violetvisions
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Post by violetvisions on Feb 12, 2019 0:18:10 GMT
Sad to see it coming down like this. This forum now is A LOT better than the last one was- especially towards the end. When I came back it was nice to see old members as well as new here. There was a familiarity.
It’s easy to forget, but we are all human. We all come from different backgrounds, cultures, and we all have struggles. When talking to someone here, remember that there is someone behind that screen. Respect and be kind to each other.
I wish I could throw in my name to help with the staff, but I don’t know what it all entails or that I qualify. If push comes to shove, I’ll be more than happy to see how I can help.
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lavigneteam
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Post by lavigneteam on Feb 12, 2019 0:21:16 GMT
How can we keep avrilbandaids going? I love you staff!!
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sammy2010
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Post by sammy2010 on Feb 12, 2019 0:59:57 GMT
Would be sorry to see it from. Its nice to see most opinions and discussions that go on. Though, if I were an admin there would have been a couple times (actually more than a couple) that I thought you were like teachers in a nursery school having to deal with a bunch of cranky kids.
We all should remember it's a multi national forum. Nasty responses to comments aren't necessary. (yes some people are nasty here). People who admin don't deserve to spend their free time monitoring people who can't play nice.
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rocket32
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Post by rocket32 on Feb 12, 2019 1:20:34 GMT
Two years ago I told you guys aka staff that you guys will crush the forum in 2-3 years, funny how non of you stuff members, can see what is wrong with your behavior, and for you to be here,saying that you guys will close the fourm, cuz of people, I'm sorry but how dare you? People are tired of sucking your dicks, of your double standarts and of your dragging memebers. And you still are here saying that is members foult, it's not!! Own up your actions instead of blaming pepople for your fail. None of you 13 staff members know how to run things, that's why forum it is how it is, most of staff mambers are nothing but group of ingorant judgmental bullies who are running forum for wrong reasons. You brought one of the greates forums among all fandoms, so down. Shame on you! Don't you EVER, EVER dare to blame people for what is happening!! That's why forum is crushing, instead of taking your repsonisbilites for what you did to peopole and forum, you are here blaming others?!? DON't YOU EVER. If you can't see why forum is going down, maybe is time for you guys to leave it. And for you to try guilt trip people into thinkig that's their foult, can see that you become even more manipulative. Proof of the staff acting this way? When throwing things like dragging members, ignorant, judgemental, bullies, liars, manipulative, etc, around you should be able to back it up. Of course no one else knows what goes on in the PM’s except the staff and member involved but I have never seen any moderator act how you describe publicly. Now I haven’t been here for years and years to know the history of this forum but if what you say is true should it really take years to see it myself? Based on your complete lack of evidence to support your claims, what I’ve seen myself, and the apparent lack of agreement from other regulars I’ve seen here in the time I’ve been here I’m sorry if I won’t just take your word for it. Maybe the staff have been coming off a bit rude in PM’s lately, idk, but maybe it’s out of frustration from dealing with the toxic behavior and messages to them. Your post leads me to believe you probably haven’t exactly been the most polite and respectful to them yourself. That’s a problem with society these days in general though, some people like to throw damaging and attacking accusations around without providing any evidence of what they say being true. From what I’ve seen the staff is doing a fine job except for letting people get a bit too out of line lately.
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BogoGog24
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 12, 2019 1:29:08 GMT
To those wondering about what being a staff member involves, I’m sure you could PM Blizz or any of the other staff and ask. Of course it depends what your role is, but I remember that was a concern of mine as well, having enough free time to devote to it, etc. It really isn’t as difficult as you might think. For example with being a moderator, there’s a forum tool that alerts you to reported posts and you can choose an action from there like sending a PM, warning, etc. It really makes it a lot easier.
This is also a good time to mention that the staff has talked about promoting the report button more. A large part of the reason things have spiraled out of control lately is that people see a controversial post and just reply and it keeps going back and forth instead of just reporting it and moving on. Part of the problem is that the mods can’t possibly see every post in every thread so reporting posts alerts them to what they need to see and helps them take action immediately. This is also a good idea if you see people posting about illegal downloads/leaks, the staff can remove the post immediately.
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Post by nosyhobbit on Feb 12, 2019 2:01:43 GMT
If I wasn't working full time I would offer help if needed staff-wise. however I can absolutely be more vigilant and report whenever I see something that breaks the rules. It's probably silly out of context, but I've shared so much joy with you guys throughout this adventure and I would be so sad if the forum was gone. I visit daily to catch up and it's so much better than facebook!
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panop
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Post by panop on Feb 12, 2019 2:01:52 GMT
Feels like a kind form of threat....
Asking the members (the lot)...to understand the few..or else....
There are two sides...! Why should someone take under consideration only for one of them... Only one side to try walk in the other ones shoes but the other one not to...? The answer is someplace in the middle.
Not only one point of view...
The wrong way to handle things..yet again...at least in a polite form this time..with not bad intentions I think. But still not viewing the hall picture...just one side..and maybe just a little bit of the other one.
Better try to connect... receive respect (understanding) and not kind of manipulate, guilt force....and act like bitchy bosses(like in some comments through the years) Really guys..come on....
Respect it's supposed to be mutual.
I do appreciate the effort of the stuff...but in some cases.. things are not being handled right..not at all. Not trying to judge or say that I would do better. Just describing what I'm witnessing.
So instead of doing this(with this thread...with what happened to the album thread..with what is not happening when members fighting with each other...and more..), you should maybe find a common ground. Find common solution with your members...in a form of a thread or a poll..or both in this order).
Thank you for running this forum/site... because of your efforts there's a place that this community can exist...
People reactions..it's not what is making the environment toxic..the already existing toxicity in the environment it's what is causing their reaction. No one really reacts to nothing...when there is no trigger...reason.
Us members... common suspects or guest stars in here...we should all be polite to each other..and to those who run this site... ask for what we desire in a nice way... (Of course there's the need of visible improvement in our "disagreements/problems"..from both sides). Don't allow yourselfs to become bullies and don't allow yourself to be mistreated or fooled). That's my suggestion. Common.. COMMON understanding... consideration of both sides.
With New music on the horizon...now let's just all find peace in music. Enjoy... Let this "place" serve it's reason of existence.
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kilikina
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Post by kilikina on Feb 12, 2019 2:11:10 GMT
I know I don’t post much, if at all, but I’ve always enjoyed being able to access so much info and love for Avril here with bandaids. I would be sad if the forums had to close, but I would also understand, especially with the total lack of respect some people have been showing. Either way, thank you so much for being so wonderful and supportive of Avril and making a space for us to share that.
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lavigneteam
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Post by lavigneteam on Feb 12, 2019 2:14:22 GMT
I REALLY hope bandaids doesn't end up shutting down!
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Crush
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Post by Crush on Feb 12, 2019 3:05:29 GMT
I think it's quite simple - if you're trying to defend being a dick to the staff team then maybe you're part of the problem. I just don't get it - if it's against Proboards' rules then we can't do it. It's not to spite anyone or to be boring or annoying, that's just the rules we have to follow. It's not negatively impacting your life - chill. I mostly stopped posting because of how busy I am but also because I feel this has turned into a negative place. There are still some great discussions but I got fed up of the arguments and complaining too. If there's an issue then communicate in a respectable manner. Sure there will be misinterpretations via text or language barriers but just be polite. If you're a bully or give anyone abuse then you deserve to get banned. Absolutely baffled. (Pls don't close the forum) Me too... I'm not sure what's been up with some members lately but like you said, chilling out is the key. We're here for Avril, not to cause anyone discomfort. Hopefully the forum will be okay. <3
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Post by lajra on Feb 12, 2019 4:21:44 GMT
I am new here. I found this forum when I was looking for opinions of Italians from listening party. Unfortunately my first post was asking for a link to leak of Dumb Blonde. I didn't register here for that, I didn't even know that there were leaks of Dumb Blonde, so I see it harsh to ban people, who came here asking for snippets/leaks, cus you don't know their intention of coming here.
I am sorry to say it, but I see this thread like an attention drama. Forum toxicity affecting your real life? Sounds ridiculous, especially when it comes to be people not respecting you asking to stop sharing snippets/leaks. Many people, including me were/are excited for Avril's comeback, even more when it comes to the possibility of getting something more, than the album and it's totally understandable. She's been absent for few years. Try to imagine someone who's so hyped about new songs (from album or unreleased). He/she is hoping to get a link here, then some "bad" mod comes and tells people to stop sharing links. Do you know what comes next? Anger. Like... "wtf, why we can't share links, it's a fandom, that's so stupid, stop putting stupid rules", then people start to simply ignore what mod says. Next time state it better, if you say rules of proboard forbid that, PROVE IT, take a screenshot of such rule, quote it or whatever, otherwise people will think that what you say is a bullshit. Not everyone, especially during excitment thinks of searching it on his own. I am sure most of us would understand it better and we'd find another solution such as creating a chat on discord or twitter. Closing thread was the most stupid thing ever, especially that links existed there yet. It looked like you didn't really care about the rule, but you just wanted to close peoples' mouth, it was very unprofessional, there were other solutions, but you've decided to use the most ridiculous one. It's way easier to delete posts with links and if people ignore you, send them a private message with verbal warning that next time their account will be banned for 24 hours (example).
Instead of playing the victim of such bad community, think what you could change in yourself, as a forum leader. You are the one, who can limit toxicity on this forum, but instead you are here complaining how bad your life is lol. Someone insults you? Go ahead and ban him, break from forum, opening a window and breathing fresh air will make him feel better.
And don't threaten people of closing this forum. Seriously, nobody will beg you on his knees to keep it up. With today's possibilities forum can be re-created by anyone (no, im not going to do it, im just expressing my opinion!). It's only your fault for being so passive to bad things. Being admin or mod is a big responsibility, there will ALWAYS be people who misbehave and doing such drama threads won't change it. Deal with it. I doubt you are using internet since yesterday.
And please, don't take my comment as a hate, because I am absolutely not hating. I kinda understand your frustration, from my own experience as an admin from some bigger project.
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Jimmyzz
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Post by Jimmyzz on Feb 12, 2019 6:48:18 GMT
Hey Staff and Administrators,
I rarely if ever say much, but I just wanted to take moment to say 'THANK YOU' for all your time and effort running this forum!
If you have to go, I understand; but you will be missed!!!
Warmest regards,
Jimmyzz
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Post by ashique on Feb 12, 2019 7:04:50 GMT
Yep! They abused their “power” so much. It was awful! They even took to personal social media accounts to bully people. When? Where? Are you aware we are not the old Staff from Bandaids.com? I know nothing of this and implore that you show me evidence of it. I used to be an administrator in the old one, and I can attest that it is true. Some members even created another site called BandaidsExodus.com(i know LOL), but it's true.
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Post by ashique on Feb 12, 2019 7:09:34 GMT
I think I will repost what I shared in the new album group-
I'm sorry if I'm bringing it up again, but I have to say this-
I used to be an administrator in the old site, and I remember when Moderators used do what they're supposed to do- moderate. Illegal download links are an absolute no-no, but shutting an entire thread down is not going to stop leaks in any way. If there are indeed leaks, it should at the very least allowed to BE DISCUSSED. That's why we're a forum- because we have a discussion related to evrrything in Avril's career and that must include leaks(and how to stop them) . If forum rules are being broken persistently by a member or a group of members despite repeated warnings- remove their posts and ban them if necessary, but it doesn't justify everyone else being shut down as a consequence. It just doesn't create a healthy environment for discussions. With due respect to the current staff, as a previous administrator I can only remind them of how back then, we lost a LOT of active members here because some of the staff were so driven with power that bandaids was a very toxic place to be. I hope we can learn from our mistakes in the past and not repeat them.
Bandaids has always supported Avril for as long as her career has existed, and with proper moderation we can continue to do so and still be able to discuss every aspect of her career. Having said all that I know being a staff here is sometimes a challenging job, and everything you guys do is very much appreciated. 😊
OT can someone please tell me when is her next appearance?
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Becky
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Post by Becky on Feb 12, 2019 7:50:57 GMT
I think we've all got wrapped up in saying whether we agree with the mods or not (or somewhere in between) but I think the most helpful thing would be to say what we're unhappy with and what we want to change specifically.
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