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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 19, 2018 18:48:30 GMT
Mainly one of the reasons I think Avril came off badly here is because of things like “she rolled her eyes and said “I play all my own shit” as though we’re supposed to be impressed at her lazily strumming a guitar that isn’t even plugged in. She’s not some virtuoso musician and the eye rolling and “I play ALL my own shit!!!” is just obnoxious and cocky. Sounds like the kind of thing she used to say when she was a teenager. I don't think she was trying to impress anybody, she's been saying that since the start of her career... I just think she wanted to underline it again, like all the time she says it, just to show that she's a musician that writes her own music and can play instruments, something not so common among pop artists...
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Post by eismann on Oct 19, 2018 19:28:56 GMT
I don't know from Rihanna but most of the popstars know how to play instruments. Avril fails to realise that it makes her look stupid if she still thinks that would make her special. Especially since her skills haven't really improved for 10 years and like Boho said her guitar is not even plugged in when she is on tour, so... She barely writes songs all by herself. She produces 1 song per album, maybe 2 songs by herself. Again, a lot of popstars do that. So 'rolling her eyes' and stating that she is doing all this shit on her own is just bratty. Another that made her look bad (imo!) is showing her wealth that much. I understand that this is the interviewers fault for focusing on Avril's expensive lifestyle and huge house, but she just seems like a 'rich bitch' in that interview. The gossip about Shania Twain is not helping, too. There are so many more points, but I'm too lazy right now to me this is a bad article, from content, to quotes, to form, to length etc. I don't like it at all
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 19:54:32 GMT
True points but the same things she said could have been presented in a manner to make her look good, but this writer went snarky. Maybe Avril didn't like the interviewer? She can play enough guitar/piano to accompany herself on a song. More than most Pop Stars I would say. Maybe after your nap you'll think different?
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Post by Sara on Oct 19, 2018 20:00:44 GMT
Since Billboard already had problems with other artists, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to twist things. It seems like an interview from the Avril of 2002. I feel like some journalists, label owners (see Epic with the motherfucker princess's songs) etc refuse the fact that she's grown up now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 20:02:05 GMT
you have to remember, we don’t know how much of what they wrote she said was true or not. I remember with Selena Gomez, she wasn’t happy with her article because of much they twisted her words and shaded her.
also even if she doesn’t produce that many songs, she has a self written songs, she composed nearly all of them, and there’s even songs where she’s playing drums, piano, and guitar on them. she also has been her own A&R and art director. even if she isn’t credited in the album booklet. there’s a lot of official stuff you can find online of the effort that she puts into her records. : o
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Post by orangesky on Oct 19, 2018 20:24:47 GMT
Clearly the interviewer was with her for some time - it talks about being on the couch, her skateboarding for quite some time, then they're in the kitchen, later the garden - and for all that time shockingly little of the article is actually quotes from her. They could easily have written this as her having a playful, free spirited side but still made her seem mature by focusing on Lyme, her feelings on relationships, her upcoming album and just briefly mentioning the other stuff. But they chose to do things the other way round.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 19, 2018 21:22:13 GMT
I agree with what eismann said. Yes it’s great that Avril can sing live, write her own music, produce, and play instruments decently. But as she said, this isn’t something unique or special like it was when Avril was first on the scene amongst the Britney’s of pop music. Taylor, Katy, Gaga, Miley, Shawn Mendes, Ed Sheeran, Bieber... they all do the same thing as Avril, all play instruments and write their own music and sing live. In the case of Adele I’m not sure she can play instruments but she is heavily involved in writing and well known for her voice. The way they quoted Avril in this article and even the way she talks about it in other interviews sometimes is as though she thinks she’s still up against lip synching pop tarts who can’t write real music. I’m not knocking the fact Avril can do all those things but it also is not something unique or special anymore. That’s why I’m saying are we supposed to be impressed by this? Especially when some artists can write or play better than her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 22:00:50 GMT
I agree with what eismann said. Yes it’s great that Avril can sing live, write her own music, produce, and play instruments decently. But as she said, this isn’t something unique or special like it was when Avril was first on the scene amongst the Britney’s of pop music. Taylor, Katy, Gaga, Miley, Shawn Mendes, Ed Sheeran, Bieber... they all do the same thing as Avril, all play instruments and write their own music and sing live. In the case of Adele I’m not sure she can play instruments but she is heavily involved in writing and well known for her voice. The way they quoted Avril in this article and even the way she talks about it in other interviews sometimes is as though she thinks she’s still up against lip synching pop tarts who can’t write real music. I’m not knocking the fact Avril can do all those things but it also is not something unique or special anymore. That’s why I’m saying are we supposed to be impressed by this? Especially when some artists can write or play better than her. I get what you’re saying Bogo. You and I are guitar players so we maybe judge her technique a little stronger. I saw and heard her play NH solo on guitar down in Brazil last tour. I was maybe 50 feet from her. I also saw Taylor play Better Man solo from about 80 feet away. I think Avril sounded better (and you know how I feel about T:). So I guess my point is that Avril is still a Star and that troll reporter ought to show her more respect. Maybe we should to? ❤️
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 20, 2018 9:40:45 GMT
I agree with what eismann said. Yes it’s great that Avril can sing live, write her own music, produce, and play instruments decently. But as she said, this isn’t something unique or special like it was when Avril was first on the scene amongst the Britney’s of pop music. Taylor, Katy, Gaga, Miley, Shawn Mendes, Ed Sheeran, Bieber... they all do the same thing as Avril, all play instruments and write their own music and sing live. In the case of Adele I’m not sure she can play instruments but she is heavily involved in writing and well known for her voice. The way they quoted Avril in this article and even the way she talks about it in other interviews sometimes is as though she thinks she’s still up against lip synching pop tarts who can’t write real music. I’m not knocking the fact Avril can do all those things but it also is not something unique or special anymore. That’s why I’m saying are we supposed to be impressed by this? Especially when some artists can write or play better than her. I understand your point, but again I don't think she said it to impress anyone but the journalist, I think she was annoyed by him... he does make it sound like she was annoyed all the time, but then again, it wasn't a great article.
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Post by slapstick on Oct 20, 2018 10:58:42 GMT
Mainly one of the reasons I think Avril came off badly here is because of things like “she rolled her eyes and said “I play all my own shit” as though we’re supposed to be impressed at her lazily strumming a guitar that isn’t even plugged in. She’s not some virtuoso musician and the eye rolling and “I play ALL my own shit!!!” is just obnoxious and cocky. Sounds like the kind of thing she used to say when she was a teenager. you have to remember, we don’t know how much of what they wrote she said was true or not. I remember with Selena Gomez, she wasn’t happy with her article because of much they twisted her words and shaded her. also even if she doesn’t produce that many songs, she has a self written songs, she composed nearly all of them, and there’s even songs where she’s playing drums, piano, and guitar on them. she also has been her own A&R and art director. even if she isn’t credited in the album booklet. there’s a lot of official stuff you can find online of the effort that she puts into her records. : o Don't y'all take this too harshly, but if you like some artist its quite easy to become biased when something is released into public that is not in line with your views and convictions. Was Selena Gomez not happy because they made her look bad, or was she merely mad that there was not enough sugar-coating given to her interview? Same goes with Avril, was interviewer (Anna Peele's the name) intentionally making her look bad, or is maybe Avril really a 'bitchy hollywood blonde' to a degree? It's one's word against the other if you go on a case by case basis, but Avril's behaviour during many of the interviews didn't exactly give vibes of a friendly, hospitable person, and as far as I know she had quite a few fallouts with her colleagues in the business, which may point to her having certain quirks that aren't exactly what you'd want from any person. Again, plenty of speculation, but I have severe doubts that the image you got from the interview is particularly different from the reality.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 20:00:26 GMT
Careful SS, you may jeopardize your Member of the Month nomination.
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Post by StrongSweet on Oct 30, 2018 12:31:56 GMT
I agree with what eismann said. Yes it’s great that Avril can sing live, write her own music, produce, and play instruments decently. But as she said, this isn’t something unique or special like it was when Avril was first on the scene amongst the Britney’s of pop music. Taylor, Katy, Gaga, Miley, Shawn Mendes, Ed Sheeran, Bieber... they all do the same thing as Avril, all play instruments and write their own music and sing live. In the case of Adele I’m not sure she can play instruments but she is heavily involved in writing and well known for her voice. The way they quoted Avril in this article and even the way she talks about it in other interviews sometimes is as though she thinks she’s still up against lip synching pop tarts who can’t write real music. I’m not knocking the fact Avril can do all those things but it also is not something unique or special anymore. That’s why I’m saying are we supposed to be impressed by this? Especially when some artists can write or play better than her. even pop star can write nowadays - Lady Gaga
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