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Post by ame · 雨 on May 20, 2020 15:54:42 GMT
What I mean by "big" is that she's at least considered a singer currently, not "oh wow, sk8er boi was great gurl" like, we get it, it's iconic, but everyone's talking about her as she retired or something xD i'm not expecting her to became billie or ariana, but something in the middle.
I know it's hard for her to get back in the game, especially when she's mid 30's which is tough for women in the industry. Or you get plastic surgery or you look extremely good, and Avril is like a tinny little fairy, i don't see her going sexy like Nicole Scherzinger lol. She doesn't have that "young" appeal anymore, she's not made to do the sexy thing either, and seeing her in the mid 30's singing boy bashing songs would be a bit weird (DB was executed pretty well considering she tends to go a bit cringey in these type of songs). She's in a tough position to be honest. It actually seems like the country rock, or back to pop-rock-country, or just pop, is the only thing she can do.
But Sia had a great comeback back in the day with chandelier. She didn't change her music sound THAT much, but she was original and knew how to play her cards. Sorry to Sia fans, she's probably a better lyricist than Avril, but Ramona here i think has more skills and talents. You just need a good idea. Let's be honest, Taylor is what it is today because she has great ideas. I'm pretty sure her career would have gone down if she didn't release reputation, which is 180º from 1989. She knew she wouldn't be able to replicate an album like that and it's success, so she just went for the surprise factor.
It's somehow like what happened to Avril after UMS, nobody would have anticipated her to dress in pink and skirts. that's what i mean. She needs to do something different. And if not, just stick with what you do best, but do it, don't wait 6 years 'cause we know she has enough songs. She even said she had material for two albums before HAW came out.
What i mean, is that if she wants success this is not the way. of course i want her to be happy with the music she makes. I won't mind a HAW 2.0 at all to be honest. But the problem is that HAW 2.0 may take another 6 years.
I will be here waiting, but not everyone will, and the least i want is to see her career die like that, when we all know she can deliver so much more. she paved the way for so many young artists like billie. and yet she's never got the respect she deserves from GP.
I don't what it is, but something's telling me we'll see AL7 sooner than later. my guess is 2021
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Post by gabbox on May 20, 2020 15:59:10 GMT
Avril..Surgery.. ?! She didn't age at all honestly, all that part, I don't agree
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 20, 2020 16:15:05 GMT
Avril..Surgery.. ?! She didn't age at all honestly, all that part, I don't agree I think that was his point. A lot of female celebs in Hollywood end up getting plastic surgery or botox of some sort to keep up a young appearance or to look a certain way, but Avril never has or at least not so that it is noticeable. As artists age, especially female, it's harder and harder for them to maintain success in the music industry. They have to do something to keep up, whether it's changing their image, sound, whatever. For some they resort to surgery to maintain a young look, obviously Avril hasn't and likely won't do that. If she wants to keep up today, she needs to maybe reinvent herself a little and I think the fact she's been doing these country songs might be a really organic and natural way of doing that for her.
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Post by adamf83 on May 20, 2020 16:22:58 GMT
Avril..Surgery.. ?! She didn't age at all honestly, all that part, I don't agree I think that was his point. A lot of female celebs in Hollywood end up getting plastic surgery or botox of some sort to keep up a young appearance or to look a certain way, but Avril never has or at least not so that it is noticeable. As artists age, especially female, it's harder and harder for them to maintain success in the music industry. They have to do something to keep up, whether it's changing their image, sound, whatever. For some they resort to surgery to maintain a young look, obviously Avril hasn't and likely won't do that. If she wants to keep up today, she needs to maybe reinvent herself a little and I think the fact she's been doing these country songs might be a really organic and natural way of doing that for her. When I listen to her sing country songs pre fame she sounds really good. I’d be interested to hear these new songs based on that alone.
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Post by ame · 雨 on May 20, 2020 16:40:48 GMT
Off topic, but i wouldn't mind if she gets plastic surgery. If it's done right obviously. i think Jennifer lopez is a good example, even lady gaga and ariana had. I don't know if she'll ever do it, but i guess she will only have to fix wrinkles 'cause her features are already perfect <3
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Post by biggerwow on May 20, 2020 17:32:39 GMT
Avril doesn't need plastic surgery. That's all I have to say on that topic.
Back to AL7! She needs new music out by the time she goes back on tour. An EP of some sort or one very good song. Can you imagine she waits to complete the tour and then goes back to the studio? Cus I do 💀
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 20, 2020 18:14:30 GMT
I don't think Avril needs plastic surgery, but if she were to get it I don't want her to end up looking botched or like a completely different person like Ariana does.
I hope she puts new music out by the time she goes back on tour too, I mean that is a little less than a year away, it's not like she's got much else to do before then. But at the same time, this is Avril we're talking about. I hope she will surprise us though and put music out sooner than we expect. We never thought she would be doing as much as she is right now with the pandemic going on, so maybe she will surprise us again!
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Post by ame · 雨 on May 20, 2020 19:03:58 GMT
Of course she doesn't need plastic surgery. I meant maybe in the future when she gets old and if she wants to.
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Post by Jinkxx on May 23, 2020 12:07:08 GMT
It would be good if she would put out an album every 2-3 years from now, she has a lot of material to out out like maybe 3 albums
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Post by Sara on May 28, 2020 0:41:04 GMT
A very interesting topic. I agree with Bogo who says that Avril will never be big as she was in the early 2000s, but that isn't just an Avril thing I think, it's a condition that with the years and the advent of new artists happens to everyone. I think to Alanis Morissette, Britney Spears etc ...
I also agree with Ame when says that Avril can still be a relevant singer anyway because she has a loyal fanbase; she is seen as an "icon" and a reference point by young and talented artists as Billie. However, not much time should pass between the release of a album to another.
As I said in another topic, if in the future there will be the desire and willingness by Avril first of all and her label to conduct a well-publicized project she will still have some satisfactions in terms of popularity and recognition. I am sure that if her and her team had worked more HAW it would certainly have had more credit than those obtained.
I think of a song like TMIO that in my opinion was unfairly snubbed quickly, but that with the right radio push could have do well. To me who have been a fan since 2002, who mostly love the pop/rock genre, has positively surprised me. That's to say that even in HAW there are the "surprise" ingredients you were talking about. My guess is that this time Avril will surprise us by releasing new music by the end of 2021.
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Post by damncoldnight on May 28, 2020 1:42:11 GMT
I love how she wants this album to be more upbeat, I want more Rock songs!
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Post by Blackstar02 on May 28, 2020 16:25:44 GMT
I think she said the next album will be more country rock. I'm really interested in the new music she gonna be putting out
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Post by mike17 on May 28, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
But Sia had a great comeback back in the day with chandelier. She didn't change her music sound THAT much, but she was original and knew how to play her cards. Sorry to Sia fans, she's probably a better lyricist than Avril, but Ramona here i think has more skills and talents. How is Avril Better she is not, first she has done what other females have done with loud guitars second she don't write songs on her own except for a very limited amount. Not saying she needs to write songs on own. Taylor's song writing is what makes Taylor what she is today.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 28, 2020 19:30:07 GMT
I think she said the next album will be more country rock. I'm really interested in the new music she gonna be putting out I only hope that whatever these "country rock" songs are that she's doing are not bro-country like Florida Georgia Line, Sam Hunt type stuff. She mentioned she listens to Sam Hunt every day.
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Post by ame · 雨 on May 28, 2020 19:48:28 GMT
But Sia had a great comeback back in the day with chandelier. She didn't change her music sound THAT much, but she was original and knew how to play her cards. Sorry to Sia fans, she's probably a better lyricist than Avril, but Ramona here i think has more skills and talents. How is Avril Better she is not, first she has done what other females have done with loud guitars second she don't write songs on her own except for a very limited amount. Not saying she needs to write songs on own. Taylor's song writing is what makes Taylor what she is today. i've never said Avril writes better than Sia. In fact, i don't even think that. Sia is a great composer and lyricist. But in terms of melodies Avril is pretty good too. What I menat is that I think Av has more skills and talent in general. She may not have a "special" voice like Sia, but she has a better technique and more pleasing voice. Anyway my point was to give an example of career redemption. Sia made it big with chandelier and she was already "old" at the time. She had a great comeback because she knew how to take advantage of her creativity and wasn't afraid to do something different. The point was not to say who is better than who, the point was to give an example and say that Avril is way more capable to do big stuff, like Sia did.
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