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Post by sanctuaryx on Jun 26, 2015 16:17:09 GMT
Hi. I've followed bandaids for a long time, even though I've never really joined in (: But I wanted to share this. Every vocal range place hasn't even identified her as capable of going this high, but from my almost studio quality acapella this note in Wish You Were Here is very clearly not an F#5 as sources have identified it, but an E6. In this mega link there's a video with a spectral pitch display that has only frequencies above D#6 playing, a picture of the spectrogram also showing this, and just for further proof, I also included a spectral pitch video that is playing everything D6 and below on the actual track, not the acapella, and the background belting is barely/not audible. mega.co.nz/#F!z19VSBjS!jxgj-Qt4JNkWwt13-Lf1gQ |
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 26, 2015 16:45:30 GMT
For what it's worth, a studio recording doesn't mean anything. She's never sung that high live, so we have no way of knowing whether she can really hit that note or its just auto tune.
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Post by sanctuaryx on Jun 26, 2015 16:47:50 GMT
For what it's worth, a studio recording doesn't mean anything. She's never sung that high live, so we have no way of knowing whether she can really hit that note or its just auto tune. Yes it would be nice to see her sing that high live. But people extraordinarily overrate the powers of auto-tune. It doesn't really do that much, there's even some news articles on it talking about how its not the miracle cure people think it is.. And the note doesn't sound heavily processed like some of the higher notes on Avril Lavigne do. If they were really using some kind of pitch correction to raise it that high, it would sound very digital. There's also a lot of melisma in that area, which is sounds very bad with auto-tune, and this doesn't. |
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Post by avrilfan04 on Jun 26, 2015 23:16:37 GMT
Just wondering, in Audition, how are you getting the marquee selection tool in the spectral pitch display? I'm only getting the option in Spectral Frequency display.
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Post by sanctuaryx on Jun 27, 2015 1:58:03 GMT
Just wondering, in Audition, how are you getting the marquee selection tool in the spectral pitch display? I'm only getting the option in Spectral Frequency display. If you select the entire track, and make sure you're zoomed all the way out on the right, so it shows all frequencies, there should be a box around it that you and click and drag. I was going back just to do it myself to make sure I was telling you the right thing and at 3:25.0 through 3:25.2, I noticed there's a very brief (so 1/5 of a second) F♯6. |
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Post by niccolo on Jun 28, 2015 3:26:27 GMT
It's not even autotune that would be the "issufe" here, it's more the fact that the note is taken out of context: it's easy to hit a high note when you have unlimited takes to do it and don't have the rest of the song as a prefix. A lesser example of this is in Hot, avril has never REALLY nailed that "you make me wanna SCREAM" note, it's always always a semitone flat
Anyway so yeah, she could be recording that note on a competely separate day with an hour of warm up and twelve takes before finalising the choice, so not hearing it live is where the doubt could initiate.
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Post by avrilfan04 on Jun 28, 2015 5:18:39 GMT
Just wondering, in Audition, how are you getting the marquee selection tool in the spectral pitch display? I'm only getting the option in Spectral Frequency display. If you select the entire track, and make sure you're zoomed all the way out on the right, so it shows all frequencies, there should be a box around it that you and click and drag. I was going back just to do it myself to make sure I was telling you the right thing and at 3:25.0 through 3:25.2, I noticed there's a very brief (so 1/5 of a second) F♯6. Hmm... I'm still not getting that option in the same display as your videos. I might just need to update Audition or just keep trying to mess around with it. |
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Post by sanctuaryx on Jun 28, 2015 16:43:19 GMT
It's not even autotune that would be the "issufe" here, it's more the fact that the note is taken out of context: it's easy to hit a high note when you have unlimited takes to do it and don't have the rest of the song as a prefix. A lesser example of this is in Hot, avril has never REALLY nailed that "you make me wanna SCREAM" note, it's always always a semitone flat Anyway so yeah, she could be recording that note on a competely separate day with an hour of warm up and twelve takes before finalising the choice, so not hearing it live is where the doubt could initiate. I know, I've already said it would be nice to see her hit it live, but the people who post vocal ranges aren't only looking at live ranges, and they misidentified the notes. |
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