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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 28, 2017 21:21:37 GMT
It's not known who 17 was written about, if anyone at all. She may have been talking about being on the road with her band at that time. Or some of it could just be made up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 21:48:04 GMT
what was the reason behind her covering her skull and bones tattoo?? >>
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Post by Sarah93 on Feb 3, 2017 22:06:43 GMT
what was the reason behind her covering her skull and bones tattoo?? >> I guess she didn't like it anymore... even though I loved that tattoo so much!!!
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Post by Janne on Feb 12, 2017 15:43:01 GMT
what was the reason behind her covering her skull and bones tattoo?? >> I guess she didn't like it anymore... even though I loved that tattoo so much!!! The real mystery is, why didn't she get the tattoo removed first, it can't be that expensive for her
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 12, 2017 19:34:13 GMT
I guess she didn't like it anymore... even though I loved that tattoo so much!!! The real mystery is, why didn't she get the tattoo removed first, it can't be that expensive for herย I don't think cost is the issue. Even though it's possible to remove tattoos now, it's a very difficult and painful process that takes several sessions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 20:53:50 GMT
And they never get rid of it 100%. Peeps really should think twice before getting one. ๐ค
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 22:30:54 GMT
or maybe she wanted it to be like it is now like the expression of her charatcter - a messy combination of skull and cupcake (Intel Dangerous Cupcake Inside).
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Post by zpetspey on Feb 12, 2017 23:25:26 GMT
Just like how Butch Walker wrote a bunch of stuff about Avril in his book, like taking credit for the tie idea, Dr. Luke ripping off TBDT, etc. when we have no idea if that's true or not. Do you read this book? He didn't take the credit of tie. And TBDT was first song Avril and Butch wrote fo third album. And if Girlfriend have same bit as TBDT song, it means Dr Luke take it from this song. And Dr Luke not the man who must be protected. [deleted, it was MO] [deleted, it was too emotional] When I read thread about Avril's new album, I saw people who really was interested why Avril never worked with Luke anymore. Like really? After all this moments with Kesha? After all this stories with Pink and Kelly? No, I can't understand this. I can't understand why people keep blaming Butch for everything. [deleted, it was MO] Annnddddd what about the tie... this is rare cover for his July 9, 2002 album and Avril's outfit for Complicated (14 May 2002). As we know, sending a cover to press needs more time. He wrote that he was glad that it worked for Avril, and he understands, that he looks stupid in this. One more thing about Butch and Avril. In the end of My Happy Ending (they wrote together) appears some melody. I think this is Butche's Mixtape. You can hear same drums in the end of Mixtape. And as we know, Bethamphetamine was inspired in the story of Christiane F. Nobody's home has some references too!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:42:30 GMT
Wow. Good info. ๐๐ผ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:43:38 GMT
expressing your own opinions about how you think dr luke is "a jerk" hardly belongs to "Avril mysteries". you are not a judge to judge. the fact butch walker is "talented" doesn't interfere with the fact about him being a pussy crying in his book about everything is stolen from him and everything invented by him. looks like everyone wants to prove they were the main thing in AL success. no you weren't, she was. we saw quotes from his book, kindly posted by lirva i guess. she has a lot of interesting screenshots it seems. he even was coward enough to not name dr luke directly, right? if he felt offended, more appropriate would be call it as it is, naming a stealer by his name. if he didn't want to "harm" somebody (himself, most probably), then it would be nicer to not say anything at all. otherwise he reads as offended and jealous.
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Post by zpetspey on Feb 12, 2017 23:54:57 GMT
Wow, quotes and screenshots. Sorry for my stupid post, I was so wrong. Screenshots make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:59:24 GMT
Wow, quotes and screenshots. Sorry for my stupid post, I was so wrong. Screenshots make sense. those screenshots were taken from his book. just because not everyone here has the book. what is wrong with them? do you think people posting them have made up quotes in the book? wow, butch walker must be very talented for such a conspiracy against him. do you have the book? in the digital form. can you throw illegal copy at me? xD even though butch is so talented i hardly want to buy it, but i would be glad to read for free. xD if it is not around 5000 pages as those TRM's i need to read. if you want you may send it to me through the email for example.) so maybe this turns me into butch's fanboy too.))) but seriously it might be interesting.
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Post by zpetspey on Feb 12, 2017 23:59:38 GMT
what was the reason behind her covering her skull and bones tattoo?? >> I think this is her strange idea to cover skull with transparent cake
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Post by vanillabean on Jun 27, 2017 19:43:33 GMT
I just know one of the songs was Why. The other 2 were country songs. Yes it did happen the way she has said it did, when she was in NY to record a demo and someone told LA Reid to check her out. He came to hear her sing and she sang those 3 songs for him. He signed her immediately or at least expressed interest in wanting to sign her. The actual agreements and contracts were finalized in November 2000. She went to NY initially in the summer. Cliff said, "I can assure you at the time that [getting a meeting with LA] was not an easy feat. He [Ken Krongard] demanded LA Reid have a look at her and we came back to NYC when LA Reid was available." So yeah all of the story is true but it's really spread out over a few months instead of happening in one trip. Ken met Avril in the summer writing trip with Peter. She returned in the fall not to write, but just to meet LA, at Ken's insistence. It's not like LA just stopped by on a whim on the first NY trip and bam - signed her. From July - November I think Ken was working on convincing LA. I think after the July writing trip, Nettwerk was trying to figure out what to do with her - sign her or what - but then Arista stepped in with a serious offer. I'm sure that in those few months, there were other labels besides Nettwerk that expressed some level of interest but nobody ever jumped at the chance to sign her until Arista. This was not an overnight success story (although it happened quicker for Avril than for many other artists.) The only thing I can find about the three songs were that they were "two of Zizzo's songs" and "Why" which Avril and Peter wrote together.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jun 27, 2017 20:22:20 GMT
Cliff said, "I can assure you at the time that [getting a meeting with LA] was not an easy feat. He [Ken Krongard] demanded LA Reid have a look at her and we came back to NYC when LA Reid was available." So yeah all of the story is true but it's really spread out over a few months instead of happening in one trip. Ken met Avril in the summer writing trip with Peter. She returned in the fall not to write, but just to meet LA, at Ken's insistence. It's not like LA just stopped by on a whim on the first NY trip and bam - signed her. From July - November I think Ken was working on convincing LA. I think after the July writing trip, Nettwerk was trying to figure out what to do with her - sign her or what - but then Arista stepped in with a serious offer. I'm sure that in those few months, there were other labels besides Nettwerk that expressed some level of interest but nobody ever jumped at the chance to sign her until Arista. This was not an overnight success story (although it happened quicker for Avril than for many other artists.) The only thing I can find about the three songs were that they were "two of Zizzo's songs" and "Why" which Avril and Peter wrote together. Where did you find that? I've always heard LA Reid stepped by a couple of days after Avril and Peter Zizzo had started working together... Yeah I know several labels had expressed interest in her, but it was Nettwerk that gave her a Developement Deal, sending her to Peter Z. to develop her talent and see what her direction was going to be like, and for what I understood, if she finished the demos, they could have signed her...
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