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Post by goodbye on Sept 23, 2019 10:23:27 GMT
European dates tomorrow? Or maybe today at 00:00h what do you think Were supposed to be today, meaning Monday. so let's hope it's still a Monday plan. By the way, from a recent interview for Chicago Tribune "The newer songs are more work. It’s such a pain in the a—to remember the chords, to memorize them all completely and remember all the parts. The old stuff, it just comes back like that, and it’s really fun to actually sing." So maybe here's the answer why there are not many tracks from HAW. Didn't she sang them in the past? I think she rushed the tour. It's her job to learn the songs and to tell her band how to play the new songs. She should've done the tour next year if she needs more time to learn the songs.
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Post by Anna on Sept 23, 2019 10:28:04 GMT
Were supposed to be today, meaning Monday. so let's hope it's still a Monday plan. By the way, from a recent interview for Chicago Tribune "The newer songs are more work. It’s such a pain in the a—to remember the chords, to memorize them all completely and remember all the parts. The old stuff, it just comes back like that, and it’s really fun to actually sing." So maybe here's the answer why there are not many tracks from HAW. Didn't she sang them in the past? I think she rushed the tour. It's her job to learn the songs and to tell her band how to play the new songs. She should've done the tour next year if she needs more time to learn the songs.
I understood it more like she's saying: I want to have as much fun as possible and singing old songs is fun (because of good memories from the past), i don't have to work that much to make it works. Which obviously sounds bad
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Post by gabbox on Sept 23, 2019 10:33:38 GMT
Newer songs are hard to memorize?
Well.. it’s your job.
Even the early songs were hard to memorize, but if you don’t sing them at all you will never.
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Post by Jinkxx on Sept 23, 2019 11:17:10 GMT
So I hope today we will see the European tour dates for real. i hope the list we saw is real. Germany it is then! Cologne/Koln Edit; I like Souvenir and Bigger Wow too! But it doesnt matter what she plays from HAW since I love all the songs from HAW, really. Just a few more would be amazing but I love her vibe on stage and can't wait to see her! Last time was 2011.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 23, 2019 11:20:07 GMT
I don’t really think this is a good excuse why she’s not playing the new stuff. It just sounds lazy on her part. She had no issue learning the new songs on her first 3 albums. Even GL and AL had a fair share of new songs represented. I mean she performed SST on the piano. And I don’t know what she means about memorizing chords, she doesn’t need to play the instruments. All she has to do is memorize some lyrics. Lyrics that SHE wrote. I understand where she is coming from, I find myself not being able to commit song lyrics and chords to memory as easily as I used to like 5-7 years ago, and maybe as she’s gotten older it’s become harder to memorize stuff or Lyme could have impaired her memory skills, but still. It’s literally her only job to learn some lyrics, it’s not that hard if she commits a few hours per day to it. And she could even have the lyric sheet in front of her if she couldn’t memorize it. Just play the songs, that’s all the fans want.
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Post by Meteora on Sept 23, 2019 11:36:38 GMT
The setlist is getting shorter and shorter. No DT, IWIM nor WTH. Nobody is asking too much but for a concer from a person who's been almost 20 years on the road at least 20 songs is all I'm asking. I know she's been through too much and I was the one who always was bringing her illness as an excuse for many things she wasn't doing and she had promised but... now this not wanting to learn the lyrics thing. Even non english speakers have learnt the lyrics for the new songs. How much time does it take to learn the lyrics of a song? or a song you already sang before 10+ times... I just can't with this girl! Come on Avril, I'm happy and greateful your're back on the road but if you want my money, you better work!
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Post by Sara on Sept 23, 2019 11:43:52 GMT
Ok hits as Complicated, IMWY, MHE etc ... it's always nice listen them, but the fans want also the songs on the new album. It would have been fun listen to new songs live like TMIO, BW, Souvenir, Birdie... if we fans were able to learn the new songs in a short time, she could do it too.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 23, 2019 12:07:59 GMT
I don’t get why at least TMIO isn’t on the setlist. It was technically a single, even if it didn’t really get any traction.
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Post by TamyXD on Sept 23, 2019 12:35:26 GMT
I don't really get why it's so hard for her to memorize her own songs either. She was doing fine from LG to TBDT era. I think she started struggling during GL era, if I remember correctly, so you can't even say it has anything to do with her being sick. Okay, she has more songs now, obviously, but her setlists aren't any longer than they used to be. And her songs really aren't that hard to memorize imo. She usually uses basic chords and nearly always the same chord progression. Her lyrics are mostly simple; she doesn't really use any complicated words you hardly use in everyday language, and the choruses for each song are mostly the same. The structure also tends to be the same - verse 1, chorus, verse 2, bridge, chorus. It's really not that difficult imo.
I know she's said in the past that she's "totally ADHD". Whether she just means she's hyperactive or if she's actually got a diagnosis, I don't know, but I do know that for someone with ADHD (like myself) it can be super difficult, almost impossible, to memorize certain things. For some, it's birthdays and phone numbers, for others it's lyrics. Maybe that's the case with Avril. But then again, memorizing lyrics and chords (her OWN lyrics and chords) is her job. And like I and some others here have said, she didn't seem to struggle during her first three eras.
I really don't want to put her down and seem like some ungrateful fan. Because I'm not; I'm super happy she's on tour at all, so for all I care, she could fuck up half her setlist as long as she and the audience have fun. But I still can't help but feel like she's become sort of lazy when it comes to memorizing songs. It feels as though she's just like "okay, I've tried memorizing this stuff for a few minutes, but it's boring so I'm just gonna go with knowing only half the song."
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Post by Anna on Sept 23, 2019 13:06:22 GMT
I think we all know she didn’t write most of her tracks but of course, that isn’t an excuse. She can always have sheet with lyrics as she used to (and probably still has) What I find surprising is that she’s so open about it. Instead of saying she doesn’t want to play the new tracks because for example, some remind her of sad times and she doesn’t want to be reminded of her struggles, she says I am too lazy to do it and I will keep singing the same tracks all over again because i love them and they are easier.
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Post by Meteora on Sept 23, 2019 13:44:22 GMT
I think we all know she didn’t write most of her tracks but of course, that isn’t an excuse. She can always have sheet with lyrics as she used to (and probably still has) What I find surprising is that she’s so open about it. Instead of saying she doesn’t want to play the new tracks because for example, some remind her of sad times and she doesn’t want to be reminded of her struggles, she says I am too lazy to do it and I will keep singing the same tracks all over again because i love them and they are easier. I was surprised about it too. BTW can you please share the link so we can get access to that interview where she says that. I would really appreciate it!
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Post by Anna on Sept 23, 2019 14:09:42 GMT
I think we all know she didn’t write most of her tracks but of course, that isn’t an excuse. She can always have sheet with lyrics as she used to (and probably still has) What I find surprising is that she’s so open about it. Instead of saying she doesn’t want to play the new tracks because for example, some remind her of sad times and she doesn’t want to be reminded of her struggles, she says I am too lazy to do it and I will keep singing the same tracks all over again because i love them and they are easier. I was surprised about it too. BTW can you please share the link so we can get access to that interview where she says that. I would really appreciate it! Sure! Posted below I see i doesn’t show up so I’ll try this way
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Post by Meteora on Sept 23, 2019 14:41:05 GMT
thanks anna. I've just found it by googling it.
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Post by blackstarr on Sept 23, 2019 14:49:01 GMT
So if the rumors are true and her next tour leg stars in march she will have a few months to learn all her new songs she will have no excuse .. i can forgive her now especially because its her first tour in 5 years and in the US but if she doesnt improve her setlist in the next leg i will be really very disappointed with her
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 23, 2019 15:10:47 GMT
This answer crushes me. I'm sorry but gone are all the excuses a lot of you have come up with for her. It really disappoints me that she'd say it like this. Give me a better reason. Tell it in other words. Just... I can't believe she said that. Could it be it was taken out of context...but there I go making excuses again. What happened to her passion for this album?
I enjoyed her show so damn much. Don't get me wrong. But I can't help but feel like this.
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