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Post by dmiora on May 11, 2023 20:15:15 GMT
Contrary to the popular belief that Avril died in 2003/2004 and was replaced or whatever, I feel like for better or worse (mostly for the worse) - a big shift in her personality to me was observed post 2009 -a.k.a her first divorce. Before that, she was professionally competent and engaging, had a vision for her career and mostly a down to earth girl unaffected by Hollywood.Since her break-up with Deryck, starts the professional downhill of half-assed performances and album releases, marrying people on a whim and publicising/monetizing her relationships and eventually becoming this valley-girl/kardashian persona. (on a side note, I also do not like the photos where she was showing her thongs. I'm all for her embracing her sexuality, I'm not one of those who want her to look like a gothic emo teenager forever - she is an extremely attractive woman. Having said that, I feel like photos like these isn't very tasteful. But at the end of the day, it's her body and her choice - so if it makes her happy good for her). judging by her recent posts/actions, the reason for her posts with Homer Simpson is mostly her calling for attention. and with Mod, yes, there's most likely cheating. In 2009 she was trying also release her album Goodbye Lullaby, but RCA still didnt want to realease it until she have song like Girlfriend on it. That is also reason her popularity went down, since in this time many big stars come, like Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. Album come in 2011, but it was late.
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Post by katy on May 11, 2023 20:26:44 GMT
Funny she deleted the picture showing his face. Avrils mid-life crisis era keeps us on our toes I guess
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Post by henryp92 on May 11, 2023 20:29:41 GMT
Contrary to the popular belief that Avril died in 2003/2004 and was replaced or whatever, I feel like for better or worse (mostly for the worse) - a big shift in her personality to me was observed post 2009 -a.k.a her first divorce. Before that, she was professionally competent and engaging, had a vision for her career and mostly a down to earth girl unaffected by Hollywood.Since her break-up with Deryck, starts the professional downhill of half-assed performances and album releases, marrying people on a whim and publicising/monetizing her relationships and eventually becoming this valley-girl/kardashian persona. (on a side note, I also do not like the photos where she was showing her thongs. I'm all for her embracing her sexuality, I'm not one of those who want her to look like a gothic emo teenager forever - she is an extremely attractive woman. Having said that, I feel like photos like these isn't very tasteful. But at the end of the day, it's her body and her choice - so if it makes her happy good for her). judging by her recent posts/actions, the reason for her posts with Homer Simpson is mostly her calling for attention. and with Mod, yes, there's most likely cheating. No offense, but I disagree 100% with that opinion (pretty popular around here). I don't think her divorce or the post-TBDT eras showcase her not caring about her career or her image. For GL, she took the mantle of being the main, and mostly sole, writer of the record. She took production. She fought publicly for years to get the record she wanted. She performed more than 50 concerts with a setlist of 17-20 songs. She did ton of promotion for her three singles. Most of her best "tour" vocals comes from this era. And thats just GL. For AL, she also played around 17 songs when she was doing full concerts. She took herself put of her confort zone more than ever, in every regard. For HAW, she not only showed the best writing since LG (even only looking at the songs she was for sure the primary writter), but also her best raw vocals performances for an album (and even some of her best vocals in some live performances. She fought herself out of an illness and, while she could've easily retired, put out a record and planned a world-tour. Love Sux have already been talked, she was really happy and energetic about the record, she worked with the best of the best in the pop-punk reissenance, she put several collaborations with other artist and re-released her debut for the anniversary. I think people easily come to this conclusions because 2002-2008 are beloved by the fans. Like I don't think GL is an amazing album. But the critisim is that she wasn't ready to take on a serious topic. Those songs, at least lyrically, are as bad as UMS, which is only saved by the amazing, energetic vibe of the instrumentation and the dark atmosphere. 17-20 songs per concert are not a lot, sure, but she was already doing an avarage setlist of 17-19 in TBDTour! Her public image wa already full front in 2007. She was captured partying with famous people all over LA at the time. And people talk as if Brody or Chad were bad partners for her. Like I get Chad is cringe, and the wedding promotion was also cringe, but like they clearly look-out for each other. He worked for her Lyme album even after divorcing. I personally don't think Avril is an example of fan-service nor hard-worker. But I think she has been pretty stable over the years. And I know people say "we can't blame Lyme", but what a coincidence that setlist started getting shorter, out-of-breath singing started to appear, and shorter worlds tours were planned AFTER somewhere in the middle of the AL, where she fell ill. Like almost terminal ill, at least in feeling, mind remind us.
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Post by gabbox on May 11, 2023 20:36:00 GMT
The fact is that some comments have a crazy amount of likes. To be honest I noticed she started receiving many bad comments since the Modsun split and Tyga stuff. Then everything became an excuse to spread new hate, like at the Junos for example, there were so many comments about how badly she had treated the protester because it was very important for the environment and stuff. I think this Modsun/Tyga thing made many people change idea about her anyways. I'm very against some comments which I find just offensive.
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Post by katy on May 11, 2023 20:38:32 GMT
The fact is that some comments have a crazy amount of likes That “onehotsummer” girls comment made me laugh. Like… ok lol? Thank you for taking time out of your day to come here and say that? People are weird. Giving me the same vibe as those people who comment on game of thrones stuff to tell everyone they haven’t watched it. Weirdos.
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Post by gabbox on May 11, 2023 20:41:00 GMT
yeah like "ok she's not punk.." nice, thank you for the free consultation lol
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Post by geelicon on May 11, 2023 20:54:09 GMT
"The Kardashianification of Avril Lavigne" Gurl, she dated a Jenner and was never accepted in that inner circle.
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Post by oblako on May 11, 2023 21:29:45 GMT
I think she is often "bored" when a relationship lasts too long (that's not pejorative, plenty of people are like that), so maybe 2 years at worst and they'll break up.
I hope she'll be able to settle down (if that's what she wants of course) one day (after she breaks up with him) with someone who isn't You-Know-Who or someone like that.
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Post by midnightlavigne💕 on May 11, 2023 21:30:59 GMT
I don’t think she was ever that into Mod, if I’m being honest. Saying she doesn’t think love ever lasts or ends well on the Grammy red carpet right before getting engaged….the no matching tattoos was whatever I guess, despite Mod getting one in honor of Avril. Something tells me she was checked out of that relationship for a while…
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 21:41:52 GMT
I don’t think she was ever that into Mod, if I’m being honest. Saying she doesn’t think love ever lasts or ends well on the Grammy red carpet right before getting engaged….the no matching tattoos was whatever I guess, despite Mod getting one in honor of Avril. Something tells me she was checked out of that relationship for a while… I agree with that. And plus she was fighting it off and probably expected it to be a 1 year thing and then. the engagment happened. She couldve said no but idk and i dont think shes that into Tyga either
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 21:45:55 GMT
AVRIL REMOVED THE PICTURE OF TYGA ON TWITTER TOO HOLY SHIT WHATS GOING ON
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Post by afonso16 on May 11, 2023 21:53:50 GMT
Contrary to the popular belief that Avril died in 2003/2004 and was replaced or whatever, I feel like for better or worse (mostly for the worse) - a big shift in her personality to me was observed post 2009 -a.k.a her first divorce. Before that, she was professionally competent and engaging, had a vision for her career and mostly a down to earth girl unaffected by Hollywood.Since her break-up with Deryck, starts the professional downhill of half-assed performances and album releases, marrying people on a whim and publicising/monetizing her relationships and eventually becoming this valley-girl/kardashian persona. (on a side note, I also do not like the photos where she was showing her thongs. I'm all for her embracing her sexuality, I'm not one of those who want her to look like a gothic emo teenager forever - she is an extremely attractive woman. Having said that, I feel like photos like these isn't very tasteful. But at the end of the day, it's her body and her choice - so if it makes her happy good for her). judging by her recent posts/actions, the reason for her posts with Homer Simpson is mostly her calling for attention. and with Mod, yes, there's most likely cheating. Completely agree re the change after her and Derycks divorce. I think it affected her more than she lets on. Her whole persona just because a lot more immature and quite frankly annoying sometimes and the change in how seriously she took her career was evident. I dont think there was cheating involved and heres why. Why would Machine Gun Kelly, girlfriends (Travis Mills) Travis Barker, John Federman, Phem, etc, still be following Avril go on tour with Avril, working with her in the studio if she cheated on Mod with Homer Simpson? MGK is legit Mod's best friend, wouldnt he instanly unfollow Avril if she was cheating? This whole thing is messy, but i hope Mod and Avril are happy. Still love them Because Avril is worth more to them money wise would be my bet. Most of them have nothing to gain from Mod even if he is their friend, they do from Avril so they’re not openly taking sides. And even if she didn’t cheat the timelines are so uncomfortably close it doesn’t really make it any better imo, Mod wasn’t just a fling, they were engaged. To move onto someone else seemingly within a week or less is quite shady Also just to add re the thong photo.. I agree any slut shaming comments are out of line. However I think some of them come from a “this isn’t the Avril we know” place, like she’s started dressing and acting a bit more like a “rappers girlfriend” would, which I do agree with. She’s definitely changed a lot recently and I don’t think it’s for the better. You can't really just openly insult someone and then say "oh, i did it for your own good/because i love you". The stuff she's wearing is not even that different from what she usually wears and she has done plenty of riské (i guess) photoshoots over the years. 70% of the AL5 shoot was her topless or in her underwear.
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Post by afonso16 on May 11, 2023 21:55:28 GMT
AVRIL REMOVED THE PICTURE OF Homer Simpson ON TWITTER TOO HOLY SHIT WHATS GOING ON Yeah, she should've just deleted the post or kept it as it was on twitter. It looks as if she's making a big deal out of it which somehow makes it look worse.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 21:57:09 GMT
AVRIL REMOVED THE PICTURE OF Homer Simpson ON TWITTER TOO HOLY SHIT WHATS GOING ON Yeah, she should've just deleted the post or kept it as it was on twitter. It looks as if she's making a big deal out of it which somehow makes it look worse. IDk maybe they broke up, she is realizing her fans hate him, who knows. I dont think it makes her look worse
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Post by booknerd on May 11, 2023 22:01:02 GMT
I don’t think she was ever that into Mod, if I’m being honest. Saying she doesn’t think love ever lasts or ends well on the Grammy red carpet right before getting engaged….the no matching tattoos was whatever I guess, despite Mod getting one in honor of Avril. Something tells me she was checked out of that relationship for a while… I agree with that. And plus she was fighting it off and probably expected it to be a 1 year thing and then. the engagment happened. She couldve said no but idk and i dont think shes that into Homer Simpson either But engagements don’t just happen lol. That’s a huge milestone in a relationship, one you don’t even entertain unless you’re totally and completely in love with your partner and see a future with them. And given this isn’t our Ramona girl’s first time knows that. to just wash your hands of him after less than a year after agreeing to marry him under such a sketchy timeline is just so crazy to me, even for her. To be checked out for a while and then just accepting a ring (or even shortly after accepting) is so screwed up. If you meant she was fighting it off re: the beginning of their relationship, she literally only gave it a couple of days, her words, before she was with him. I will agree with someone else that at least she ended it - whether or not he knew it - before the wedding. And I agree she probably isn’t too into Homer Simpson, she doesn’t seem to be too into any one for too long. She seemingly does move on very quickly whether it be serious or a short term fling.
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