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Post by Mohican. on May 29, 2019 14:01:51 GMT
Or maybe she's actually filming the Devil video. And it's something very artsy with her painting in the video and at the end you see the portrait of the devil. (Ahahahah never. Would. Happen.) Yes, that‘s it most likely.
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Post by sybersushi1 on May 29, 2019 14:11:45 GMT
I don’t know if you’ve noticed but many fan accounts across all social media platforms are slowly disappearing and even making new accounts about other artists. She’s rapidly losing her last couple of fans during this era due to lack of communication and overall commitment to her job. It looks to me like a dead end of her career at this point.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2019 14:27:56 GMT
As many fans as she’s losing, it’s probably hardly enough to make a significant dent or for her/her team to notice or be concerned. She still has millions of followers on social media. Whether or not this translates to music sales or ticket sales is another story. I don’t think HAW sold all that well and her streaming numbers apparently are not good. The last couple tours didn’t sell well. The true test of her popularity will be in the sales numbers, especially with touring. Well she will always have fans in Asia I guess.
Maybe that’s what is taking so long with tour plans. Trying to figure out appropriate venues. I really hope her team realizes she can’t sell out arenas anymore and books her venues she can realistically fill. It’s so embarrassing and sad to watch her play to half empty arenas.
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Post by StrongSweet on May 29, 2019 16:46:58 GMT
I think the reason Avril feels lost because RCA Records changed and injected her a personality, you can also notice how badly changed from Miley Cyrus
Miley Cyrus before RCA Records:
Miley Cyrus in RCA Records:
Miley Cyrus in RCA Records for a while:
Avril Lavigne before RCA Records:
Avril Lavigne in RCA Records:
And notice the things she said were very commercial actually for "The Best Damn Thing" @1:14 to 1:31 Avril Lavigne in Epic Records:
Avril Lavigne in BMG:
Zayn Malik in RCA:
Zayn Malik in RCA for awhile:
He uses budget from himself to make the video tho
I mean, RCA clearly terrible. They inject artists a personality to sell record. Once artists don't likely into them, they tend to stop supporting those artists and those records after big success. There is a reason why Avril doesn't want DB to be single. It isn't her passion.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2019 17:25:50 GMT
Most record labels do that though?
Avril was still her genuine self in TBDT era, even if more pop/commercial than before. It has nothing to do with RCA. Her trouble started with GL and that’s more because the album wasn’t what would typically sell. It’s not surprising they fought with her on it. Hardly any of the songs would have done well on radio.
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Post by heaven on May 29, 2019 18:27:08 GMT
I don't get the comparision tbh, Miley said she was controlled in her Disney days and now she can do what she wants even if i personally think she was more herself during he earlier career than now, but that's my personal thought. And why choosing Zayn? He just made 2 albums... RCA was more terrible with Kelly Clarkson, but how was she able to put My December in its original way? Why didn't she write a What The Hell or something like that? She flopped yes, but at least she flopped with an album she truly believe in it and she didn't fight for nothing like Avril did with Goodbye Lullaby.
Avril is lost because she wants to be lost, there are so many things happened to her but the best she can come with was the self-titled and Head Above Water.
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Post by biggerwow on May 29, 2019 19:30:10 GMT
I truly believe Miley was being herself. And you could see it in her personal life too. She started hooking up with girls and smoking pot very publicly. She was shedding her Disney reputation like every other Disney star before her but she looked like she was enjoying it and doing it HER way. She sexualized herself and I don't think she was completely pushed by her label. She was also in an age where it was normal to explore it her "college years". Avril also did what she wanted in the TBDT era. Remember she didn't even let the label guy be around the studio. She herself said she had a vision and went for it. It was her time off that ruined her. She's talked about the execs pushing her but you got to admit that Avril is very old school. There's a reason why she is a nostalgia artist and it's because she doesn't dabble in the current trends. It worked during LG but starting in 2010 people changed and so did the music. Zayn, I don't know what you mean. He's always been very creative/artistic. He bought a mansion and painted over the walls since 1D. It doesn't shock me that he uses his own money to make his videos the way he wants. If he has issues with his career is because of his anxiety that has caused him to go about things differently in his career. I think the only person who has been very open about RCA has been Kelly Clarkson, like heaven said. And that's because she's with Warner's now not Sony who is the umbrella company for RCA. If Avril were more open about it but she hasn't really unless you count the article from the Guardian where she discussed someone it (the one with the girl who bashed her afterwards).
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Post by sully0508 on May 29, 2019 19:51:42 GMT
Think they’ll ask Avril to perform DB at the Radio Disney Awards?
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Post by snapshot on May 29, 2019 20:43:17 GMT
I am willing to bet the tour will be short. Probably limited to Asia, maybe something like 1 or 2 shows in the UK. If she tries to tour the US again, I wonder if she’ll have to be an opening act again. As long as she comes to the UK I'll be a very happy man. Sorry mate, I really doubt she'll come to the UK particularly with her recent record sales.. When I went to the Black Star tour in Manchester it was only around 3/4 full and in a smaller venue. I also saw Marilyn Manson at the same venue but he pretty much sold out. I just don't think she has the following here to warrant a tour and if she does it'll be London only. Don't get me wrong, it's her own fault / management fault (if you prefer) as there's been zero promo to her UK fans (or anywhere else other than Asia). It's a shame.. I had only just started liking her when it was her Try To Shut Me Up tour in the UK and although she played medium venues i'm sure she sold out.. and then when I saw Bonez / TBDT at arena's they were very full! I wouldn't actually mind a smaller intimate venue particularly with her recent music but I can't see it happening.
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Post by Erik on May 29, 2019 21:27:22 GMT
Actually I've got nothing to say anymore so I'm just staying quite and reading some of your thoughts. I kind of see why people get mad but am I honestly the only one here who absolutely doesn't care what she does? She paints, that's really great because I found my passion for painting this year so somehow I can relate. I'm just listening to her music and waiting for something new. If it happens, it will happen and that's that. So.. I think I'm going to be really quite for the next few days/weeks/months. Have fun and be respectful to everyone. I really dont care much about her tbh, but I was waited a long time to get this album. My expectations were low, but I think we deserve at least 1 more music video. I was sooo excited about DB video, then she let down. Got hyped for Devil, and nothing happened....
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 29, 2019 21:30:42 GMT
HAW charted in the top 10 in the UK though so who knows. Maybe if she played much smaller venues she could do a few shows in the UK. It did surprisingly well in Germany too, her highest charting album there since TBDT.
I don’t think she’ll perform at the Radio Disney awards just because her song topped the chart one week. She is not really a Disney appropriate artist and she’d have to sing the edited version. I also think clearly promo for DB has been dropped.
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Post by katy on May 29, 2019 21:42:02 GMT
hi soz @anyonewhocanhelp any chance all those YouTube vids can go in a spoiler tag or something lol this threads freezing my phone now and I wanna read it cos I’d hate to miss something in this hectic promo schedule... (seriously tho can they?)
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Post by slapstick on May 29, 2019 21:49:03 GMT
HAW charted in the top 10 in the UK though so who knows. Maybe if she played much smaller venues she could do a few shows in the UK. It did surprisingly well in Germany too, her highest charting album there since TBDT. I don’t think she’ll perform at the Radio Disney awards just because her song topped the chart one week. She is not really a Disney appropriate artist and she’d have to sing the edited version. I also think clearly promo for DB has been dropped. Reminded me of that silly live WYWH variant- " Yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'd do to have you here, here, here". Who gets offended over the word 'damn'?
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Post by quincy2000reingoud on May 29, 2019 22:06:57 GMT
I gonna take a guess Amsterdam?
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Post by slapstick on May 29, 2019 22:15:21 GMT
She took a private jet from Santa Monica Airport, I recognise that. The mountains don't look European, maybe some American from the west or northwest can chime in?
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