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Post by slapstick on Mar 15, 2020 18:31:23 GMT
So all of you living outside the epicentre of the shutdown, prepare emotionally for the ordeal, because if you aren't anxious before, you certainly do become so in these circumstances; schools, kindergartens, colleges - shut down. Bars, restaurants, hairdressers - shut down. Grocery stores - shortened work hours. Public transport - literally gone, busses, trains, planes, they're all standing still. No visitations in hospitals or retirement homes, dads can't even be present during births. Public gatherings of small groups - banned. Borders to neighboring states completely closed, except for certain trucks.
You don't really appreciate the small mundaneities of a 21st century civilization, until you get to see it disappear infront of your eyes. Most of the time everything is an abstraction, somewhere out there, only in such breakdowns do you see how it is all run by the people, and that every person is a piece of the giant puzzle that makes the world what it is.
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Post by katy on Mar 15, 2020 19:24:30 GMT
So all of you living outside the epicentre of the shutdown, prepare emotionally for the ordeal, because if you aren't anxious before, you certainly do become so in these circumstances; schools, kindergartens, colleges - shut down. Bars, restaurants, hairdressers - shut down. Grocery stores - shortened work hours. Public transport - literally gone, busses, trains, planes, they're all standing still. No visitations in hospitals or retirement homes, dads can't even be present during births. Public gatherings of small groups - banned. Borders to neighboring states completely closed, except for certain trucks. You don't really appreciate the small mundaneities of a 21st century civilization, until you get to see it disappear infront of your eyes. Most of the time everything is an abstraction, somewhere out there, only in such breakdowns do you see how it is all run by the people, and that every person is a piece of the giant puzzle that makes the world what it is. I know there’s a lot of frustration at the UK government for doing..not a lot really.. but this is why I’m quite glad. It’s all well and good countries going into lockdown but how long does it last? What happens when it’s lifted? Boris seems keen to stay open as long as possible and I’m kind of glad about it (as long as their master plan works, lol). I hate getting up at 6 for work every day til I can’t do it, then I think I’ll be bored out of my mind.
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Post by slapstick on Mar 15, 2020 19:54:50 GMT
So all of you living outside the epicentre of the shutdown, prepare emotionally for the ordeal, because if you aren't anxious before, you certainly do become so in these circumstances; schools, kindergartens, colleges - shut down. Bars, restaurants, hairdressers - shut down. Grocery stores - shortened work hours. Public transport - literally gone, busses, trains, planes, they're all standing still. No visitations in hospitals or retirement homes, dads can't even be present during births. Public gatherings of small groups - banned. Borders to neighboring states completely closed, except for certain trucks. You don't really appreciate the small mundaneities of a 21st century civilization, until you get to see it disappear infront of your eyes. Most of the time everything is an abstraction, somewhere out there, only in such breakdowns do you see how it is all run by the people, and that every person is a piece of the giant puzzle that makes the world what it is. I know there’s a lot of frustration at the UK government for doing..not a lot really.. but this is why I’m quite glad. It’s all well and good countries going into lockdown but how long does it last? What happens when it’s lifted? Boris seems keen to stay open as long as possible and I’m kind of glad about it (as long as their master plan works, lol). I hate getting up at 6 for work every day til I can’t do it, then I think I’ll be bored out of my mind. I think there is a credible dilemma involved here. Johnson method is banking on making it a more sharp (but not the sharpest) but short ordeal, which could spare the economy a prolonged slough, but at the expense of severely overloading the healthcare system, potentially rising the number of dead because of inadequate resources and burnt out medical staff. Italian method is centered around preventing too many people from falling ill at the same time, but at the expense of a longer duration, which is likely to do bigger damage on the economy, and may fail further on, because people will inevitably get tired of isolation. It's a very difficult and unprecedented situation, which also shows just how lacking the world is in global coordination, long-term planning, and more.
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Post by katy on Mar 15, 2020 20:13:50 GMT
I know there’s a lot of frustration at the UK government for doing..not a lot really.. but this is why I’m quite glad. It’s all well and good countries going into lockdown but how long does it last? What happens when it’s lifted? Boris seems keen to stay open as long as possible and I’m kind of glad about it (as long as their master plan works, lol). I hate getting up at 6 for work every day til I can’t do it, then I think I’ll be bored out of my mind. I think there is a credible dilemma involved here. Johnson method is banking on making it a more sharp (but not the sharpest) but short ordeal, which could spare the economy a prolonged slough, but at the expense of severely overloading the healthcare system, potentially rising the number of dead because of inadequate resources and burnt out medical staff. Italian method is centered around preventing too many people from falling ill at the same time, but at the expense of a longer duration, which is likely to do bigger damage on the economy, and may fail further on, because people will inevitably get tired of isolation. It's a very difficult and unprecedented situation, which also shows just how lacking the world is in global coordination, long-term planning, and more. It is scary. Get the virus side of it wrong and you’ve got a load of deaths on your hands now, play the economic side of it wrong and you’ve potentially got deaths on your hands further down the line when people’s business go under. It’s the potential length of it I wonder about. We’ve been told at work to work from home for two weeks if possible - what happens after that? Two weeks makes no difference whatsoever but the logistics of us all working from home for months is horrendous. And we have the IT systems in place to be able to work from home - what about the companies who can’t? Worrying all round.
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Post by slapstick on Mar 15, 2020 20:29:35 GMT
I think there is a credible dilemma involved here. Johnson method is banking on making it a more sharp (but not the sharpest) but short ordeal, which could spare the economy a prolonged slough, but at the expense of severely overloading the healthcare system, potentially rising the number of dead because of inadequate resources and burnt out medical staff. Italian method is centered around preventing too many people from falling ill at the same time, but at the expense of a longer duration, which is likely to do bigger damage on the economy, and may fail further on, because people will inevitably get tired of isolation. It's a very difficult and unprecedented situation, which also shows just how lacking the world is in global coordination, long-term planning, and more. It is scary. Get the virus side of it wrong and you’ve got a load of deaths on your hands now, play the economic side of it wrong and you’ve potentially got deaths on your hands further down the line when people’s business go under. It’s the potential length of it I wonder about. We’ve been told at work to work from home for two weeks if possible - what happens after that? Two weeks makes no difference whatsoever but the logistics of us all working from home for months is horrendous. And we have the IT systems in place to be able to work from home - what about the companies who can’t? Worrying all round. Yeah, not only that, manufacturing industry, hospitality/travel/tourism, many trades, logistics, construction, retail etc. can't be done at home, yet are making a living to huge portions of the populace. I think this is also a unique challenge to the very basis of the economic system, and its guardians - central banks and international monetary entities. Everybody knows that this is an event with an expiration date - but companies need to last until then. If its a month, its a major hiccup, but what if it takes 2, 3, 4 months? The major players - US, Eurozone, Japan, India, China and the UK could make a pledge to provide absolute liquidity to all companies and broad welfare to all individuals until this blows over - it would run up national debt very quickly, it would be a comical level of money printing, but it would also guarantee a nice recovery after the worst of the pandemics is through. If they don't do that, then all bets are off. Hopefully, Uncle Bob wont hit us over the head with a hammer for going off-topic, though. EDIT by UB: No hammer necessary, since I have moved these posts to the new official Coronavirus thread.
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Post by adamf83 on Mar 15, 2020 21:45:55 GMT
So all of you living outside the epicentre of the shutdown, prepare emotionally for the ordeal, because if you aren't anxious before, you certainly do become so in these circumstances; schools, kindergartens, colleges - shut down. Bars, restaurants, hairdressers - shut down. Grocery stores - shortened work hours. Public transport - literally gone, busses, trains, planes, they're all standing still. No visitations in hospitals or retirement homes, dads can't even be present during births. Public gatherings of small groups - banned. Borders to neighboring states completely closed, except for certain trucks. You don't really appreciate the small mundaneities of a 21st century civilization, until you get to see it disappear infront of your eyes. Most of the time everything is an abstraction, somewhere out there, only in such breakdowns do you see how it is all run by the people, and that every person is a piece of the giant puzzle that makes the world what it is. I know there’s a lot of frustration at the UK government for doing..not a lot really.. but this is why I’m quite glad. It’s all well and good countries going into lockdown but how long does it last? What happens when it’s lifted? Boris seems keen to stay open as long as possible and I’m kind of glad about it (as long as their master plan works, lol). I hate getting up at 6 for work every day til I can’t do it, then I think I’ll be bored out of my mind. Being off work is the only postive thing that can come out of this for me. I hate my job. Haven’t had any leave since October. Was saving it to see Avril.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Mar 15, 2020 22:10:31 GMT
It's time this subject had it's own thread. So, here it is. Emotions can run high on a topic like this, because so many people are affected. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Please be courteous and polite. You can disagree and debate. But, please be respectful about it. If you have useful information to share, please share the source as well. If you are going to throw around statistics, please quote the source. If you are going to give medical advice, please submit copies of your medical degrees and license to practice medicine to me, via PM. Otherwise, I might edit your posts. Common sense things like "wash your hands", won't require such documentation.
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Post by NowISee on Mar 15, 2020 23:58:58 GMT
Yes, finally a coronatopic that doesn't have something to do with the tour. I've been hesitated to post there because she wasn't even going to visit my country: Finland.
Eventhough otherwise we are a highly sufficient country, with this we are failing. There's barely 300 positives found and the health services are qutting active testing. And pretty much everything WHO has recommended, the authorities have not done. Also every little info from them is different than coming from Who. Such as how the virus gets spread, how long the virus stays alive on surfaces. They still say how unlikely it is for anyone in Finland to get it.
I'm super appalled how my country is handling the situation. All this miss-information and poor knowledge makes me really scared of mine, family's and friends' health.
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Post by MPone01 on Mar 16, 2020 0:23:42 GMT
Today on my country (Portugal):
245 positives 0 Deaths 2 recovered
- Most people self isolated since Saturday. (74 cases on friday and people got scared) - Government is helping with funds for people that had to close their businesses and parents that had to isolate to be with their children. - Schools, Tourist attractions and museums and bars, etc. all closed. - Terrestrial and sea boards closed for tourism. - Aerial boards to be closed until Wednesday (in discussion)
Problems: - malls are still working. - airports fully working with no restrictions.
How's the situation in your countries?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 0:45:13 GMT
Everybody complains they need more free time and now that we have it we don’t know what to do with it.
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Post by NowISee on Mar 16, 2020 1:15:49 GMT
Today on my country (Portugal): 245 positives 0 Deaths 2 recovered - Most people self isolated since Saturday. (74 cases on friday and people got scared) - Government is helping with funds for people that had to close their businesses and parents that had to isolate to be with their children. - Schools, Tourist attractions and museums and bars, etc. all closed. - Terrestrial and sea boards closed for tourism. - Aerial boards to be closed until Wednesday (in discussion) Problems: - malls are still working. - airports fully working with no restrictions. How's the situation in your countries? So in Finland we are not getting the numbers of cures or deaths because "privacy reasons". - events for over 500 people are cancelled - some theathres have been closed, some are open - museums, bars, libraries, businesses, schools are all open - all airports are open, as well as all boarders - malls, supermarkets etc. are open - people are adviced to work from home, but those who can't must continue working normally - only if you are feeling sick, you are otherwise adviced to distance yourself for two weeks. But as most of the people won't get tests done on them, it's nearly impossible to be off work for that amount of time. Insane, right?!
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Post by UnderAlexSkin on Mar 16, 2020 1:52:02 GMT
God, please finally Burn 🔥 All This Bullshit To The Ground! But for now guys, take care of yourself, always stay positive & wash your hands more properly as they say. 💪😉 And as Avril sings in the new leaked song "after the darkness we'll burn so BRIGHT!"
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 16, 2020 14:10:21 GMT
Since today in Holland schools are closed so people with kids have a hard time finding someone to babysit since they have to go to work. Also restaurants, cafes, bars are closed now till April 6th but we don't now what to expect when that date is near. People who can work at home have to.
I still have to go to my work as usual but we have some sick people (don't know a normal flu or Corona symptoms) I wash my hand obviously more often but it scares me a bit cause I also see people here who don't was their hands after using the toilet and now we have to think about eachother and come on, normally you wash your hands after using the toilet but now it's even more necessary. One thing I was a bit happy about, no traffic on the highway to my work. Usally mondays are a crime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 15:50:25 GMT
I really think calling it the Boomer Remover is rather rude. 😅
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