angsty vibe
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Post by giraffeandy on Jan 15, 2018 22:54:11 GMT
If she released a strong mid tempo song like DTM, FTP, MHE... that would be actually great. I miss those songs of her that starts kinda softly and then explodes the chorus with some angsty vibe I kind of miss these songs in general, nowadays I often hear a song that builds up well but the chorus lets me down...
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 15, 2018 23:12:09 GMT
Let's not forget that Avril wants a #1 song again. And I don't think her mind has changed about this. If she's gonna use a ballad as a lead single, it must be something like an Adele or a Sam Smith song but obviously with Avril style. Praying is really good, but didn't do good on the charts #22 even WTH and HTNGU did better. I'm sure BMG wants Avril topping the charts so maybe that's the reason we don't have a song yet, I'm not saying they are forcing her to make a GF 4.0 but maybe to re-work the songs, if they did not like the final result of a song maybe they are trying with another production without going in a GF direction.
Double single not always work, they will be focus only in one like Ed Sheeran and Kelly Clarkson did. But I love the idea. Maybe with a double single they can wait one week to release the 2nd one.
I hope she get that #1 song again. And 2 more top 10 songs, I'm sure she can do it again. And now that she has a new team I hope they choose the right singles. IMO Losing Grip, He wasn't, TBDT, Hot, RNR, HK were not right choices. Mobile, TINS, FtP, Slipped Away, Innocence, Runaway, Everybody Hurts, GYWYL and Bad Girl would have done way better. I'm sure Innocence would have hit the top 10.
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Post by rafarinha on Jan 15, 2018 23:21:51 GMT
BR trends right now
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Post by Gabo on Jan 15, 2018 23:24:37 GMT
BR trends right now I was thinking if Avril was going to say anything related to ORiordan's death. Since she said one of her musical influences were The Cranberries.
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Post by giraffeandy on Jan 15, 2018 23:44:11 GMT
Let's not forget that Avril wants a #1 song again. And I don't think her mind has changed about this. If she's gonna use a ballad as a lead single, it must be something like an Adele or a Sam Smith song but obviously with Avril style. Praying is really good, but didn't do good on the charts #22 even WTH and HTNGU did better. I'm sure BMG wants Avril topping the charts so maybe that's the reason we don't have a song yet, I'm not saying they are forcing her to make a GF 4.0 but maybe to re-work the songs, if they did not like the final result of a song maybe they are trying with another production without going in a GF direction. Double single not always work, they will be focus only in one like Ed Sheeran and Kelly Clarkson did. But I love the idea. Maybe with a double single they can wait one week to release the 2nd one. I hope she get that #1 song again. And 2 more top 10 songs, I'm sure she can do it again. And now that she has a new team I hope they choose the right singles. IMO Losing Grip, He wasn't, TBDT, Hot, RNR, HK were not right choices. Mobile, TINS, FtP, Slipped Away, Innocence, Runaway, Everybody Hurts, GYWYL and Bad Girl would have done way better. I'm sure Innocence would have hit the top 10. I'm not sure if it's realistic tbh. I mean she had only one #1 song and overall 5 top 10 hits until now. And Girlfriend definitely isn't her best song ever. The others were Complicated, IWY, MHE and Sk8er Boi, so almost all from LG, just one from UMS and TBDT. I believe she can do great songs again but it's more than 10 years since her last top 10 and the mainstream has changed a lot, there are many new artists... It'll be so difficult. It's cruel but she won't be relevant to current teenagers. There aren't many artists who stay really popular (I mean in the mainstream, they still can have a lot of fans) for a long time.
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 16, 2018 0:04:01 GMT
Let's not forget that Avril wants a #1 song again. And I don't think her mind has changed about this. If she's gonna use a ballad as a lead single, it must be something like an Adele or a Sam Smith song but obviously with Avril style. Praying is really good, but didn't do good on the charts #22 even WTH and HTNGU did better. I'm sure BMG wants Avril topping the charts so maybe that's the reason we don't have a song yet, I'm not saying they are forcing her to make a GF 4.0 but maybe to re-work the songs, if they did not like the final result of a song maybe they are trying with another production without going in a GF direction. Double single not always work, they will be focus only in one like Ed Sheeran and Kelly Clarkson did. But I love the idea. Maybe with a double single they can wait one week to release the 2nd one. I hope she get that #1 song again. And 2 more top 10 songs, I'm sure she can do it again. And now that she has a new team I hope they choose the right singles. IMO Losing Grip, He wasn't, TBDT, Hot, RNR, HK were not right choices. Mobile, TINS, FtP, Slipped Away, Innocence, Runaway, Everybody Hurts, GYWYL and Bad Girl would have done way better. I'm sure Innocence would have hit the top 10. I'm not sure if it's realistic tbh. I mean she had only one #1 song and overall 5 top 10 hits until now. And Girlfriend definitely isn't her best song ever. The others were Complicated, IWY, MHE and Sk8er Boi, so almost all from LG, just one from UMS and TBDT. I believe she can do great songs again but it's more than 10 years since her last top 10 and the mainstream has changed a lot, there are many new artists... It'll be so difficult. It's cruel but she won't be relevant to current teenagers. There aren't many artists who stay really popular (I mean in the mainstream, they still can have a lot of fans) for a long time. WTH almost hit the top 10 but was released in a wrong way IMO. Live performance without download available, for free some days, etc. I think it would have topped the chart at number 8 IMO with a different release. I agree not many artist remain popular, Rihanna is the only one who I remember. But It has happened, There are people that has hit the #1 after years. I don't think it's impossible but she needs something very fresh and a really good sound, and that's why I think she still working because maybe she thinks her work isn't perfect
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