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Post by UnderAlexSkin on Jun 30, 2020 17:00:27 GMT
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Post by biggerwow on Jun 30, 2020 20:50:33 GMT
Guys look. Do you like it better like this delmatico? 2:56 old bridge? 😳 Avril react to this would be cool. It sounds edgier with electric guitar and his voice. Both versions sound wonderful. Also, has the HAW album thread always been below? I thought it was pinned on top.
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Post by orangesky on Jun 30, 2020 21:46:47 GMT
lmao He makes is sound so angry in the chorus. Definitely prefer her version personally. I think this goes to show how much lyrics get changed and how easy it is to mix things up or forget them between recording the final version and coming to perform it.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jun 30, 2020 22:04:56 GMT
OMG I LOVE IT. The bridge it's amazing! (idk if better but it's really good).
I kinda wish it would be more edgy now, rockier u know, aghh. I
I like how gentle and sweet she sings it, but idk, it's something about hearing him sing it that raspiness and anger that captivates you.
Omg, maybe at some point bigger wow was ballad, 😱
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Post by orangesky on Jun 30, 2020 22:16:29 GMT
Being angry doesn't suit the song though. It's about feeling vulnerable with someone new, being afraid you'll get hurt but wanting to open up anyway and learning to trust a new person because maybe this relationship really is as good as it seems. She's not threatening to guy not to crush her lol
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 30, 2020 22:47:22 GMT
I have to agree I don't really like Zane's version, he's trying to make the song sound alternative rock but it's not how the song was meant to sound. I much prefer Avril's version. I feel like he should have at least changed the key to suit his own voice.
I am interested to hear more about the original bridge though and it's interesting to hear how much the lyrics were changed over the course of writing. I still find it odd how she worked with him for months but this was the only song from their sessions to make the cut. I wonder what else they wrote together.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:55:53 GMT
I think she was dating him?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 1, 2020 0:04:22 GMT
I think she was dating him? I’m pretty sure Zane is married lol You’re thinking of JR Rotem, the co-writer/producer of Birdie. He was another one she worked with for months but only 1 song made the cut, though it could be attributed to their breakup. Why Zanes songs were cut is a mystery though.
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Post by biggerwow on Jul 1, 2020 0:09:24 GMT
No it seems they are just friends. I do wonder how the relationship came about though. Was he hired, suggested, did she suggest it? I like hearing those stories.
I don't think he was trying to make it rockier. Maybe that's how he is, I've never heard his music so idk. But he was on some kind of electric guitar. I think it's just his voice that makes the song edgy. If Avril would have been there to sing it and he played the guitar on a level closer to her softer voice and vulnerable lyrics, it could sound amazing. Similar to when Halsey stripped down Nightmare with just an electric guitar or Taylor stripped Wildest Dreams.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jul 1, 2020 0:20:50 GMT
i'm sorry i just like hearing different versions of the song xD i guess that's why i got so excited, it was just new lol xD my definition of "feeding fans well" would be releasing 3-4 versions of the same song, plus 2 demos, a comentary podcast explaining in details the lyrics and the composition process, the a music video for every freaking song on the album ('cause in this universe there won't be filler songs). A behind the scenes for every music video (30 minutes minimum). A documentary of the era, "avril answers 100 questions", and them maybe some remixes, aocustic performances and a good album release, like how kpop artists release their albums, if you don't know...they're incredible (expensive but amazingly well done). i think Taylor did something similar with Reputation but not sure. and then i will be fine xD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 1:56:15 GMT
I think she was dating him? I’m pretty sure Zane is married lol You’re thinking of JR Rotem, the co-writer/producer of Birdie. He was another one she worked with for months but only 1 song made the cut, though it could be attributed to their breakup. Why Zanes songs were cut is a mystery though. As frisky as Avy is, you never can tell.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 1, 2020 13:08:37 GMT
No it seems they are just friends. I do wonder how the relationship came about though. Was he hired, suggested, did she suggest it? I like hearing those stories. I don't think he was trying to make it rockier. Maybe that's how he is, I've never heard his music so idk. But he was on some kind of electric guitar. I think it's just his voice that makes the song edgy. If Avril would have been there to sing it and he played the guitar on a level closer to her softer voice and vulnerable lyrics, it could sound amazing. Similar to when Halsey stripped down Nightmare with just an electric guitar or Taylor stripped Wildest Dreams. I believe their relationship came about because he too actually had Lyme disease. I know he has talked before about how they met and started working together but I can’t recall. They probably met somewhere or were introduced by a mutual friend. Zane mentioned he had also had Lyme disease and was giving her advice I think.
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Post by katy on Jul 1, 2020 20:56:54 GMT
No it seems they are just friends. I do wonder how the relationship came about though. Was he hired, suggested, did she suggest it? I like hearing those stories. I don't think he was trying to make it rockier. Maybe that's how he is, I've never heard his music so idk. But he was on some kind of electric guitar. I think it's just his voice that makes the song edgy. If Avril would have been there to sing it and he played the guitar on a level closer to her softer voice and vulnerable lyrics, it could sound amazing. Similar to when Halsey stripped down Nightmare with just an electric guitar or Taylor stripped Wildest Dreams. I believe their relationship came about because he too actually had Lyme disease. I know he has talked before about how they met and started working together but I can’t recall. They probably met somewhere or were introduced by a mutual friend. Zane mentioned he had also had Lyme disease and was giving her advice I think. Nothing throws me off course more on this forum than when you change your avatar!
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 1, 2020 21:13:54 GMT
Hehe I felt like it was time for a change
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Post by pllforlife on Jul 2, 2020 0:18:02 GMT
Guys look. Do you like it better like this delmatico? 2:56 old bridge? 😳 Avril react to this would be cool. It sounds edgier with electric guitar and his voice. Both versions sound wonderful. Also, has the HAW album thread always been below? I thought it was pinned on top. Wtf was that lol.
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