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Post by sam on Apr 15, 2015 17:41:13 GMT
I also dislike the fact that it doesn't really offer any solution or any statement about who society could be. There is some kind of subtle reference about a faux-anarchic-like society where we build our houses where we want, grow our own food and don't use money. Well, actually that has been already done. In my country. In the 30s. It was short lived and a fiasco, and not only because it was done in the middle of a bombarded city. A very enlightening fact it's that, at one point, they had to print some tickets that worked same way as money with the anarchist syndicate stamp-so money after all. It's frustrating that someone has devoted 8 minutes to state the obvious problems of our world only to conclude with sentences that could have been taken out of a Disney movie. Exactly
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Post by Uncle Bob on Apr 15, 2015 19:02:06 GMT
I hope you see my response as being negative. The video is a good jumping off point for discussion. My problem is with the video itself, not you posting it. It's just I'm at a point in my life where I'm tired of all the doom and gloom, the sky is falling hype. I get it It is interessting to see how poeple react to it. I totally understand your opinion, especially because you are older than us (sorry if it insults you) and you have way more life experience than we have. You see the world from a different perspective than we do. So I'm glad that you are here and that you show us the other side of the coin Oops. I forgot a word in the first sentence of my last post. It was supposed to say... I hope you didn't see my response as negative. I truly didn't mean for it to be taken in a negative way. And, to say it another way... Go on. Live your life. Learn some things. Do some fun stuff. Don't lose sleep about things you have no control of. I'm not saying you should be irresponsible. Do what ever you can to make it a better place. And, don't worry about offending me regarding my seniority. I'm reminded everyday when I shave. I use a mirror.
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Post by Silent Soul on Apr 15, 2015 19:44:43 GMT
I get it It is interessting to see how poeple react to it. I totally understand your opinion, especially because you are older than us (sorry if it insults you) and you have way more life experience than we have. You see the world from a different perspective than we do. So I'm glad that you are here and that you show us the other side of the coin Oops. I forgot a word in the first sentence of my last post. It was supposed to say... I hope you didn't see my response as negative. I truly didn't mean for it to be taken in a negative way. And, to say it another way... Go on. Live your life. Learn some things. Do some fun stuff. Don't lose sleep about things you have no control of. I'm not saying you should be irresponsible. Do what ever you can to make it a better place. And, don't worry about offending me regarding my seniority. I'm reminded everyday when I shave. I use a mirror. Agreed
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Post by Jinkxx on Apr 20, 2015 19:13:19 GMT
I totally agree with that movie! I'm trying to make a change myself with my food choices and spirituality. I have a not a huge comment just the fact I believe its true what that video said. A few rich families are leading the world and we blindly do what we're told..
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Post by sam on Apr 20, 2015 19:23:49 GMT
I'd like to add i think it's silly it mentions taking food and being locked up for it- if it's from someones farm, then, yeah- that's stealing, if it's like a public place like a strawberry or sweetcorn field where you can pick your own, it's fine. Also nobody is stopping you from growing your own organic vegetables yourself
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Post by Silent Soul on Apr 20, 2015 19:40:32 GMT
I'd like to add i think it's silly it mentions taking food and being locked up for it- if it's from someones farm, then, yeah- that's stealing, if it's like a public place like a strawberry or sweetcorn field where you can pick your own, it's fine. Also nobody is stopping you from growing your own organic vegetables yourself Yes that's true I think he means if we steal water and fruit/vegetables from a supermarket than we will be locked away, even if it's "free" in therms of "it's free because the nature gives us water and plants to survive". Thats my theory
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Post by sam on Apr 20, 2015 19:41:43 GMT
I'd like to add i think it's silly it mentions taking food and being locked up for it- if it's from someones farm, then, yeah- that's stealing, if it's like a public place like a strawberry or sweetcorn field where you can pick your own, it's fine. Also nobody is stopping you from growing your own organic vegetables yourself Yes that's true I think he means if we steal water and fruit/vegetables from a supermarket than we will be locked away, even if it's "free" in therms of "it's free because the nature gives us water and plants to survive". Thats my theory Ah I see now even then I still disagree as its a product at the end of the day by someone selling it, you don't have an obligation (given the right financial circumstances) to even buy the produce from them, rather you could make it yourself
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Post by Silent Soul on Apr 20, 2015 19:57:07 GMT
Yes that's true I think he means if we steal water and fruit/vegetables from a supermarket than we will be locked away, even if it's "free" in therms of "it's free because the nature gives us water and plants to survive". Thats my theory Ah I see now even then I still disagree as its a product at the end of the day by someone selling it, you don't have an obligation (given the right financial circumstances) to even buy the produce from them, rather you could make it yourself Of course, thats the best thing you can do,but only a few people do that :/
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Post by sam on Apr 20, 2015 20:01:50 GMT
Ah I see now even then I still disagree as its a product at the end of the day by someone selling it, you don't have an obligation (given the right financial circumstances) to even buy the produce from them, rather you could make it yourself Of course, thats the best thing you can do,but only a few people do that :/ All the more reason to give it a go
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Post by thyarchery on Apr 20, 2015 20:46:33 GMT
I'd like to add i think it's silly it mentions taking food and being locked up for it- if it's from someones farm, then, yeah- that's stealing, if it's like a public place like a strawberry or sweetcorn field where you can pick your own, it's fine. Also nobody is stopping you from growing your own organic vegetables yourself I don't know how it'll be in Britain but here the worst that can happen to you if you steal food from a farm is a dog bite-or, extremely rarely, an electric shot if the fence is electrified-or a shot in the head if the farmer is specially protective and has somewhere safe to bury your body. No, seriously, do you really get imprisoned there? I guess that here all you have to do is pay a fine to the farmer or something like that. Now back to the topic, you certainly can't grow every product you need. I don't think you or Karen can grow an orange tree in your garden and I certainly can't make my own ale, and none of us can grow coffee. And probably, we wouldn't want neither. Supposing we could all magically grow whatever we wanted in spite of the climatic differences and had enough land to do so, that would mean that most of the people would have to devote themselves to agriculture- then, we would go back to the Middle Ages. There wouldn't be enough doctors, or engineers or merely teachers for the population. Not to say that cities would decay and virtually disappear just like they did in the early Middle Age. i don't think any of us wants that.
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Post by sam on Apr 21, 2015 6:42:35 GMT
I'd like to add i think it's silly it mentions taking food and being locked up for it- if it's from someones farm, then, yeah- that's stealing, if it's like a public place like a strawberry or sweetcorn field where you can pick your own, it's fine. Also nobody is stopping you from growing your own organic vegetables yourself I don't know how it'll be in Britain but here the worst that can happen to you if you steal food from a farm is a dog bite-or, extremely rarely, an electric shot if the fence is electrified-or a shot in the head if the farmer is specially protective and has somewhere safe to bury your body. No, seriously, do you really get imprisoned there? I guess that here all you have to do is pay a fine to the farmer or something like that. Now back to the topic, you certainly can't grow every product you need. I don't think you or Karen can grow an orange tree in your garden and I certainly can't make my own ale, and none of us can grow coffee. And probably, we wouldn't want neither. Supposing we could all magically grow whatever we wanted in spite of the climatic differences and had enough land to do so, that would mean that most of the people would have to devote themselves to agriculture- then, we would go back to the Middle Ages. There wouldn't be enough doctors, or engineers or merely teachers for the population. Not to say that cities would decay and virtually disappear just like they did in the early Middle Age. i don't think any of us wants that. The majority of us wouldn't do it anyway or grow the things we could because of convenience but what I'm saying is you can grow some
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Post by Monet ♥ on Apr 21, 2015 9:37:03 GMT
I agree with most of the things in the video. It is sad how humanity has become so materialistic. But is there really any choice? You want to have a roof above your head - you need money, you want to eat something - you need money, you need clothes - you need money. Sure, you can grow your own food but I live in a city appartment and there is no space for that. We are being oppressed by the bigger companies and our governments. Most of the people don't even realize that. By the way, I agree with the food industry. It's so damn scary. Especially fast food chains like McDonalds. I have stopped eating there because it's just too disgusting when you see what is inside that food. I advice you all to do so. We shouldn't point at others and force them to change. In order to bring change, you have to change yourself first. Strong words.
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Post by Jinkxx on Jun 3, 2015 12:47:39 GMT
How do you guys think about Niburu/Planet X? Heard of it? What are your theories? Do you also think the richest families in the world are keeping us unaware of it? Do you think the impact will be huge? Cause I think so I guess.
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Post by thyarchery on Jun 4, 2015 20:24:22 GMT
How do you guys think about Niburu/Planet X? Heard of it? What are your theories? Do you also think the richest families in the world are keeping us unaware of it? Do you think the impact will be huge? Cause I think so I guess. I don't think I've ever heard of it. Can you elaborate on it?
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