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Post by TomX on Sept 6, 2019 15:30:51 GMT
Well, at least she played Warrior as a new song. As hard as it is for some people to understand after almost 10 years of this, Avril is an artist that enjoys playing her older hits more than album tracks. It’s just the way she rolls, which is not the most traditional way for most artists who generally play their entire album + three or four old hits. Fans are expecting her to play at least 10 songs from the album and I think we’ll be lucky if she goes as far as playing 6. She didn’t do it on the BST, didn’t do it on the AL tour, and probably won’t do it now. Besides, she doesn’t really seem to like the love songs that much (she said something about feeling uninspired when it came to writing love songs, like she had nothing, on the Zack Sang show) so I wouldn’t expect her to play anything from Souvenir onwards (maybe Crush). My guess is that this tour we’ll have HAW, Birdie, Devil, Dumb Blonde, IWIM and Warrior. She might bring in a few random tracks in some dates, but that’s all. People are getting their hopes up too much to prepare for a major letdown when she doesn’t perform as many tracks as they’re hoping for. This is honestly really sad if expecting her to play new songs off an album she just put out this year is “getting our hopes up too much.” It’s not sad, it’s realistic. She hasn’t played a full album since TBDT days and she even said on the Zack Sang show it would be 3/4 old songs. Y’all going to be very pissed once the tour starts and she doesn’t sing the entire album lol, that’s all I’m saying.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 15:39:37 GMT
This is honestly really sad if expecting her to play new songs off an album she just put out this year is “getting our hopes up too much.” It’s not sad, it’s realistic. She hasn’t played a full album since TBDT days and she even said on the Zack Sang show it would be 3/4 old songs. Y’all going to be very pissed once the tour starts and she doesn’t sing the entire album lol, that’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t a fact, just that it’s ridiculous expecting her to play new songs is now apparently such an unrealistic standard she can’t meet. We really don’t expect that much of her. She’s literally the only mainstream pop act i can think of that keeps playing old hits instead of new songs. It’s just frustrating. And I’m not saying i expect her to play the whole album. But I’m hoping at least HAW, Birdie, Devil, TMIO, DB, IWIM, maybe Souvenir or Crush, Goddess, and Warrior. Why is she going on tour just to keep playing old singles? I mean we all know she does this and not to get our hopes up a lot, but that doesn’t mean its acceptable or that we have to be ok with her choices. She’ll play Breakaway, a song she gave away to another artist from 15 years ago, but not a new song off an album she claims is super personal to her? This is the kind of logic that just frustrates me. Really, we’re not asking that much from her. But some people just like to continue to make lame excuses for her. At this point fans have a right to be pissed with her IMO.
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 6, 2019 15:41:51 GMT
I'd be surprised we get anything other than HAW, IFILWTD, IWIM, Warrior and perhaps DB, TMIO, Birdie (because of the chains and feathers). But anything else seems like we'd be reaching at this point.
And yes I think she has Warrior in the setlist. She just didn't have her lyric sheet with her yesterday.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 15:46:34 GMT
I think realistically we’ll get:
HAW Birdie Devil DB IWIM Warrior
The “soul” songs like TMIO and Crush will probably be rotated or played as a special song on certain nights. The acoustic based songs like Souvenir and Goddess will probably be rotated as well.
Bigger Wow and LMI will probably get skipped.
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Post by TomX on Sept 6, 2019 15:55:54 GMT
It’s not sad, it’s realistic. She hasn’t played a full album since TBDT days and she even said on the Zack Sang show it would be 3/4 old songs. Y’all going to be very pissed once the tour starts and she doesn’t sing the entire album lol, that’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t a fact, just that it’s ridiculous expecting her to play new songs is now apparently such an unrealistic standard she can’t meet. We really don’t expect that much of her. She’s literally the only mainstream pop act i can think of that keeps playing old hits instead of new songs. It’s just frustrating. And I’m not saying i expect her to play the whole album. But I’m hoping at least HAW, Birdie, Devil, TMIO, DB, IWIM, maybe Souvenir or Crush, Goddess, and Warrior. Why is she going on tour just to keep playing old singles? I mean we all know she does this and not to get our hopes up a lot, but that doesn’t mean its acceptable or that we have to be ok with her choices. She’ll play Breakaway, a song she gave away to another artist from 15 years ago, but not a new song off an album she claims is super personal to her? This is the kind of logic that just frustrates me. Really, we’re not asking that much from her. But some people just like to continue to make lame excuses for her. At this point fans have a right to be pissed with her IMO. First of all, I’m not excusing her for this, I’m just saying that this is what is more likely to happen, given her history. And yes, I don’t agree with her performing Breakaway either having a new album out and having that song take others place. I preferred she hadn’t included that song (which I don’t see the point either, cuz she didn’t write it and it’s a really old demo she recorded like 20 years ago). We can all agree and disagree with her on many things, but at the end of the day it’s up to us to decide if we still want to stick around. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy her tickets or to keep supporting her. And if it’s an 90% singles only setlist, you should still enjoy seeing her and try to make the best of it. Just try not to expect too much in that sense, that’s all I’m saying.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 15:58:42 GMT
Yeah I am still really thankful I get to see her in concert, the last time she was sick and still put on an amazing show, and hearing the hits in person is so much fun. I hope I’ll have a good time again this time and it looks like maybe she is stepping it up with the visuals and outfits. The venue is smaller too and I’m going to be closer to the stage. On the plus side, her vocals overall sounded really strong in this set so I think she’s at least going to give a good show. I just hope at least she remembers the lyrics and stuff.
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Post by orangesky on Sept 6, 2019 15:59:23 GMT
It’s not sad, it’s realistic. She hasn’t played a full album since TBDT days and she even said on the Zack Sang show it would be 3/4 old songs. Y’all going to be very pissed once the tour starts and she doesn’t sing the entire album lol, that’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t a fact, just that it’s ridiculous expecting her to play new songs is now apparently such an unrealistic standard she can’t meet. We really don’t expect that much of her. She’s literally the only mainstream pop act i can think of that keeps playing old hits instead of new songs. It’s just frustrating. And I’m not saying i expect her to play the whole album. But I’m hoping at least HAW, Birdie, Devil, TMIO, DB, IWIM, maybe Souvenir or Crush, Goddess, and Warrior. Why is she going on tour just to keep playing old singles? I mean we all know she does this and not to get our hopes up a lot, but that doesn’t mean its acceptable or that we have to be ok with her choices. She’ll play Breakaway, a song she gave away to another artist from 15 years ago, but not a new song off an album she claims is super personal to her? This is the kind of logic that just frustrates me. Really, we’re not asking that much from her. But some people just like to continue to make lame excuses for her. At this point fans have a right to be pissed with her IMO. I don't think they were saying its unrealistic to want new songs more that people get their hopes up sometimes for things that are unlikely e.g. to hear the full album (something few artists do if it's not a massive hit and something she hasn't done since LG because she had so few songs there was no other choice). The Breakaway thing is a great example. There's no confirmation she'll play it, it's just a rumour based on very little. BUT some people are complaining about it already. Others are getting their hopes up she will play it and will be disappointed she doesn't rather than thinking how realistic is it she's going to play a 15yr old song she rejected. We don't know what will be played on tour yet. This Grammy show is no indication. She was only allowed a few songs so picked the key song and lead single for the era (HAW) plus 2 old hits with different styles and left the 4th up to a fan request. She's not a mainstream artist now, most of her popularity is based on old hits.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 16:00:29 GMT
I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t a fact, just that it’s ridiculous expecting her to play new songs is now apparently such an unrealistic standard she can’t meet. We really don’t expect that much of her. She’s literally the only mainstream pop act i can think of that keeps playing old hits instead of new songs. It’s just frustrating. And I’m not saying i expect her to play the whole album. But I’m hoping at least HAW, Birdie, Devil, TMIO, DB, IWIM, maybe Souvenir or Crush, Goddess, and Warrior. Why is she going on tour just to keep playing old singles? I mean we all know she does this and not to get our hopes up a lot, but that doesn’t mean its acceptable or that we have to be ok with her choices. She’ll play Breakaway, a song she gave away to another artist from 15 years ago, but not a new song off an album she claims is super personal to her? This is the kind of logic that just frustrates me. Really, we’re not asking that much from her. But some people just like to continue to make lame excuses for her. At this point fans have a right to be pissed with her IMO. I don't think they were saying its unrealistic to want new songs more that people get their hopes up sometimes for things that are unlikely e.g. to hear the full album (something few artists do if it's not a massive hit and something she hasn't done since LG because she had so few songs there was no other choice). The Breakaway thing is a great example. There's no confirmation she'll play it, it's just a rumour based on very little. BUT some people are complaining about it already. Others are getting their hopes up she will play it and will be disappointed she doesn't rather than thinking how realistic is it she's going to play a 15yr old song she rejected. We don't know what will be played on tour yet. This Grammy show is no indication. She was only allowed a few songs so picked the key song and lead single for the era (HAW) plus 2 old hits with different styles and left the 4th up to a fan request. She's not a mainstream artist now, most of her popularity is based on old hits. Avril confirmed herself in an interview she will be playing Breakaway on tour.
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Post by orangesky on Sept 6, 2019 16:05:30 GMT
I don't think they were saying its unrealistic to want new songs more that people get their hopes up sometimes for things that are unlikely e.g. to hear the full album (something few artists do if it's not a massive hit and something she hasn't done since LG because she had so few songs there was no other choice). The Breakaway thing is a great example. There's no confirmation she'll play it, it's just a rumour based on very little. BUT some people are complaining about it already. Others are getting their hopes up she will play it and will be disappointed she doesn't rather than thinking how realistic is it she's going to play a 15yr old song she rejected. We don't know what will be played on tour yet. This Grammy show is no indication. She was only allowed a few songs so picked the key song and lead single for the era (HAW) plus 2 old hits with different styles and left the 4th up to a fan request. She's not a mainstream artist now, most of her popularity is based on old hits. Avril confirmed herself in an interview she will be playing Breakaway on tour. Did she? I never heard that. Did she confirm full thing? Or just like using it as an intro to another song or a medley? Fans have requested it for years tbh and it is something new
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 6, 2019 16:12:45 GMT
Not even Kelly Clarkson likes Breakaway. Poor song, I enjoy it but I much rather Avril show another side of her own music (Crush, TMIO).
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 6, 2019 16:13:43 GMT
Avril confirmed herself in an interview she will be playing Breakaway on tour. Did she? I never heard that. Did she confirm full thing? Or just like using it as an intro to another song or a medley? Fans have requested it for years tbh and it is something new
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 16:55:03 GMT
So far she’s confirmed around 23-ish songs for the tour. We know for sure this includes Breakaway, WTH, HTNGU, and a song on the drums, I think probably a cover, that was the vibe I got when she was asking for suggestions.
1. Complicated 2. Sk8er Boi 3. IWY 4. DTM 5. MHE 6. HW 7. Breakaway 8. Drum song 9. GF 10. WTH 11. HTNGU 12. HAW 13. Devil 14. DB 15. IWIM 16. Warrior
This leaves room for at least 4 more full songs even just to make a 20-song set. She could easily squeeze in Birdie, TMIO or Crush, Souvenir, and Goddess.
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 6, 2019 17:03:18 GMT
What about KHO? It was in the picture next to the Breakaway lyrics.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 6, 2019 17:16:20 GMT
What about KHO? It was in the picture next to the Breakaway lyrics. Oh yes I forgot about that.
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Post by delmatico on Sept 6, 2019 17:24:53 GMT
I just listened to Warrior, and I laughed, she was funny, I like how she started the song, and to me Warrior sounds better live.
And I love this picture from HAW Tour Sneak Peak, She looks like a Queen to me.
Did Evan Luke said that Crush will be on tour? I like Bigger Wow
I think her set list will consist of 20 songs, max 25, I guess there will be 7 -10 new songs, If she sing 7-8 new songs, I will be satisfied.
The more important thing is that she sings those songs she truly enjoys, if that means mostly older hits, than go for it Avril, if that means mostly new hits, than again go for it Avril. To me the most important thing about her is that she is happy, has smile on her face while performing, so I can be happy with her (when I'm at a concert or watching Youtube) What songs will she sing, What will she wear, How she will performs, On all this questions I have my opinions, but to me more important thing is that she does what she really loves.
EDIT: Will Grammy upload Avril's performance on youtube ?
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