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Post by ame · 雨 on Nov 19, 2020 19:56:35 GMT
Could you imagine she had TMIO as the lead single?? LOL. I love the song but it's obviosu that head above water was the perfect choice for the lead single.
I still think the name of the album was not the best one tho... maybe "warrior" was a better option, even tho i hate the concept and how ambigous it is but i just don't like albums that have the same name as one of the songs in that album. TBDT for instance, everyone forgets about the song, in this era's case, you associate the name more with the song. It's like we have to say "HAW era" to make sure we're talking about the album as a whole or always say "haw album" which is annoying as hell xD
I do get that it has promo purposes: people searching the song will also find the album. I get that...but still.
And let's not talk about the cover art again...'cause i always get angry xD
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Post by TomX on Nov 20, 2020 11:54:06 GMT
Agreed, it always annoyed me that an album was named after a song because there’s always that “era” , “album” clarification you have to add to not sound ambiguous.
And yeah, that album cover never convinced me. It’s definitely at the bottom of least favorite covers with the AL one. She took so many gorgeous pictures on that photoshoot, like the ones wearing that black knitted, slightly ripped sweater that are the best shots she’s taken for this era, but she went with that random choice. Her face is expressionless and it’s like she’s about to haunt you in your nightmares lol. It’s just ridiculous. I get the sentiment behind it and how she felt naked and her only strength was her guitar, but there were so many other shots she could’ve tried...
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 20, 2020 13:04:59 GMT
I don’t think the photo or concept itself is bad but rather the editing. The way she’s sitting in the water doesn’t look natural. It’s as if the water was added in later, cause when you’re sitting in water you should “sink” into it, if you know what I mean and she isn’t really. It looks almost like she’s sitting on top of the water. Unless the idea is that she’s supposed to be like Jesus now and can walk on water lmfao
I don’t mind album titles that share a song name, I don’t honestly get the big deal lol She actually hasn’t done it that often anyway, only 2 albums have a title track.
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Post by pllforlife on Nov 20, 2020 13:27:41 GMT
I don’t think the photo or concept itself is bad but rather the editing. The way she’s sitting in the water doesn’t look natural. It’s as if the water was added in later, cause when you’re sitting in water you should “sink” into it, if you know what I mean and she isn’t really. It looks almost like she’s sitting on top of the water. Unless the idea is that she’s supposed to be like Jesus now and can walk on water lmfao I don’t mind album titles that share a song name, I don’t honestly get the big deal lol She actually hasn’t done it that often anyway, only 2 albums have a title track. Her face looked so plastic on the cover too. The single cover was perfect.... the album cover. Oof
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Post by ame · 雨 on Nov 20, 2020 13:52:15 GMT
Oh no...the single cover? That was awful too. OK let's close this topic before it gets ugly lol haha i have pretty strong feelings about her pictures this era. Only TMIO and DB covers were ok. And that ripped blouse photoshoot as well was pretty. Even the Devil photshoot was kinda weird.
She's definitely not a "model" BUT geez, why can't she pose "normal"¿? lol, like...GL cover?? WTH?? she had so many pretty pictures on the piano and she chose the one in which she looks like a frog about to take a leap.
Anyways, going back to the cover. The "composition" isn't bad, and the idea either. It's just that....that lighting (if you can call it like that cause it doesn't seem there was intentional at all) and that extremely bad photoshop work....Jesus...it's just painful to watch. And the single cover it's basically the same. I've seen SO many beautiful underwater pictures that the single cover just feels straight outta 70's where photoshop didn't exist. Even one of the music videos where she was underwater was WAY better as a cover than that. I think it's Danneedshugs who has a screenshot from that scene, and it looks pretty.
She needs to hire someone better for the job, seriously. A 14yo kid can make a better job than what's been done this era in terms of photography.
I'm mad at her 'cause it just takes the bare minimum to take a good picture lol xD
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Post by ame · 雨 on Nov 20, 2020 13:58:52 GMT
I don’t think the photo or concept itself is bad but rather the editing. The way she’s sitting in the water doesn’t look natural. It’s as if the water was added in later, cause when you’re sitting in water you should “sink” into it, if you know what I mean and she isn’t really. It looks almost like she’s sitting on top of the water. Unless the idea is that she’s supposed to be like Jesus now and can walk on water lmfao I don’t mind album titles that share a song name, I don’t honestly get the big deal lol She actually hasn’t done it that often anyway, only 2 albums have a title track. I always assumed that the waters weren't too deep (?) like that part of the pool where it's basically not even covering your feet but there is still water, u know?? I think that's why we see only a bit of the guitar sinked. If I'm not wrong, i think she said the pictures were taken at her pool right? So that would make sense. Those reflections could also be the trees from her garden if it's not enterily photshop obviously. Also, her head looks extremely big. it's basically " HEAD above water"
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Post by eismann on Nov 20, 2020 14:49:31 GMT
Ame, this was my favourite rant in this forum so far! I agree with everything you said and it just kills me how big her head looks... The album cover is the worst she has ever done.
I'm just not sure how much saying she has in choosing the cover. I know with books it's usually the management/publisher choosing the cover (and often also the title) and the author just has a veto. So it may not be entirely her (bad) decision but someone else.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Nov 20, 2020 15:07:44 GMT
Considering how ugly the cover is, it was probably just her lol xD i'm kidding but i don't see any professional or manager or important person, choosing that cover, (or AL). Like, someone in the industry i think would be able to tell what an ugly cover looks like.
But if she's surrounded by friends that kiss her ass, they all probably were like: "Yasss queen!! tTToOtaaLLyY agree with you, that is THE cover. SLAYeeee!! (haven't you tried a skater board instead of a guitar btw??)"
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Post by HeiBai on Nov 20, 2020 17:55:56 GMT
She's definitely not a "model" BUT geez, why can't she pose "normal"¿? lol, like...GL cover?? WTH?? she had so many pretty pictures on the piano and she chose the one in which she looks like a frog about to take a leap. Oof. I don’t think the photo or concept itself is bad but rather the editing. The way she’s sitting in the water doesn’t look natural. It’s as if the water was added in later, cause when you’re sitting in water you should “sink” into it, if you know what I mean and she isn’t really. It looks almost like she’s sitting on top of the water. Unless the idea is that she’s supposed to be like Jesus now and can walk on water lmfao Anyways, going back to the cover. The "composition" isn't bad, and the idea either. It's just that....that lighting (if you can call it like that cause it doesn't seem there was intentional at all) and that extremely bad photoshop work....Jesus...it's just painful to watch. Agreed. I don't necessarily think the concept is bad and I don't even dislike the cover as it is, I just think the editing on it is somewhat painful. A few weeks ago me and a friend found a high res scan of the cover and were joking about how fake the entire thing looks when you zoom in and examine details (weird shadows that are very evenly placed in an overlapping pattern, the water looking like it was added later and how awkward it looks with the hand almost floating on it, even the guitar looks somewhat pasted in).
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Post by orangesky on Nov 20, 2020 19:53:36 GMT
I don't love the cover because it looks kind of cold and boring. Her pose is a bit stiff and awkward. AL is the worst (as it is with all things). I don't get why people are hating it SO much though and trying to pick apart the editing on it. Everyone talks about stuff like that now but honestly I don't even notice stuff like that. Does anyone look at album covers that closely?
I was surprised when people made fun of the GL cover too though just because they don't seem to understand the pose she's sitting in. I remember people being all "omG thEy PhoTOShOppEd OuT Her FoOt!" just because they couldn't see it. No, it's just tucked under, not in the same position as her other foot/leg. Same with the HAW single cover. Her head's too big, her hair is blurry. Yeah, that's how things look in water.
I would agree the other photos would have made for more interesting covers. The black and white didn't do it for me more than anything
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Post by ame · 雨 on Nov 21, 2020 4:46:02 GMT
Hair doesn't look necesarilly blurred underwater tho. This pic right here above that rulezz posted is the proof. It looks blurry only if the water is moving fast or the model. But still, the cover of the single is one of her worst as well. It's not the "idea" or the pose, it looks pretty bad photoshopped. (same goes with WAW single cover)
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Post by katy on Nov 21, 2020 9:49:34 GMT
like...GL cover?? WTH?? she had so many pretty pictures on the piano and she chose the one in which she looks like a frog about to take a leap. LOL this is spot on!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 11:16:02 GMT
Always hated the GL album cover it looks awkward! The AL album cover is good, shame about the album. I cringed when I first saw the HAW album cover, finally here she is with a serious sounding album in years and she poses naked behind a guitar. Just thought it gives the impression the album is rockier than what it is. I guess she was going for the album is a ‘stripped down’ vibe. Always preferred the picture of her sat on the edge of a billboard for TBDT than the actual album cover. Too pink!
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Post by curdey on Nov 23, 2020 11:34:08 GMT
I honestly don’t think Avril’s had a GREAT album cover since Under My Skin, and her last GOOD album cover was Avril Lavigne. I have ALWAYS thought The Best Damn Thing album cover should’ve been the photo of her above the billboard, Goodbye Lullaby’s whole entire shoot is just “no”, there’s no picture I would’ve used from that set, and for Head Above Water, the friggin actual water shots would’ve been SO much better!
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