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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 12:17:16 GMT
I don't completely dislike Unwanted, and she has other songs I would rank as being worse, but it's easily my least favorite off LG. I think Unwanted is also much better live, especially the Budokan version where she puts more emotion into it. I remember Zach from the old forum said he always thought the production was too poppy for the kind of song that it is, so perhaps that could have something to do with people's dislike of it as well. Her live performance of it in Budokan is often praised by fans. Even the Budokan version has never done anything for me, which I guess is an unpopular opinion in itself. I dunno, it's just... meh. As for the production on the album version, I don't know what else could have worked for a pop rock album. It would be a bit jarring if it had a raw, no-bullshit kind of production compared to the rest of the album. Had she gone down the pure rock road like we've been talking about recently and if LG was a pure rock album, then yeah that would be different.
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Post by Becky on Sept 18, 2015 12:37:26 GMT
I adore Unwanted live at Budokan. I just think the concert in general looked fantastic, but doesn't beat her energy on TBDT.
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Post by StrongSweet on Sept 18, 2015 13:47:06 GMT
Although Unwanted is considered to be a boring song in the album, it isn't a bad thing to exist in the album. I mean, the Unwanted performance over the years are quit impressive, the light, her move, her vocal. The reason we had these big production performance (in Avril case) only because the song is repetitive and somehow boring. And this kinda could be way to have bigger production in the tour, just like Bad Girl ]
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 14:30:49 GMT
Although Unwanted is considered to be a boring song in the album the song is repetitive and somehow boring Mere presumption, this is the "unpopular" opinion thread. Not the "general" opinion of fans.
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Post by Gabo on Sept 18, 2015 23:12:14 GMT
If it makes you feel better, Unwanted is hardly the first song of its kind that I find bland and generic. I think bands like Nickelback, Staind, Creed etc. have built entire discographies on ripping off music which came before them and then watering it down - namely the whole 'grunge rock' thing in the late 80s and early 90s. And oh boy don't get me started on all the cliches and copycatting in metal... and I fucking love metal, btw. That's the problem with the post-grunge genre... Everything sounds the same.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 19, 2015 0:11:50 GMT
There are songs that sound the same in every genre though. There were plenty of bands that tried to emulate the same boy band sound as The Beatles, plenty of girls tried to make music like Avril, plenty of country singers jumped on the bro country bandwagon, etc. When a certain thing becomes popular, everyone tries to copy it. That is just the way the music industry always has been and likely always will be, regardless of genre. Every genre has copycats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 2:08:00 GMT
If it makes you feel better, Unwanted is hardly the first song of its kind that I find bland and generic. I think bands like Nickelback, Staind, Creed etc. have built entire discographies on ripping off music which came before them and then watering it down - namely the whole 'grunge rock' thing in the late 80s and early 90s. And oh boy don't get me started on all the cliches and copycatting in metal... and I fucking love metal, btw. That's the problem with the post-grunge genre... Everything sounds the same. butt rock :rip: but personally love the alt-metal influenced post grunge bands like Seether. Insanely catchy. Those post-grunge bands should be viewed as incorporating another style of music with grunge, not a watered-down version of original grunge like Nickelback or Creed
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 7:04:28 GMT
There are songs that sound the same in every genre though. There were plenty of bands that tried to emulate the same boy band sound as The Beatles, plenty of girls tried to make music like Avril, plenty of country singers jumped on the bro country bandwagon, etc. When a certain thing becomes popular, everyone tries to copy it. That is just the way the music industry always has been and likely always will be, regardless of genre. Every genre has copycats. Of course. Some genres have more copycatting than others, though. Other genres seem to be built on the whole idea of copycatting. And in certain genres, being a copycat is almost celebrated. There's basically a checklist for what a metal band is supposed to sound like, with any deviation being strictly forbidden by the metal community. Most of these bands aren't making huge amounts of money and doing world tours, btw. It's a cultural thing, which has little to do with how the music industry works. I could ramble on about this all day, but I think I'll just be talking to myself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 7:16:07 GMT
Other genres seem to be built on the whole idea of copycatting.
#postgrunge nirvana #powerpop beatles
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Post by Kaiye on Sept 21, 2015 5:49:36 GMT
I actually like Alice the way it is. Sure it's as many people say, it's really noisy and she's screaming her ears off, but I think it's meant to be that way. It's one of her best songs lately, and I think the production is just solid.
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Post by Kaiye on Sept 21, 2015 5:54:15 GMT
I think WYWH is much more than a catchy generic pop song. I feel like there's alot more depths to the lyrics, especially in the verses. More than many people realize.
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Post by goodbye on Sept 22, 2015 18:53:22 GMT
I Love "I Love You" it's so perfect for GL. I wished 17 would Sound like this
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Post by Jinkxx on Sept 24, 2015 10:41:21 GMT
I'm really annoyed by YASNY and SOS. The "yeah yeah yeah yeah" part sounds like way too childish for me :\
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Post by Cookie Monster on Oct 8, 2015 8:35:25 GMT
GYWYL would have failed as a single. It's certainly a great song to the fans, but it's really not much of a song, actually quite unoriginal, for the ears of the mainstream listeners.
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Post by Kaiye on Oct 8, 2015 8:50:12 GMT
GYWYL would have failed as a single. It's certainly a great song to the fans, but it's really not much of a song, actually quite unoriginal, for the ears of the mainstream listeners. Entirely disagree. While it's true that it's not revolutionary for music out there these days, it would do much better than her current releases. Releasing it as a 2nd single or even the 1st, with optimal promotion, would not only help her image as an artist but could also be an excellent bridge to diversify her succeeding singles. She, then could release Bad Girl, Let Me Go, a summer song and a self written song (Falling Fast). If she and her team managed to pull it off, it would, as I said, not only help her image as an artist but also for the AL album as well. Also the sales. People might actually see the album as how Avril described -a collection of songs of various styles she experimented, rather than how it is actually seen - a bunch of random songs pu together lacking artistic direction.
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