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Post by RockBitch on Apr 26, 2019 20:52:15 GMT
Well said! I feel the same way
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Post by cleverblonde on Apr 29, 2019 12:34:37 GMT
I'm finding this amusing. Shit all over Avril but God forbid you talk ill of Taylor Swift. The truth of the matter is we may think we know how Taylor got her deal or how she writes her songs, etc, but we will never know the whole truth and that 3% stake in Big Machine will always leave room for people for question. So it is perfectly acceptable to say it "seems." I would never say that Taylor isn't talented but I also think she has a far better team of people behind her than say Avril does. But then Taylor is in the pinnacle of her career right now, things may change at some point. The thing with Avril is that people bought what her team was selling in the beginning about her being this amazing young singer songwriter but until HAW she never really showed it past LG, which had the Matrix heavily involved. I honestly don't understand what is supposed to be missing in this album that makes is "not Avril." Apart from TMIO and Crush the whole album sounds like her old stuff. HAW, Warrior, and IWIM are her typical ballads that she's been putting out sing TBDT. Birdie and IFILWTD could be from UMS if they had louder guitar. DB sounds like Girlfriend part two. Souvenir and BW sound like they could be on LG. The only major difference is the lack of electric guitar and the better songwriting. If it had more electric guitar I doubt people would be saying so much about it missing something. I totally understand feeling disappointment over promo and not liking the album but the constant negativity here towards Avril is getting really depressing. We're even on her constantly talking shit over her silly jokes on instagram. On the same token there is half an Avril thread praising Taylor Swift like she's a pop goddess. I know she interacts with fans better than Avril does and she's a better songwriter, I'm not blind, but I feel like some people are looking at Taylor with the same rose coloured glasses that I could be accused of looking at Avril with. If Avril is not giving you what you feel you need from an artist and you get that somewhere else then by all means go listen to whatever makes you happy. If all you can say about Avril right now is negative then maybe it's time to move on at least for a little bit. People say not to use lyme as an excuse for her any more but I feel like it completely changed her perspective on her career. She realised what was really important in life and it's not fame, it's not the people who fawn over you on instagram one minute then shit on your the next; it's your family and friends and your health. I believe that Avril does appreciate us or else she wouldn't bother traveling overseas to do promo or using social media at all. Those snapchats you all hate are for your entertainment, whether you like them or not. It may not be what you want from Avril, but she seems to be trying after all these years of almost no updates. But it doesn't seem to matter what she does, some people will never be happy because the rose coloured glasses broke and they apparently can't be repaired. That's ok! Blink 182's music helped me through so much as a teen but I'm just not as big of a fan of theirs any more. I'll always appreciate what their music did for me but I moved on and I don't pay as much attention to them any more. It keeps me from feeling bitter over any changes they've made over the years. Why are we even comparing these two? Avril and Taylor are completely different and shouldn't be compared.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 29, 2019 16:10:27 GMT
I'm finding this amusing. Shit all over Avril but God forbid you talk ill of Taylor Swift. The truth of the matter is we may think we know how Taylor got her deal or how she writes her songs, etc, but we will never know the whole truth and that 3% stake in Big Machine will always leave room for people for question. So it is perfectly acceptable to say it "seems." I would never say that Taylor isn't talented but I also think she has a far better team of people behind her than say Avril does. But then Taylor is in the pinnacle of her career right now, things may change at some point. The thing with Avril is that people bought what her team was selling in the beginning about her being this amazing young singer songwriter but until HAW she never really showed it past LG, which had the Matrix heavily involved. I honestly don't understand what is supposed to be missing in this album that makes is "not Avril." Apart from TMIO and Crush the whole album sounds like her old stuff. HAW, Warrior, and IWIM are her typical ballads that she's been putting out sing TBDT. Birdie and IFILWTD could be from UMS if they had louder guitar. DB sounds like Girlfriend part two. Souvenir and BW sound like they could be on LG. The only major difference is the lack of electric guitar and the better songwriting. If it had more electric guitar I doubt people would be saying so much about it missing something. I totally understand feeling disappointment over promo and not liking the album but the constant negativity here towards Avril is getting really depressing. We're even on her constantly talking shit over her silly jokes on instagram. On the same token there is half an Avril thread praising Taylor Swift like she's a pop goddess. I know she interacts with fans better than Avril does and she's a better songwriter, I'm not blind, but I feel like some people are looking at Taylor with the same rose coloured glasses that I could be accused of looking at Avril with. If Avril is not giving you what you feel you need from an artist and you get that somewhere else then by all means go listen to whatever makes you happy. If all you can say about Avril right now is negative then maybe it's time to move on at least for a little bit. People say not to use lyme as an excuse for her any more but I feel like it completely changed her perspective on her career. She realised what was really important in life and it's not fame, it's not the people who fawn over you on instagram one minute then shit on your the next; it's your family and friends and your health. I believe that Avril does appreciate us or else she wouldn't bother traveling overseas to do promo or using social media at all. Those snapchats you all hate are for your entertainment, whether you like them or not. It may not be what you want from Avril, but she seems to be trying after all these years of almost no updates. But it doesn't seem to matter what she does, some people will never be happy because the rose coloured glasses broke and they apparently can't be repaired. That's ok! Blink 182's music helped me through so much as a teen but I'm just not as big of a fan of theirs any more. I'll always appreciate what their music did for me but I moved on and I don't pay as much attention to them any more. It keeps me from feeling bitter over any changes they've made over the years. Why are we even comparing these two? Avril and Taylor are completely different and shouldn't be compared. I disagree. I think Avril and Taylor share a lot of similarities in terms of what type of artists they are and the fanbase they appeal to. Many here are fans of both and I think it’s natural for comparisons to come up. I don’t see this as a bad thing and tbh I’m sick of people saying not to compare Avril to other artists. Why not? That’s part of the fun of discussing on a fan forum. I think many are frustrated with the way Avril has been handling her career for a while now and wish she’d do things differently and some of those examples come from things other artists do, like Taylor. For example, fan interaction.
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Post by cleverblonde on Apr 29, 2019 21:27:20 GMT
Why are we even comparing these two? Avril and Taylor are completely different and shouldn't be compared. I disagree. I think Avril and Taylor share a lot of similarities in terms of what type of artists they are and the fanbase they appeal to. Many here are fans of both and I think it’s natural for comparisons to come up. I don’t see this as a bad thing and tbh I’m sick of people saying not to compare Avril to other artists. Why not? That’s part of the fun of discussing on a fan forum. I think many are frustrated with the way Avril has been handling her career for a while now and wish she’d do things differently and some of those examples come from things other artists do, like Taylor. For example, fan interaction. See, I'm not exactly referring to them musically. There might be comparisons there, but look at how different their careers have gone. Avril tends to lose a lot of her hype because of the long waits between albums, while Taylor usually puts out albums every 2-3 years. Taylor also releases a lot more singles per album as well. If, say, my world or anything but ordinary were releases as singles, they could've been really big radio hits.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 29, 2019 22:52:56 GMT
I don't think anyone expects Avril to have the same kind of success as Taylor or to have the same kind of freedom with releasing music as she did. I agree that comparing them in that aspect is pretty pointless. But there are other things Avril does have control over in her career and sometimes I wish she would do things like Taylor does - for example the countdown to her latest single. It created a lot of hype in the fandom and people were trying to guess what the pictures meant and stuff. She's also always done the secret messages within song lyrics that are fun to decode. I'm not saying Avril has to copy those things because obviously it wouldn't be original. But I wish Avril would do some cool, creative things like that that are a bit unusual and also fun for the fans.
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Post by mike17 on May 10, 2019 14:06:35 GMT
I think we all miss the days when Avril was more commercially popular Speak for Yourself
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Post by adamf83 on May 10, 2019 21:56:27 GMT
I think we all miss the days when Avril was more commercially popular Speak for Yourself It doesn't bother me. I just meant in terms of her being talked about more, seeing her photo around more etc.
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Post by biggerwow on May 17, 2019 19:14:09 GMT
Uninteresting. That's Avril fandom future.
A part of me will always be a fan. Her music has put me through so much. And I can't thank her enough. However, my lack of interest in her is rivaling her own lack of interest in her career and her own fanbase. At first it really irked me seeing the words "Birdie ..fly away" on her latest Instagram story. Why tease us about it. So she remembers she has a new song called Birdie? Great! But after that moment of frustration I was like oh well I'm used to it. This is normal. Let her enjoy her life. If she can jet off somewhere that's cool, I'd love to do that too.
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Post by birdie2020 on May 19, 2019 21:35:04 GMT
I was thinking about it today and yeah, might be "boring" to the public but she seems happy. She isn't in trouble legally and is in a solid relationship as far as we know. Not much excitement around the album either lately but for a few months BA was buzzing. The birdie thing didn't strike me as a tease but just her being cute like she seems to do on IG.
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Post by orangesky on May 19, 2019 22:02:08 GMT
I think part of the problem is that she posts things like the "birdie...fly away" comment on a pic of her in a plane and it's literally just a reference to a song she has that mentions flying because she's about to fly but fans want it to be a tease and then get mad at her when it's not. There's no reason to assume it's anything else
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