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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 8, 2020 21:10:43 GMT
I really love first part of the song, and maybe second part, but chorus and bridge I really dont like.... I don't like when singers sing that way.... I don't know how to express myself... Agreed. A lot of fans seem to like when she sings really high and sharp but I find it so unpleasant on the ear It’s not the best recording for that reason but I still think the song itself is one of the best she’s ever done. I like that for once she went with relatively modern sounding production. The same thing happened with Push, it’s a good song, just a bad recording. The way that a lot of people feel about Birdie is the way I feel about IFILWTD. I just don’t like it that much. I find it really depressing to listen to and I just don’t care to listen to songs like that.
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Post by orangesky on Jan 8, 2020 21:26:03 GMT
In regards to the album listing, it's not just a vague sad songs first then happy ones later, it's a literal track by track story so DB's placing fits well for me.
HAW - She's in a bad situation and praying to be saved, unable to help herself - "can't part the waves, can't see the shore" Birdie - She feels trapped, asking "how can I escape?" and wanting to "fly away." She wants to escape - "I'm not your prisoner" - But... IFILWTD - ...even knowing her relationship is unhealthy she can't stop getting pulled in, she's not strong enough to escape herself - "someone send me an angel" TMIO - She wants out of her situation but is still relying on the other person ending it because she isn't strong enough and is fully acknowledging that "I just can't do this myself" DB- The turning point! Finally she reaches breaking point and gets angry. Now that she's snapped she gets some confidence back - "i'm a babe, I'm a boss" - and walks away. IWIM - She realises the strength to get through difficult times was in her all along and she should have been looking inward instead of relying on others to save her Souvenir - She gets into a summer romance now that she's in a better place and wants it to continue - "Can I keep you as a souvenir?" Crush - She realises the depth of her feelings for this new person and how vulnerable that makes her feel - "my heart is yours to steal" - after being so badly hurt Goddess - Despite her fears she learns to open up to someone who treats her well -"he's so sweet, he's so giving" -and is almost silly with happiness - "I was lost til you found me" Bigger Wow - Her enthusiasm for life and adventure returns now she's feeling confident and supported - "We'll light up all of Vegas and never will unplug it," "unafraid of those heights" Love Me Insane - Now, with her fear and issues from her past bad situations gone, she's ready to throw herself fully into her relationship - "it's a dangerous game," "I'm going all out" Warrior - She looks back over everything that happened, realising how strong she is - "I know I'm gonna win the war" - and ready for the future - "ready with my shield and sword"
I think every song's place was chosen very carefully to show a journey song by song, not just vaguely sad to happy
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jan 8, 2020 21:37:16 GMT
I'm with you iTunes: # 38 Indonesia # 61 Nueva Zelanda # 452 Reino Unido # 480 Estados Unidos Apple Music: #84 papau Nueva Guinea Twitter Effect!
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Post by delmatico on Jan 8, 2020 22:50:50 GMT
It's not about high notes, I guess. I like high notes in When You're Gone, I'm With You and similar.... I like Push.
There is difference how she sings in songs like When You're Gone, I'm With You, Hush Hush, Fall to Pieces and in the Birdie. I don't know how to express myself
Maybe I found way to explain it. I like how she sings chorus in the It Was In Me, but don't like how she sings in the Birdie, Can you hear difference? Maybe it is about way how she sings, maybe it is about how she pronunce words, maybe it is about production, notes, keys, I dont know.
I most dislike this part of the song: I ain't your prisoner You can't lock me up no more I'll show you what I'm worth Take back what I deserve I ain't your prisoner You can't chain me down no more Goddamn, it's gonna hurt So fly away, little bird
Lyrics are good, but way how she pronunces or sings it, it's little irritating to my ears
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Post by birdie2020 on Jan 8, 2020 22:57:16 GMT
Maybe it's a presentation thing? Like IWIM is gently sung, but Birdie is forceful with feeling. For me, this part of Birdie is the strongest/most powerful because of the force of her voice behind it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 9, 2020 0:39:53 GMT
Her vocals for whatever reason sound very harsh on Birdie, kind of strained maybe? Maybe the notes were too high for her, like Push was, so her vocals came out sounding strained and screechy. I think that’s why people don’t like Birdie. As I said, it’s the specific vocal recording I think that makes people dislike it, not necessarily the song itself.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jan 9, 2020 8:07:58 GMT
I find it very nasaly and as Bogo said, kinda strained the vocals on the chorus. I like the song, i don't see it as amasterpiece anymore, but who knows how it will grow after years. But yeah, the chorus is the thing that seems off to me. she sounds like going throught hell to sing those notes. And she can sing highr ro maybe it was the effects?
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Post by Jinkxx on Jan 9, 2020 11:37:32 GMT
In regards to the album listing, it's not just a vague sad songs first then happy ones later, it's a literal track by track story so DB's placing fits well for me. HAW - She's in a bad situation and praying to be saved, unable to help herself - "can't part the waves, can't see the shore" Birdie - She feels trapped, asking "how can I escape?" and wanting to "fly away." She wants to escape - "I'm not your prisoner" - But... IFILWTD - ...even knowing her relationship is unhealthy she can't stop getting pulled in, she's not strong enough to escape herself - "someone send me an angel" TMIO - She wants out of her situation but is still relying on the other person ending it because she isn't strong enough and is fully acknowledging that "I just can't do this myself" DB- The turning point! Finally she reaches breaking point and gets angry. Now that she's snapped she gets some confidence back - "i'm a babe, I'm a boss" - and walks away. IWIM - She realises the strength to get through difficult times was in her all along and she should have been looking inward instead of relying on others to save her Souvenir - She gets into a summer romance now that she's in a better place and wants it to continue - "Can I keep you as a souvenir?" Crush - She realises the depth of her feelings for this new person and how vulnerable that makes her feel - "my heart is yours to steal" - after being so badly hurt Goddess - Despite her fears she learns to open up to someone who treats her well -"he's so sweet, he's so giving" -and is almost silly with happiness - "I was lost til you found me" Bigger Wow - Her enthusiasm for life and adventure returns now she's feeling confident and supported - "We'll light up all of Vegas and never will unplug it," "unafraid of those heights" Love Me Insane - Now, with her fear and issues from her past bad situations gone, she's ready to throw herself fully into her relationship - "it's a dangerous game," "I'm going all out" Warrior - She looks back over everything that happened, realising how strong she is - "I know I'm gonna win the war" - and ready for the future - "ready with my shield and sword" I think every song's place was chosen very carefully to show a journey song by song, not just vaguely sad to happy YES this!!! Now I want to listen to the album again!!
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Post by Limbo Messiah on Jan 13, 2020 1:03:12 GMT
great documentary about Avril's career over this last decade. I love how they explored the Head Above Water (album) concept. That's actually really good! I was already worried to find many of those awkward interviews in it where she just talks about how she and Chaaaaad came together. Good work from avrilmidia!
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 13, 2020 16:23:28 GMT
I know it’s a long shot of ever happening but I would really love it if Avril had a documentary special of some sort, like how Taylor is doing one with Netflix and Justin Bieber has announced a 10-part series with YouTube. Avril could have easily done something like that with her Lyme recovery and making HAW, or even after the album was released, her travels on the road and seeing the fans again. I wish she would do some kind of in-depth documentary special like that. She’s not popular enough for Netflix at this point, but maybe YouTube? Like Demi did with Simply Complicated.
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Post by gabbox on Jan 13, 2020 19:21:39 GMT
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 13, 2020 19:26:18 GMT
Honestly it wouldn’t shock me if they are. As I posted in the Random Avril thread, he keeps showing up in the background of her stories, even when the rest of the band isn’t around. Just like all her other relationships, I doubt this one will last. Especially because he’s like 10+ years younger than her.
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Post by biggerwow on Jan 13, 2020 20:12:19 GMT
what tastes 🙄 exactly. I doubt age really matters to HTNGU Avril. As long as she doesn't go "let's go in the studio together!" I don't wanna know anything. It's her personal life and she hasn't made it public herself.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 13, 2020 20:40:25 GMT
what tastes 🙄 exactly. I doubt age really matters to HTNGU Avril. As long as she doesn't go "let's go in the studio together!" I don't wanna know anything. It's her personal life and she hasn't made it public herself. More like as long as she doesn’t rush into a marriage with him lol
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Post by gabbox on Jan 13, 2020 20:45:49 GMT
Can we officially say she’s become a MILF? Lord.
That guy gives me the idea of the teenager who doesn’t even believe himself and he’s bragging about it with his friends.
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