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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 22:00:51 GMT
Really?? Why?? I see you also like Lana del Rey so the slower songs must not be something you dislike. I LOVE the album and tbh, since I think it's so amazing I'm a bit worried what will come next. But slightly a bit since she mostly satisfy me with her music. But everyone has their own opinion so what is so terrible about HAW in your opinion? Aw I know right! But for me I prefer Lana's fast songs and for the slower ones it's more the content I like (for example, I like her work but dislike the genre as a whole) than anything else. I thought Avril's lyrics could have been much stronger, like: "Tell me it's over, if it's really over / 'Cause it don't feel like it's over whenever you're closing the door / So tell me it's over if it's really over / 'Cause every time you come over it doesn't feel over no more / So tell me it's over" bothered me, and things like "ba ba ba ba ba bigger, na na na, na na na b-bigger, na na na, na na na b-bigger wow" and some of the strange pronunciations of words in other songs annoyed me lol BUT with that being said, again, I love her and I am waiting for her next drop! This time, the sound and lyrics just weren't for me. I thought the lyrics were a massive improvement on this album. Her lyrics haven’t always been the strongest over the previous albums. And I think there’s been a conscious effort on her part to improve them as it is something she has been criticised about before. Sure the lyrics in BW are a bit dodgy but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with TMIO.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 17, 2020 3:42:59 GMT
As much as I love TMIO, I agree the lyrics on the chorus could have been way better and less repetitive.
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Post by abbeylavigne97 on Feb 18, 2020 12:57:23 GMT
I still love this album. I don't think I'll ever feel differently about it. Listening from start to finish blows me away. On the anniversary, the first few tracks really hit me as I wasn't in a great mood, but by the end of the album, I genuinely felt lighter and happier. That's the magic of this album.
Individually though, I'm quite bored of Warrior now, I have to be in the mood for It Was In Me, and I still can't stand Love Me Insane outside the context of the album.
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Post by eragon7 on Feb 18, 2020 19:39:38 GMT
In regards to the album listing, it's not just a vague sad songs first then happy ones later, it's a literal track by track story so DB's placing fits well for me.
HAW - She's in a bad situation and praying to be saved, unable to help herself - "can't part the waves, can't see the shore" Birdie - She feels trapped, asking "how can I escape?" and wanting to "fly away." She wants to escape - "I'm not your prisoner" - But... IFILWTD - ...even knowing her relationship is unhealthy she can't stop getting pulled in, she's not strong enough to escape herself - "someone send me an angel" TMIO - She wants out of her situation but is still relying on the other person ending it because she isn't strong enough and is fully acknowledging that "I just can't do this myself" DB- The turning point! Finally she reaches breaking point and gets angry. Now that she's snapped she gets some confidence back - "i'm a babe, I'm a boss" - and walks away. IWIM - She realises the strength to get through difficult times was in her all along and she should have been looking inward instead of relying on others to save her Souvenir - She gets into a summer romance now that she's in a better place and wants it to continue - "Can I keep you as a souvenir?" Crush - She realises the depth of her feelings for this new person and how vulnerable that makes her feel - "my heart is yours to steal" - after being so badly hurt Goddess - Despite her fears she learns to open up to someone who treats her well -"he's so sweet, he's so giving" -and is almost silly with happiness - "I was lost til you found me" Bigger Wow - Her enthusiasm for life and adventure returns now she's feeling confident and supported - "We'll light up all of Vegas and never will unplug it," "unafraid of those heights" Love Me Insane - Now, with her fear and issues from her past bad situations gone, she's ready to throw herself fully into her relationship - "it's a dangerous game," "I'm going all out" Warrior - She looks back over everything that happened, realising how strong she is - "I know I'm gonna win the war" - and ready for the future - "ready with my shield and sword"
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Post by orangesky on Feb 18, 2020 20:48:02 GMT
TMIO's chorus has never bothered me. The whole song is about being stuck in a loop anyway, breaking up and making up, so repeating the same word a lot makes sense. It gives the sense of her going round in circles
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Post by Duwod on Feb 19, 2020 1:03:00 GMT
TMIO's chorus has never bothered me. The whole song is about being stuck in a loop anyway, breaking up and making up, so repeating the same word a lot makes sense. It gives the sense of her going round in circles That‘s exactly what I think as well.
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Post by birdie2020 on Feb 19, 2020 1:09:24 GMT
I still love this album. I don't think I'll ever feel differently about it. Listening from start to finish blows me away. On the anniversary, the first few tracks really hit me as I wasn't in a great mood, but by the end of the album, I genuinely felt lighter and happier. That's the magic of this album.
Individually though, I'm quite bored of Warrior now, I have to be in the mood for It Was In Me, and I still can't stand Love Me Insane outside the context of the album. Exactly!!! You go on that journey with her through the album and feel the highs and lows. By the end, you feel uplifted. It always puts me in a better mood. It's inspiring. Individually I like the songs when they pop up on the playlist, but the real "magic" is the album experience.
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Post by Duwod on Feb 19, 2020 1:12:41 GMT
Wow.. already a year of HAW. Time passed really fast since the release. I remember getting excited in 2017 when Avril first teased her new project and the times when nothing came and I was sitting there waiting for her to come up with something. I remember being incredibly happy with her song Fly and that she did it for the Special Olympics. How proud I felt when she performed it at the opening ceremony. And when she finally started teasing HAW the single I got so happy. Back then she posted a 30 seconds Snipped of the song and I was so in love and when it finally released I immediately sent it to a good friend who also loved Avril and we were so excited about it. After TMIO I finally decided to join BA and I‘m so glad I did because now I finally see people enjoying her work as much as I do. (Even though we complain a lot. we still love her) It was an exciting time even though it had its ups and downs I decided to look only at the ups. I hope she doesn’t take too long (haha..) for her next project and wish everyone a great time until then.
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Post by birdie2020 on Feb 19, 2020 1:19:08 GMT
We're technically still in the HAW era right? I mean new tour kicking off soon. It's hard to believe it's still coming. I mean we had the video release in 2018 . Looking forward to seeing all of the comments from BA for those who go on the tour and seeing the new performace videos.
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Post by TomX on Feb 19, 2020 13:01:01 GMT
This era is pretty much dead, despite the upcoming leg of the "Greatest Hits" tour...
Hoping AL7 will be better in all aspects.
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Post by katy on Feb 19, 2020 17:27:58 GMT
Yeah this eras been very underwhelming. Shame cos the albums very good, hasn’t had the attention it deserved from her. She seems all excited to release new music then once it’s out it’s like it never even happened lol. Very odd.
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Post by Anti on Feb 19, 2020 21:53:34 GMT
Yeah this eras been very underwhelming. Shame cos the albums very good, hasn’t had the attention it deserved from her. She seems all excited to release new music then once it’s out it’s like it never even happened lol. Very odd. Not sure how it’s odd. Look at the label she’s on, and she’s indie. The album opened with 20,000. At the end of the day, it’s all ROI. Nobody, including Avril, wants to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in vain of a longer era. They tried with Tell Me It’s Over and the Nicki feature on Dumb Blonde. Nothing took off, and IFILWTD was a nice treat for the fans. I would keep expectations low, because I think 3 videos is pretty gracious considering the sales of the album.
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Post by Duwod on Feb 19, 2020 21:58:04 GMT
Let’s just enjoy the last bit of this era. ^.^
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Post by birdie2020 on Feb 19, 2020 22:08:47 GMT
I do agree that the promo/release part of the era is over, but to me, the era isn't finished until she has stopped touring for the album. I agree the tour is mainly "greatest hits" and not really promo for the new album, but we did get 6 different songs off of the album in the US leg, about 3 at each concert in rotation (for comparison's sake, she did 5 songs off of AL at the concert I saw during that era...). I think the delay between September single release/video, then December TMIO video, then finally getting the album in February killed some hype for the release. Wish there had been more attention to it outside of the existing fan base, but it's still a great album. Listened to it again in full today and it still holds up for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 0:59:26 GMT
Yeah this eras been very underwhelming. Shame cos the albums very good, hasn’t had the attention it deserved from her. She seems all excited to release new music then once it’s out it’s like it never even happened lol. Very odd. Not sure how it’s odd. Look at the label she’s on, and she’s indie. The album opened with 20,000. At the end of the day, it’s all ROI. Nobody, including Avril, wants to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in vain of a longer era. They tried with Tell Me It’s Over and the Nicki feature on Dumb Blonde. Nothing took off, and IFILWTD was a nice treat for the fans. I would keep expectations low, because I think 3 videos is pretty gracious considering the sales of the album. I think she lost momentum around GL. The music scene changed around then. Guitar music is no longer in and Avril hasn’t changed her sound to suit what’s popular (although you could argue HAW isn’t as guitar heavy as previous albums). But why should she change. Sure I’d like her to be more popular and get the recognition she deserves as this as a good album. Or would I want her to change her sound like Taylor, Katy have or do music like Bieber? Probably not. I think Bieber is awful by the way. But then I’m old and spose this is slightly off topic 🤪
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