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Post by StrongSweet on Mar 14, 2021 3:59:53 GMT
Yeah, she doesn't live in a gated area anymore, unfortunately. It's easy to go for a stroll and walk by her house if you lived in that area. And that dude doing what he did... creepy as fuck. she probably thought "well I'm not that famous anymore" so I can live something like that finally but not It isn’t that difficult to find someone’s address, even a celebrity’s. When she moved to her new house, I think the address was published in an article or something, and even if not, addresses are public info regardless. Avril isn’t the only celeb who’s had her house broken into. That being said, yes it’s odd that someone could enter that easily. Like does she not have a security system in place or something? She used to live in a gated community but it’s possible her new place doesn’t have that. LA literally has celebrity home tours, where they drive you around, showing where who lives (never been there, but I've read about it). On top of that, celebrities very often buy super glamourous residences which are all well documented and touted about by real estate agencies, so its quite easy for tabloids/paparazzi and fans to figure out where a famous person lives. And regarding security, I've read in a tabloid years ago about Lana Del Rey buying a home in Malibu, and pictures showed that the house was literally right beside a major 4 lane road, like one could drive right up to her front door, no fences or anything, and I really found that curious from a safety standpoint. WTF how come that's legal ?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 14, 2021 4:19:09 GMT
How in the hell is this psycho not behind bars yet? I mean they can track down top notch hackers but not this dumbass who isn’t even clever enough to make his account private? Btw, I hope her AL7 album is not on that computer. He could’ve hacked into her computer and stolen songs, who knows? That would definitely suck but songs? They’re replaceable. I’d be more worried if he actually stole something super valuable. And I doubt she’s stupid enough to keep a whole album of songs on her personal computer.
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Mar 14, 2021 7:32:44 GMT
How in the hell is this psycho not behind bars yet? I mean they can track down top notch hackers but not this dumbass who isn’t even clever enough to make his account private? Btw, I hope her AL7 album is not on that computer. He could’ve hacked into her computer and stolen songs, who knows? I agree that this is really creepy and illegal, but even with those pictures, I believe that it's still gonna be a little bit before he gets arrested. The police have other crimes to worry about too. There's still tons of stuff they need to uhm, "prove" first: - Was that really her house? Maybe it was a friend's house and this friend just really liked Avril and had tons of Avril-themed stuff? Maybe it was his house and he had tons of Avril-themed stuff?
- Did he just take these pictures from someone else and post it just to troll?
- Was it really a break-in? What if these people let him in to take pics and then later decided to claim that be broke in to take those pictures?
We as fans might "know" more about the situation, but the police need to analyze this proof first before jumping to conclusions. If I were a "detective," I would also need to sit and think about this for a little bit before I make a conclusion like we are right now if I were going in blind. It's just a principle, really. People's lives have been ruined by jumping to conclusions.
About the hacking thing: I'm hoping that she at least needs a password to log-in and that she actually logged out. If so, then that's safe enough for me to assume he didn't get anything. This isn't like a movie where you can just type out random numbers on a Matrix screen and then spew computer science mumbo jumbo to hack in. I'm sure ethical hackers have tested to see if they could just "hack" through the Windows login to little to no success. Also, most "hackers" wouldn't be so hands on that they would perform a physical break-in to get to the actual computer. They'd probably try to trick you into giving them access(social engineering). It's just very unlikely that he managed to hack into her computer. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post by slapstick on Mar 14, 2021 9:26:49 GMT
Yeah, she doesn't live in a gated area anymore, unfortunately. It's easy to go for a stroll and walk by her house if you lived in that area. And that dude doing what he did... creepy as fuck. she probably thought "well I'm not that famous anymore" so I can live something like that finally but not LA literally has celebrity home tours, where they drive you around, showing where who lives (never been there, but I've read about it). On top of that, celebrities very often buy super glamourous residences which are all well documented and touted about by real estate agencies, so its quite easy for tabloids/paparazzi and fans to figure out where a famous person lives. And regarding security, I've read in a tabloid years ago about Lana Del Rey buying a home in Malibu, and pictures showed that the house was literally right beside a major 4 lane road, like one could drive right up to her front door, no fences or anything, and I really found that curious from a safety standpoint. WTF how come that's legal ? I think legality probably originates from the old days when if you needed to contact someone, you just asked around in the area to get the information of where their homestead was. Furthermore, not too long ago when everybody still used landline phones, you could just look up the phonebook to get any (landline owning) person's number and address just like that. And public figures (celebrities included) actually have even less privacy rights - for example digging up private information by newspapers is nearly impossible to sanction through court, since it's considered "potentially in public's interest" for the media to be able to sift through undisclosed info.
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Post by MyHappySk8er on Mar 15, 2021 8:21:33 GMT
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Post by Uncle Bob on Mar 15, 2021 15:30:18 GMT
None of the pics I've seen are actually from the house. I've only seen four interior pics. They are all taken in the detached garage, not the house. The pic below appeared in a Variety piece that was about Avril buying the house. The living quarters have been converted into a music room/studio. In this pic we can see the reflection of the photographer/perpetrator. We also see the MFP neon sign, hanging on the back wall. This can't become a police matter until the homeowner files a complaint. The Sheriff's Department isn't going act on a report from random fans, because they saw some pics posted by some weirdo.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Mar 16, 2021 10:00:03 GMT
So yo're saying that he only got into that garage thing and not in the actual house? well... if that's the case, that would be some kind of relief... (i guess...) this whole situation just freaked me out a lot...ugh.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 16, 2021 12:08:38 GMT
It’s still not a good thing he was on her property in the first place, breaking into her garage/studio thing is still a crime. And the more worrying thing is that if he knows where she lives and was able to enter once, he could do it again, and possibly when she’s home. If it was that easy for him to enter, who’s to say someone else won’t try it too? Her team needs to get this guy arrested ASAP and install a better security system if they haven’t already.
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Post by booknerd on Mar 16, 2021 23:48:47 GMT
I’m just wondering what kind of security system she has. Like I get we are not all glued to our phones 24/7, especially if she’s on the water celebrating her boyfriends birthday, but come on. You can’t be SO detached from your phone that you don’t get any sort of security alerts. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me but I have cams in my apartment. If I get any alerts, I check them pretty quickly. I’m so happy she was not home and that she is safe but I’m really concerned for her. I hope they find this guy and press charges. I’m not shaming or blaming, honestly, but given her status I’m just surprised so many fans saw it and alerted her—- that is if she didn’t already low key know but didn’t publicly say anything. What a scary thing to happen.
I’ve seen this guy - a different guy - all over Instagram saying she’s his wife and he won’t reveal how or when they met until the time is right or whatever. I feel so bad for her that in her fame and success, she has to deal with crazy people like this.
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 17, 2021 0:23:50 GMT
Those pictures could have been taken days before he posted them online. We don't know the details.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 0:29:24 GMT
I'm glad Avril's ok. This person obviously has mental health issues and is likely going to be found and charged. I have sympathy for people who are sick, but you can't do this and it's upsetting not only for Avril, but for all her great fans. People who are mentally ill should be helped, but when you harass, assault or trespass on people's property, you've crossed the line. Hopefully he'll be taken in and also get the help he so obviously needs.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 17, 2021 2:07:36 GMT
I’m just wondering what kind of security system she has. Like I get we are not all glued to our phones 24/7, especially if she’s on the water celebrating her boyfriends birthday, but come on. You can’t be SO detached from your phone that you don’t get any sort of security alerts. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me but I have cams in my apartment. If I get any alerts, I check them pretty quickly. I’m so happy she was not home and that she is safe but I’m really concerned for her. I hope they find this guy and press charges. I’m not shaming or blaming, honestly, but given her status I’m just surprised so many fans saw it and alerted her—- that is if she didn’t already low key know but didn’t publicly say anything. What a scary thing to happen. I’ve seen this guy - a different guy - all over Instagram saying she’s his wife and he won’t reveal how or when they met until the time is right or whatever. I feel so bad for her that in her fame and success, she has to deal with crazy people like this. I’m sure she’s aware but probably didn’t say anything about it publicly in order to not draw even more attention to the perpetrator or the fact her house is an easy target.
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Post by StrongSweet on Mar 17, 2021 3:40:36 GMT
so this is not enough to charge the guy???!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 8:02:01 GMT
I can't imagine the constant stress that would be brought on by being a celebrity. The invasion of privacy that they experience is a really big pay off for the perks of being famous. I remember reading about how years ago Björk had an obsessed stalker "fan" that attempted to kill her through a package with sulfuric acid. Obviously this situation isn't anywhere near that extent, but it's still super concerning that something like this happened to Avril. I'm glad that she at least seems to have seen that direct message and is presumably aware of what happened. You are so right. It's a major challenge for artists who make it. And it's not just the scary stalkers and crazy fans who go overboard and are overly obsessed with them. Celebrity, success and fame really isn't all wine and roses. There's lots of public pressure and backlash when they don't say and act like people expect, and they don't do what fans and the media want them to. If they become really famous and successful, it becomes like a business with lawyers, accountants, agents, publicists. Record companies' demands. Fans can be fickle. Unwanted attention when they want some privacy. The press writing nasty things and always being negative, because that's what sells, and pulling that 1 quote from the interview and blowing it up so readers will freak out and think the worst and forget all the good things the artist said before. Some artists walk around with targets on their back 24/7. I could go on and on. The money may be great, but there is endless stress and responsibility. Doing live shows, dozens in a row can be exhausting. Especially the travel and hotel stays, year after year. The rewards are great. Playing for fans and having hits. And feeling accomplished. Plus the big money. But it's not all 1 sided, glowing in the success of fame and fortune and living by the beach with fancy drinks in their hands, while the soft wind blows through their hair and they take calls telling them how many awards they just got nominated for. Also, most artists have a shelf life of true relevancy in public and on the charts. So, hopefully they have lots of hits and a strong back catalog of albums to play arenas and big events and earn ongoing royalties, plus streams. If they only managed a hit or 2 they will be playing backyard parties and clubs within a few years, and hopefully they actually got paid by their record companies after they do their fancy calculations and deductions for making the albums, videos and all that, etc ...and saved their money or invested. That's all I can think of right now. I just woke up, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 8:03:47 GMT
so this is not enough to charge the guy???!! I think he's mentally unstable and possibly dangerous. People like this scare me. Lock him up and then treat him.
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