Jinkxx
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Post by Jinkxx on Feb 12, 2019 9:58:36 GMT
Wow I did not saw this coming, didn't knew you guys (staff) felt this way.. It's sad! I don't want this to come to an end... I always enjoy the discussions and talk about Avril. It's the only place you can talk all Avril as much as you like!! Please don't end this. I was in 2006 on old BA and wanna have a place to connect with fans. I was sad old BA was gone till I found oud this was the new BA. Please guys consider to stay I think a lot of fans will be so devestated (is that correct grammar?) when this forum is shutting down... especially in times of these when all new things are coming! Facebook Bandaids isn't the same as the forums... Here you can discuss everything Please stay.
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Mohican.
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Post by Mohican. on Feb 12, 2019 10:24:06 GMT
When? Where? Are you aware we are not the old Staff from Bandaids.com? I know nothing of this and implore that you show me evidence of it. I used to be an administrator in the old one, and I can attest that it is true. Some members even created another site called BandaidsExodus.com(i know LOL), but it's true. Yes, I do remember BandaidsExodus.com and I know who'd launched it as well. I didn't catch the whole story for I was pretty inactive during that time (for reasons we are unfortunately heading to again - toxic atmosphere). I remember though, that a friend of mine launched it because he was banned from the offical one and he felt also quite sick about stuff that happened at the offical one. He wrote me in private to join. So a lot of my older friends and me included joined to keep on talking and exchanging in that old circle. I know that this site wasn't meant to tease the offical one, but a lot of the staff joined too at some point and that one friend who launched it in the first place shut it down again because of it. Some of the staff registered there just to keep on bashing.
That actually pretty killed it for me. I used to l o v e bandaids, with all the old active members that were really able to share and debate and were quietely one after the other driven away. Now it's not really the same anymore. A lotta people just state their opnion, but there's no real exchange like in the older days.
That being said, I don't direct this to any of the current staff, cause just like some already pointed out, the staff has changed since then and so many staff members now weren't even members back then.
And still I have to point out, that right now the fault lies more with the members than the staff. I think social communities can fail both ways. We've seen both options now. So it's really important that we all, staff and members, work together and not against one another.
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Sarah93
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Post by Sarah93 on Feb 12, 2019 10:28:02 GMT
And still I have to point out, that right now the fault lies more with the members than the staff. I think social communities can fail both ways. We've seen both options now. So it's really important that we all, staff and members, work together and not against one another.
Thank you very much
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fih
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Post by fih on Feb 12, 2019 10:49:00 GMT
I think we've all got wrapped up in saying whether we agree with the mods or not (or somewhere in between) but I think the most helpful thing would be to say what we're unhappy with and what we want to change specifically. I agree, I mean I won’t be here saying I didn’t want to listen to unreleased songs and stuff like that (just to mention one of the last big issues here) and also when the leaked snippets were out I told some people they could PM me but I always mentioned that there was no link at all, on the PMs I asked emails and so. But when the staff members said no PMs I didn’t reply anyone else. Again just to address to one of the last issues. But what I wanted to say is, as Becky mentioned now we should talk about what we think should change, I think members and moderators had strong opinions about the leaks and worked to make it stop. Great, that’s what should be done. But sometimes I feel that there’s a lack of “moderation” (I don’t know how to say it better) in lots of cases, that happen kinda in between the lines kinda not, for example as a bit of xenophobia, or people feeling superior over some others.. and also I’ve read lots about being disrespectful towards Avril about the leaks, but gosh when she started to date Phillip I didn’t see much action to prevent some people calling her “gold digger” and “stupid Hollywood person” or whatever similar to that (some things really made me feel uncomfortable), or really insulting her boyfriend just cause of his money even tho no one here knows him personally I believe, and I think that is also pretty disrespectful towards Avril and I’d like to see more action about those things as well! But in general I feel like people here are having a hard time accepting opinions, if someone says they like UMS it all turns into a huge fight cause some people can’t accept others like that album and everybody should agree it’s not good, for example. Same for AL5 or Fly or whatever. It’s never like “oh cool that you enjoy, it’s really nice if you like and can connect to it. I can’t, I don’t think it’s a nice song and I prefer others..” all I see is mostly “that song sucks, it’s awful the worst thing Avril has ever done, you may like it but you have to agree it’s shitty”. I think people should start thinking more before posting some things here
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Becky
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Post by Becky on Feb 12, 2019 13:33:17 GMT
It might not work in practice, but how about an "Ask the staff" thread simply for communicating about these subjects. I feel a lot of the time when the staff team close a thread or say the discussion needs to end etc people feel like they can't ask why. Because we don't see the discussion that may have taken place between the staff, the decision can sometimes look unreasonable or pointless. Staff have the final say and that's fine, but in light of all this tension it may be a good idea to open more dialogue because it looks like there is a "them Vs us" mentality right now. Plus if anyone is disrespectful or rude on there then it's easy to delete the posts, warn/ban members or simply close the thread for a day until things calm down. Just my 2 cents. With regards to opinions, everyone is allowed to hate songs or not like Avril's boyfriend or whatever, but there could be more emphasis on promoting respectful opinions. A forum is for discussing opinions 100% but if you can't put forward an opinion without being rude then you're probably not the best human. Jokes don't always translate perfectly via text either so if you're being funny then it might help to add in a (jk). Another point I feel is a reason why people don't report rude posts is that if someone has been rude to you personally then you want to say something. I think people should be allowed to have one reply to try and shut it down AND report the post, because there isn't always a need for staff intervention. If the rude poster carries on then yep best for the staff to intervene. Again, just my opinion.
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goodbye
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Post by goodbye on Feb 12, 2019 15:02:26 GMT
That's really sad to read. I hope the forum will excist and that everything gets better when the album is out but when not will there be an announcement and a Goodbye thread?
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Post by StrongSweet on Feb 13, 2019 4:18:11 GMT
No matter how many rules are set. A single one decide not to follow and then more people are dare to break them. I remember how many times I got banned from The Best Damn Thing Avrilbandaids. Although I understand the staff try not to take away the right of accessibility on here for the fans, some really not willing to respect it. Then I suggest Bandaids staff should restrict even more. More intense punishment, as well as remodify the standard of breaking rules for example, how to deal with the leaked materials, for anyone who publicly ask about should be immediately bannded. And battles between only two users to cause like 3 to 4 pages should be banned.
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ShiningStar_x
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Feb 13, 2019 5:40:19 GMT
I don't agree with members here at times but I don't think it should be deleted especially not at a time when Avrils releasing an album.. I like discussing and talking about my favourite artist with other people. If this site wasn't here I won't be able to do that because I won't really like going onto social media to discuss Avril released things.
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rocket32
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Post by rocket32 on Feb 13, 2019 19:04:56 GMT
I know this is a serious thread but.....
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sam
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Post by sam on Feb 14, 2019 10:16:41 GMT
I know this is a serious thread but..... Hey, I have always made an exception for your great Star Wars memes
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elina
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Post by elina on Feb 14, 2019 16:52:03 GMT
How about immediate bans for anyone who's being an asshole to mods over private messages?
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Post by Gabo on Feb 15, 2019 12:02:16 GMT
Sad to see this, I've been a member of Bandaids for over 15 years. We barely are united here, I cannot imagine doing this thing on social media like fb or instagram, i will quick if it's like this
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Michelle
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Post by Michelle on Feb 16, 2019 20:44:28 GMT
I don't think it needs to end, if there are some trolls, can't you just ban them? I may not see the whole thing, but it would be extremely disappointed to see this go away. I know I just started to write here, but I spent a lot of time on Bandaids back in the day and it means a lot to me.
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sam
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Post by sam on Feb 17, 2019 18:10:32 GMT
Think it's best to close the thread now because I think it's given off the wrong message. Sorry if it worried you guys - Bandaids isn't closing, it just didn't look too bright with the lack of staff.
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