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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 13, 2017 10:22:01 GMT
I had a thread on the old forum called "Avril Mysteries" where basically you can post any questions you have regarding things that have happened that Avril never told us about, for example the falling outs with co-writers and things like that. 1. Was Avril's infamous "burning bridges" tweet directed at Martin Johnson, and if so, what caused the fight between them? 2. How much did Avril really contribute to the lyrics on Let Go? 3. What was the cause of Avril's divorce with Deryck? 4. What was the security incident in London on the Black Star Tour that Avril said "made me fear for my life"? 5. What caused the falling out between Avril and Butch Walker? Was the tie idea really Butch's? 6. What were the original versions of Goodbye Lullaby and Avril Lavigne like? 7. Why did she never perform a lot of the GL songs on tour? 8. Avril said the reason the M&Gs in South America on the AL Tour were so strict because there had been past incidents there. What exactly had happened there? 9. Does Avril plan to release Fine, Gone, tripod songs, Bonnie songs, the Runners songs, etc. on any future albums? About the question n. 7: I think she never performed many songs of GL because they are about her ex-husband Deryck Whibley. I know all the songs are personal and meaningful to her, but these specific ones are deeper I guess, she had been through a divorce, it must have been pretty hard. For most artists writing can be a therapy, therefore she's moved on because she released her feelings in the songs, but whenever she listens to them, they bring her back to that time and feelings, which wasn't easy. About the question n8: I think someone might have tried to sneak in into her hotel or something... unfortunately security breaches can always happen, so you have to be super cautious, especially after what happened to Christina Grimmie, you never know what can happen... I can't answer the other questions, but they're really interesting, and I'd love to know their answers. I'd love to know also how many songs she wrote with Ben Moody and if we'll ever be able to hear them...? I think they must be amazing!
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Post by edd on Jan 14, 2017 18:42:08 GMT
On nº 8: Actually, during the Black Star Tour a comedy TV show called "Pânico" payed a fan to invade the stage and scare Avril. That was in Belo Horizonte, and here's a video. It went viral at the time if I'm not wrong:
And there were rumours that they were planning something to the AL Tour again during the Meet and Greets, so her team suddenly became very strict. I remember being in the line and a lot of guards were in front of the Citibank Hall from time to time. So, that was the cause. I heard that if she felt comfortable and the fans were nice to her, that she was being great and sweet, and the majority of them got a hug from her and talked for a bit even if the pics would be that "thing" we saw
There are other versions that say that 1. The company that brought her to Brazil, Time 4 Fun, was the one that asked for the photos to be like that, because Brazilian fans are (that is true) "agressive" over-passionate fans and that they (Time 4 Fun) had some kind of incident before with invasive fans or something like that 2. She was already sick and in pain at the time, so she asked not to be touched or hugged so that she would not get worse.
But, honestly, I believe in the "Pânico" version, things were strange at the concert hall before it began and the TV show has a terrible reputation around here.
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Post by ⋆niki⋆ on Jan 14, 2017 18:57:31 GMT
But, honestly, I believe in the "Pânico" version, things were strange at the concert hall before it began and the TV show has a terrible reputation around here. Wow, this is new for me. What do you know about those strange things?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 14, 2017 19:40:26 GMT
Wow that's seriously awful. That shouldn't be legal.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 14, 2017 20:08:16 GMT
On nº 8: Actually, during the Black Star Tour a comedy TV show called "Pânico" payed a fan to invade the stage and scare Avril. That was in Belo Horizonte, and here's a video. It went viral at the time if I'm not wrong: And there were rumours that they were planning something to the AL Tour again during the Meet and Greets, so her team suddenly became very strict. I remember being in the line and a lot of guards were in front of the Citibank Hall from time to time. So, that was the cause. I heard that if she felt comfortable and the fans were nice to her, that she was being great and sweet, and the majority of them got a hug from her and talked for a bit even if the pics would be that "thing" we saw There are other versions that say that 1. The company that brought her to Brazil, Time 4 Fun, was the one that asked for the photos to be like that, because Brazilian fans are (that is true) "agressive" over-passionate fans and that they (Time 4 Fun) had some kind of incident before with invasive fans or something like that 2. She was already sick and in pain at the time, so she asked not to be touched or hugged so that she would not get worse. But, honestly, I believe in the "Pânico" version, things were strange at the concert hall before it began and the TV show has a terrible reputation around here. Wow, I didn't know about this. Paying someone to invade the stage and scare her, and making the pictures look like they did on purpose is really low, and yes it shouldn't be legal!
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Post by edd on Jan 14, 2017 20:16:09 GMT
But, honestly, I believe in the "Pânico" version, things were strange at the concert hall before it began and the TV show has a terrible reputation around here. Wow, this is new for me. What do you know about those strange things? Just the number of guards, that was really high. And very few people from media had the permission to walk in and watch the concert. In 2014 this same tv show interviewed her after the São Paulo concerts, apparently they didn't get what they wanted and just made the interview. But seriously, they lost almost their whole audience in the last 1-2 years, people started realizing the show is completely non sense and disrespectful and now it's a flop. Thank God they grew out of that. It's just a matter of time until it disappears. PS: I thought this whole story and different versions to the meet and greet controversy were known by fans. Apparently people just know about it here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 20:45:47 GMT
avril mystery: her hair extensions in AL era.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 6:05:51 GMT
I had a thread on the old forum called "Avril Mysteries" where basically you can post any questions you have regarding things that have happened that Avril never told us about, for example the falling outs with co-writers and things like that. 1. Was Avril's infamous "burning bridges" tweet directed at Martin Johnson, and if so, what caused the fight between them? 2. How much did Avril really contribute to the lyrics on Let Go? 3. What was the cause of Avril's divorce with Deryck? 4. What was the security incident in London on the Black Star Tour that Avril said "made me fear for my life"? 5. What caused the falling out between Avril and Butch Walker? Was the tie idea really Butch's? 6. What were the original versions of Goodbye Lullaby and Avril Lavigne like? 7. Why did she never perform a lot of the GL songs on tour? 8. Avril said the reason the M&Gs in South America on the AL Tour were so strict because there had been past incidents there. What exactly had happened there? 9. Does Avril plan to release Fine, Gone, tripod songs, Bonnie songs, the Runners songs, etc. on any future albums? Holy smokes that's a lot of questions. 🤠
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 23, 2017 20:45:58 GMT
Maybe it's not a mystery, and maybe it's nothing... I just noticed that during LG era, in the few performances she did where she played the guitar, she'd always use a Gibson, whereas from UMS era on she's always used Fender... is there any reason?
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Post by sliperslip on Jan 23, 2017 21:12:16 GMT
Avril divorce from Deryck, I believe she divorced because he was an alcoholic, after he came from the hospital he gave an interview where he sadi that he was drinking bottle of Jack Daniels every single day, he also said for the last 14 years of his life there was just a few days that he was sober and that he wasn't planning to stop drinking. so my logic is Avril was just in beginning of her twenties of the time so maybe she didn't recognize that he is an alcoholic ect, cuz she was partying a lot at the same time,but later on if he was drinking every day, and he didn't want to help himself and didn't want help from her, there is just one option: to leave. You can try to help addicted person, but if this person doesn't want to help himself first there is nothing much that you can do.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 23, 2017 21:32:54 GMT
Avril divorce from Deryck, I believe she divorced because he was an alcoholic, after he came from the hospital he gave an interview where he sadi that he was drinking bottle of Jack Daniels every single day, he also said for the last 14 years of his life there was just a few days that he was sober and that he wasn't planning to stop drinking. so my logic is Avril was just in beginning of her twenties of the time so maybe she didn't recognize that he is an alcoholic ect, cuz she was partying a lot at the same time,but later on if he was drinking every day, and he didn't want to help himself and didn't want help from her, there is just one option: to leave. You can try to help addicted person, but if this person doesn't want to help himself first there is nothing much that you can do. I guess it was that same interview I saw, or whatever... he said that he'd always been drinking, yes, but he also said that after the divorce, that is when it became worse. I've recently seen a documentary about Sum 41, actually about their writing process of Screaming Bloody Murder Album (the album he wrote after their divorce), and you can see that they're drinking every single day, bottle of JDs (at the end of the process, they left some of JDs bottles on a piece of furniture as souvenir to the owner of the house they were staying at) and they even had a Bloody Mary day where they'd only drink that for the entire day, and they'd do that up until the cops would show up. The drinking was so heavy that, at the beginning of the documentary, he says that he doesn't remember writing any of the songs... I'm not saying Avril is the one to blame (no one knows), because he's always been a heavy drinker, but the divorce got its toll on him. Probably the fact that he drunk a lot, and his rock star lifestyle had become a problem, although I think even Avril's had a bit of that lifestyle as well... no one knows, but I'm sure it's been really painful from both sides, and you can see it in that documentary and hearing some GL songs like Remember When and Goodbye.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 24, 2017 13:59:11 GMT
I have some questions to add:
10) What happened to Evan? What is he doing? Are Avril and Evan still friends? Why don't they write together anymore? (I know they're multiple questions, but they're all about the same subject - Evan)
11) Why did she change her first band?
12) Why did she change management team in 2009?
13) Is 17 about Jesse Colburn?
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Post by ⋆niki⋆ on Jan 24, 2017 14:50:04 GMT
10) They are not seem to hanging out with Evan anymore and I feel really sorry for this because they were always been so cute together, whether they were really together or not. They seemed they are really on the same page and they knew each other for a long time. Avril acted so natural when she performed with Evan. Maybe I am wrong, but somehow I think Evan's Best Years of Our Lifes is totally about Avril and maybe he closed his Avril-chapter in his life when he asked Avril to sing with him in that song. As far as I remember Avril and Deryck married in September, right? Or they announced they are together in September? Something happened then as far as I remeber, and Evan sings in his song that "September took me by surprise". He's singing about the past when he and somebody else (probably Avril) were best friends in the past and those were the best times in his life and he never thought that time would ever end. For me the song is always gonna be about Avril. I miss them. 13) I think 17 is not about a real guy or anything. I think it only holds the nostalgia of being 17. She mentioned she and the other guy she wrote the song with (you know, the guy who ruined the whole album with the production, I forgot his name) just felt the same good feeling about the good old days they were about 17 yo and decided to write a song about it
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Post by sliperslip on Jan 24, 2017 15:45:30 GMT
10) Evan is head of A&R Crush Music, I do believe that they are still friends, but they keep it privately, cuz must be annoying that you are in relationship with someone, and people ship you with someone else...everytime when Avril and Evan appeared in public together a lot of people went crazy, thats why I think they just don't appear in a public eye together anymore, for someone who were or maybe still is Evril shipper I do believe a lot of Evan's songs seems like he wrote it for her
11)cuz her band probably wanted to try different stuff, for example Jim started doing his own music when he left ect...
13) Jesse himself said it that song has no connection with him
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Post by aren on Jan 24, 2017 21:04:14 GMT
I've always read "My Happy Ending" was about Jesse... even though it seems Avril was the one who dumped him for Deryck. I remember reading here in the forums a long time ago that Jesse left the band heartbroken. So, only themselves know what truly happened. He follows her on Twitter and Instagram, though lol
Regarding Evan - comon guys, not just because they don't chat on public internet (twitter etc) that doesn't mean they don't talk or hang out or aren't friends anymore.
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