paperbackwriter
Member
Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine
Join Date: Sept 26, 2015 22:36:59 GMT
Posts: 202
Likes: 601
Location: Ithilien
Last Online: May 27, 2024 2:19:32 GMT
|
Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 19, 2017 19:16:42 GMT
What is wrong with this guy? He needs to move on already. Whatever he thinks he's doing to ruin her is only making him look bad. By this point we all know she wasn't as honest on how much she contributed to Let Go. It is what it is. This just makes him look like a crazy, bitter, old man because he didn't make a paycheck. I don't see why anyone should give him the time of day.
|
|
BogoGog24
Administrator
I'm off again in my world...
Join Date: Mar 14, 2015 12:38:58 GMT
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 40,374
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 22:34:38 GMT
|
Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 19, 2017 19:36:08 GMT
I wonder if Avril knows he's doing this. I'd guess not, but it's really the last thing she probably needs on her plate right now. Is he aware she just went through a serious illness? Like why does he think she or anyone else would care about this?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Join Date: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Posts: 0
Likes:
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 19:42:13 GMT
The good thing is that he is so irrelevant that he's not on any entertainment news' radar. No one is actively searching for a Cliff Fabri and most fans don't even know who he is. I just hope large Avril fan twitters/sites keep it that way. The less people who know about Cliff and what he's been doing, the better.
|
|
Sarah93
Retired Staff
MOTM Sep '18; MOTM Feb '17; MOTM Sep '17; Avril Trivia Winner '18
Join Date: Jan 12, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
Posts: 5,341
Likes: 4,918
Last Online: Mar 9, 2020 16:21:49 GMT
|
Post by Sarah93 on Mar 19, 2017 19:47:17 GMT
This man is such a freak! He really needs to move on! As you guys have already said, we all know she wasn't completely honest when talking about her contribution in the writing process of Let Go, but as Bogo said, we will never know the truth and, it was also part of the image the label was trying to sell (and it did work ). What does he mean by saying "The Lavigne's wanted to get rid of her"? He's sooo bitter, and we all know she can write her own songs... she's received a lot of help for her first album (I would have had doubts if she didn't, she was so young and coming up with such incredible songs), but later on she became always more involved in the process, she even produced a couple of songs in GL. Yes, once someone is on top and so successful, it is way easier to pick on, and The Rubinoos would have never sued her if Girlfriend wasn't so successful. In my opinion, it would have made more sense, if he said all those things at the beginning (like The Matrix did, or other artists she worked with and had talked badly about her)... but after 15 years, who cares?
|
|
Sarah93
Retired Staff
MOTM Sep '18; MOTM Feb '17; MOTM Sep '17; Avril Trivia Winner '18
Join Date: Jan 12, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
Posts: 5,341
Likes: 4,918
Last Online: Mar 9, 2020 16:21:49 GMT
|
Post by Sarah93 on Mar 19, 2017 19:47:57 GMT
The good thing is that he is so irrelevant that he's not on any entertainment news' radar. No one is actively searching for a Cliff Fabri and most fans don't even know who he is. I just hope large Avril fan twitters/sites keep it that way. The less people who know about Cliff and what he's been doing, the better. Exactly!
|
|
Red
Member
AL17
Join Date: Apr 12, 2016 3:06:56 GMT
Posts: 539
Likes: 605
Last Online: Nov 9, 2021 5:41:56 GMT
|
Post by Red on Mar 19, 2017 19:57:48 GMT
Wtf is wrong with this guy? It was such a long time ago, they don't have anything to do with each other anymore. He is portraying Avril like she was an evil spawn.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Join Date: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Posts: 0
Likes:
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 20:05:49 GMT
Holding a grudge this long isn't healthy in any shape or form. Hope he gets help soon. xoxo
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Join Date: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Posts: 0
Likes:
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 20:10:35 GMT
It's especially terrible because he's saying these things about a 15 year old girl. A 15 year old who is now over 30. This isn't normal or healthy. I know, right? She was such an innocent little thing despite her corrupt ADHD self......hahaha.
|
|
BogoGog24
Administrator
I'm off again in my world...
Join Date: Mar 14, 2015 12:38:58 GMT
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 40,374
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 22:34:38 GMT
|
Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 19, 2017 21:16:11 GMT
My guess is that he couldn't say anything in the beginning of her career because they had a contract that he was to never say anything about her (and probably she of him as well). Perhaps it expired and that's why he's now revealing all this info.
I don't know what he means by "the Lavignes wanted to get rid of her" but it's presumably referring to how she and her mom weren't getting along at the time. However, to put it in those words is very harsh. I'm sure that even if Avril was a terror back then and her mom didn't know what to do with her, that she still loved her very much. Saying they "wanted to get rid of her" sounds horrible.
|
|
Sarah93
Retired Staff
MOTM Sep '18; MOTM Feb '17; MOTM Sep '17; Avril Trivia Winner '18
Join Date: Jan 12, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
Posts: 5,341
Likes: 4,918
Last Online: Mar 9, 2020 16:21:49 GMT
|
Post by Sarah93 on Mar 19, 2017 21:31:11 GMT
My guess is that he couldn't say anything in the beginning of her career because they had a contract that he was to never say anything about her (and probably she of him as well). Perhaps it expired and that's why he's now revealing all this info. I don't know what he means by "the Lavignes wanted to get rid of her" but it's presumably referring to how she and her mom weren't getting along at the time. However, to put it in those words is very harsh. I'm sure that even if Avril was a terror back then and her mom didn't know what to do with her, that she still loved her very much. Saying they "wanted to get rid of her" sounds horrible. Every mum loves their child very much, no matter what. I also think it's quite normal for a mother-daughter fight, especially at that age... even if she were a terror, her mum has always been extremely supportive, because that is what mothers do Saying "The Lavigne's wanted to get rid of her" is so stupid and horrible, it's like saying "her mum wanted to get rid of her own daughter", what? Does he even understand what he writes? He's such a freak, and I'm glad they cut ties with him so early on, especially knowing that he holds grudges for so long, which is not healthy at all!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Join Date: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Posts: 0
Likes:
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 21:56:45 GMT
I was always impressed that Avril was so independent and she left home so early. I believe her Mom said she couldn't wait to be gone. Face it Cliff, Avril has always been and forever will be so much more special than you. And Why'd you have to be so mean?
|
|
332
Member
Banned
Join Date: Sept 22, 2016 23:46:35 GMT
Posts: 176
Likes: 40
Last Online: Apr 2, 2017 19:03:47 GMT
|
Post by 332 on Mar 24, 2017 20:36:52 GMT
as a teenager I was a fucking trouble and done a lot of stupid shitt,I don't agree that bad teenager ends up with a miserable life or a bad life, just 5% kids like me ends up doing really bad in life, things turn around when you get older and everything gets better. Without record deal or being a singer, I doubt that she would be some failure in life now. Way to exaturated to say "I saved 15 year old kid a life", cuz she wasn't excited to work at restaurant, oh c'mom, she wasn't a gang member and killed half of Napanee I'm not saying that it happens to everybody but it very well could have, especially if she really did or try to steal a car. That is already going down a very bad path. Most of the stuff she did like drinking beer on a class trip when she was only a few years away from the legal age anyway or talking in class, skateboarding down the hallway, etc. is pretty dumb and mostly harmless, yes. But when you start fooling with the law like stealing personal property (if that actually did happen), it's not cute anymore. At this point when you are in high school you need to start thinking about what you're gonna do with your life, go to college, get a job, etc. Grow up. Stealing cars and such is not amusing at that age, it's sad. It seemed like she didn't have a lot of direction at that point in her life, she was not interested in school. It's a good thing that the music career worked out for her since that's what she really wanted to do. And I know she would say that if she wasn't a singer, ironically she'd want to be a police officer or something like that, so yeah presumably she would have probably done something else with her life. I'm not saying she would have ended up in jail. But it seems like the music career finally gave her a purpose in life and forced her to kind of grow up. BogoGog24 the your last Sentence is true for me didn't have goal/purpose in life except to drink act bad. i have done the beer in class or rather when i suppose to be in class first hand i did this myself. drinking all the time always had alcohol with me family and i didn't exist and still to 2017 my bother, sister don't talk with me some 30 years later but my parents and i finally started caring about what each wanted. my parents goals were there's for me and not mine. the drinking just one thing then the driving the get away car from breaking into a stereo store to making drug runs to Las Vegas to doing time in prison. so i can really relate to Avril and i am aware i don't know exactly what she was going thru. this Sentence by BogoGog24 Her mom was probably super frustrated dealing with her because she didn't know what she could do to make Avril grow up. this is so revelant for my parents at that time. i see that time in my life even today and don't like what see. as to Cliff Fabri, Brian bringing this up now i have no idea what the motivation is as i don't think there is any finacial gain to be made from it. glad avril got the record deal.
|
|
niccolo
Member
Join Date: Apr 13, 2015 0:42:43 GMT
Posts: 190
Likes: 277
Last Online: Mar 31, 2023 18:43:40 GMT
|
Post by niccolo on Mar 26, 2017 6:57:14 GMT
I don't think it's relevant to pin any kind of acoholc or addict status onto her, but the excuse of "she never did drugs cause she never told us!" reasoning is somewhat laughable.
This guy has obvious issues, but his overwhelming insistence of being wronged is somewhat notable and should be taken with as many grains of salt as we all feel personally necessary,
|
|
BogoGog24
Administrator
I'm off again in my world...
Join Date: Mar 14, 2015 12:38:58 GMT
Posts: 15,239
Likes: 40,374
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 22:34:38 GMT
|
Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 26, 2017 12:05:35 GMT
I don't think it's relevant to pin any kind of acoholc or addict status onto her, but the excuse of "she never did drugs cause she never told us!" reasoning is somewhat laughable. This guy has obvious issues, but his overwhelming insistence of being wronged is somewhat notable and should be taken with as many grains of salt as we all feel personally necessary, Saying "I'm 100% against drugs" is different than "she never told us she did drugs."
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Join Date: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
Posts: 0
Likes:
Last Online: Nov 23, 2024 23:20:07 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 12:23:46 GMT
she tried and then decided she is 100% against them.
|
|