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Post by jant017 on Jul 15, 2021 21:52:01 GMT
People were saying they heard the whole thing. I thought it might be somewhere to fulfill my curiosity. But I guess i can wait... I've gotten way better at it being an Avril fan. I am OBSESSED!! I've listened to it about a million times omg it's so so good and catchy. (I'm a New Zealander so it's out here now)
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jul 15, 2021 21:52:06 GMT
I was expecting anyting but this. Terrible song. I'm starting to believe that real Avril is dead! my God... I wonder if she has any idea of what she's doing with her career.
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Post by jant017 on Jul 15, 2021 21:56:58 GMT
I was expecting anyting but this. Terrible song. I'm starting to believe that real Avril is dead! my God... I wonder if she has any of what she's doing with her career. Wow, what an opinion to have...
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Post by jant017 on Jul 15, 2021 21:57:58 GMT
Did you guys not read the article? What were you expecting? It explicitly stated it was reminiscent of early 2000's AL album. And that review is bang on. This could have been a TBDT b-side.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jul 15, 2021 22:06:09 GMT
Did you guys not read the article? What were you expecting? It explicitly stated it was reminiscent of early 2000's AL album. And that review is bang on. This could have been a TBDT b-side. Any song on TBDT is way better than this. Even I Will Be and Alone. Same level as "that kinda guy". it sounds like an "unfinished" demo.
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Post by jant017 on Jul 15, 2021 22:07:05 GMT
lol! Each to their own I guess. Personally, I love it!
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Post by oHoodie on Jul 15, 2021 22:22:03 GMT
OK… so the song is finally out at my location as well. and…. I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT! I didn’t it except it to sound like this… but it gives me some light Paramore - Hard Times and Olivia Rodrigo - Good 4U Vibes. So catchy… I just wanna dance around my apartment and feel myself. The only thing… I think it’s to short… would have loved one more lyrics part where they sing together. But definitely a great song… will listen to it all day. Haha…
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Post by jant017 on Jul 15, 2021 22:22:47 GMT
Avril's verse is way better than WIllows, lyrically and vocally. I'm only upset it's so short!
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 15, 2021 22:37:12 GMT
It's finally out in the EU, and I just listened to it twice. It's better than I'd expected. I was not very impressed by Willow's vocals at first, but upon listening to the song a second time, I already felt like I got used to it. Though I still feel for a song that's supposed to be in the rock genre, there's missing some more energy in her singing style on this track. I also feel like the song is missing some more dynamics and power / aggression overall. Idk, the drums seem pretty mellow for a pop-punk song. The entire song just doesn't sound very pop-punk to me, apart from the rhythm maybe. But mainly, it reminds me a lot of the mid-2000s Disney pop songs that tried to be rock simply by adding some electric guitars and some drums, lol. So, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, right? After all, Willow herself mentioned Disney when she described the song. It's just that these recent articles from Kerrang! and whatever else there was made the song sound so much heavier than it actually is... I also find the lyrics to be kind of childish. I mean, I guess they're "deep" for someone of Willow's age, but for me - someone in their mid 20s who's probably too serious for her age - it just seems a bit meh. I can see my younger self rocking out to this song, though. What did definitely positively surprise me, however, is Avril's vocals. It's not my favourite vocal performance of hers by far; she sounds quite nasal. But she sounds a lot more passionate than on "Flames" and there's no too-obvious filter or effect that makes her voice sound weird (watch me eat my words after I've listened to "Grow" a couple more times, haha). I also really like that she gets pretty much half of the song for herself. So, overall, I think the song is fine. I think it might be a grower (lol). It's definitely better than I'd expected; the snippet doesn't really do the song justice (thank goodness!). The hook is kinda repetitive and predictable (honestly, the entire song is), but it's catchy as hell and quite a cheerful tune. I'm surely gonna listen to it a couple more times. But I'm sure that, if I had to choose, I'd rather go with "Flames".
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Post by oHoodie on Jul 15, 2021 22:44:16 GMT
lol! Each to their own I guess. Personally, I love it! Same here… i definitely think it’s a great song. It‘s ok that not all of you like the song… I guess we all have different tastes and that’s totally fine. But I think this collab is not bad for Avril… Willow is on Spotify at the 263. place of the most streamed artist… and has over 15.500.000 listeners a moth… Avril is a few places behind at 286. place and 14.600.000 listeners. So I think to say she does nothing with her career anymore is wrong… she just changed and evolved and I think that’s totally legit. It’s ok that each of us prefer a special Avril era or just go with the flow and take what we can get from her. But to see how her TikTok blew up.. gives me hope to give her a boost and motivation to release and do more stuff. And of course I love her as a pop punk princess more… But for my part… I‘m just grateful she’s still out there… and is releasing once in a while new music. She gave me so much in the past… as a teenager… while I was growing up… that I have peace with her „soon“ announcements and maybe songs that not really my taste… but I still kind of love. For example … I never really liked her song „Fly“, I love the message… and the reason for what she released it… but it‘s not really my cup of tea. Sorry for this monologue… I just wanted to put it out there. Because all this pressure on Avril for my part I think is hard enough from the media… we as fans should stick together and respect her for what’s she’s doing and put effort in it. And of course we should all respect each other as LBS, even though we have different opinions. We don’t need to love everything, but we still should be able to appreciate the effort.
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Post by afonso16 on Jul 15, 2021 23:07:21 GMT
At first listen there isn't really anything that i like??? Avril sounds better than Willow but taking into consideration that people were praising her vocals i am disappointed.
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Post by itsmesachaf on Jul 15, 2021 23:23:46 GMT
Not gonna lie I started to really like the song only when Avril came in 😛 I like it tho, it's not bad, there is something missing on the production it does sound like a demo for some reason. But yeahhh I would love to hear a version with only Avril 😇
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Post by shuhan on Jul 16, 2021 0:07:51 GMT
I really like the song, its good! reminds me of early Paramore music, the only thing is wish it was a bit longer
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Post by metam on Jul 16, 2021 0:54:22 GMT
I really like the song, its good! reminds me of early Paramore music, the only thing is wish it was a bit longer The song is not that bad. I gave it a 6.5/10 (after 1st listen). I know the song will grow on me after a few more listen. Avril's voice really belong to this types of songs. I'm really excited for her new music.
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Post by biggerwow on Jul 16, 2021 1:33:15 GMT
What I don't understand is why the media has talked about grow as an anthem of pure and powerful pop punk .. I mean, it's a pop song. It could be on any hilary duff or miley cyrus album. And the battery ... Okay. It's travis barker, but it could be anyone else. I am sorry that they have not risked with a more rock production. Even transparent soul and lipstick have it. Coming from flames, this didn't seem like enough of a springboard for AL7. But hey, it's catchy. And it's just one (more) collaboration. I wonder how many more months we have to wait for the lead single ... Maybe because what’s what they got written in the press release. Plenty of music journalist do not write their opinion/reviews based on their personal opinions but press releases and fixed expectations plus the media tends to exaggerate things too. It's not that shocking. I always take someone else's review and promotion of their work with a grain of salt. Like everyone saying Avril's new stuff is 🔥🔥 and "can't wait" "gonna be surprised" "classic Avril". I won't know for sure until I get to hear it.
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