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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 17:47:36 GMT
Why do you even care about her personal life?? She can delete as many comments as she likes. Her acoount. doesn't need to have all this negativity in it. And for something that it's none of our business. Do i like her relationship with Tyga?? No! and that's it. Why go attack or try to shame anyone...when it has nothing to do with me. If she cheated on Mod Sun with Tyga...then Mod Sun is the only one who has any right to confront her (IF)! And We don;t even know what has happened... Reports say that they were on and off for months. You are missing the point. So MANY of you are missing the point. This actually has nothing to do with Avril breaking up with Mod in bad faith. Literally nothing. That's an entirely separate issue. What we are incensed about is Avril getting into a relationship with someone with an incredibly sketch history (and RECENT history) of being a misogynist and an abuser. And we are both scared for Avril's wellbeing and appalled that she would have ANYTHING to do with this person. Let alone DATE him. That's it. That's where the focus is. Relationships end, well or poorly. But Avril MADE A CHOICE to be with someone who could potentially hurt her physically and mess with her mind. That's what this outcry is all about (at least from my POV.) Anyone who's ok with that here has no idea what they are talking about. ADDENDUM: So if Avril (Hi, Avril!) or anyone on her team is stealth-ing the forums to see what the mood of the fanbase is that's what you can take away. Forget about the break-up, we'll deal with that another time We just want to see Avril in a safe space among her family & friends who love her and want only the best for her, where she can process everything that's happened the last few months. We're not mad at her (well, maybe a little bit, but we ARE disappointed). We just don't understand why she is getting herself into a situation that can only have bad outcomes for her. Can you help us understand that? Or, convey to Avril our concern for her? She should listen to her fans on this, not shut them out.
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Post by orangesky on Mar 7, 2023 17:58:21 GMT
This whole thing looks like a really bad rebound relationship to me. It rings a lot of alarm bells. Avril usually maintains friendly, respectful relationships with her exes for quite some time. This whole situation is weird af
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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 18:01:15 GMT
This whole thing looks like a really bad rebound relationship to me. It rings a lot of alarm bells. Avril usually maintains friendly, respectful relationships with her exes for quite some time. This whole situation is weird af Yes -- something unique is happening here and as a diehard fan since 2002, I need help processing this with all of you. So I'm grateful for this discussion. The alarm bells are indeed ringing. In fact the sirens are blaring and the red lights are flashing.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 18:03:11 GMT
The fact that she turned off comments suggests to me she actually cares what people think about this. She probably isn’t ready to admit to herself that what everyone is saying is true and that this isn’t the wisest decision. But turning off comments suggests she knows deep down they are right.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 18:11:36 GMT
I'm making my previous Addendum it's own post so it doesn't get passed over!
If Avril (Hi, Avril!) or anyone on her team is stealth-ing the forums to see what the mood of the fanbase is that's what you can take away. Forget about the break-up, we'll deal with that another time We just want to see Avril in a safe space among her family & friends who love her and want only the best for her, where she can process everything that's happened the last few months. We're not mad at her (well, maybe a little bit, but we ARE disappointed). We just don't understand why she is getting herself into a situation that can only have bad outcomes for her. Can you help us understand that? Or, convey to Avril our concern for her? She should listen to her fans on this, not shut them out.
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Post by slapstick on Mar 7, 2023 18:12:05 GMT
I think I speak for the majority of us when I say we're not worried about her career but about her actual physical, mental and/or emotional well-being. And I think we have good reasons to. Look at Tyga's history. Just look at his Wikipedia and click/read through the actual sources. Since 2012, he's been accused of multiple robberies, domestic abuse, and other such things, the latest of which was in October 2021! That's not even two years ago. These are good reasons to believe that he hasn't changed his ways, hence there seems to be a high chance he might be abusing someone again. And since he and Avril seem to be dating now (or at least spending a lot of time together - I'm still hoping they're just "having fun" or whatever and aren't actually dating), she could likely be the next one he'll abuse. Do we really want for Avril to have to "learn the hard way" who she's dealing with? Does it really have to come so far that Avril - or anyone, for that matter - has to be abused and possibly traumatised before they realize what's happening to them? I really don't think so. We fans certainly don't want this to happen. To anyone. As for not knowing what goes on behind closed doors: That's true. We don't, and we have no way of knowing. For all we know, all of Avril's previous relationships were abusive (I doubt it, judging by the way Avril has talked about most of them, but there's no way for us to know for sure). However, just because her previous bfs/husbands might have treated her badly, really doesn't justify Tyga potentially treating her badly as well. Also, all of Avril's previous bfs/husbands didn't nearly have the history that Tyga has. Yes, Deryck and Mod both had a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse. But they had shown clear signs of getting better and wanting to get better. They also didn't have any history of domestic abuse, afaik. Unlike Tyga. I'll say it again: Less than two years ago, he was arrested over domestic abuse charges. He's shown again and again since 2012 that he has not changed his ways. If this isn't reason for concern, then I really don't know what is. Lastly, from what we fans have seen of Avril since the start of her career, she seems to be acting quite unlike herself these days. Personally, it reminds me of those times shortly after/before (?) she and Deryck made their divorce public, when she was seen drinking and partying A LOT. Except this time, she's instead making out with a known abuser. This just doesn't feel right. I really hope I'm wrong, but to me it seems like she's so devastated by her and Mod's relationship ending, she just ran to the next-best guy to distract herself from the heartache, not really caring who the guy is or what danger she might be in because of his abusive past. It almost feels like she's on a path of self-destruction. And just because he might treat her nice now, doesn't mean he will in the future, likely even the very near future. For the third time: Look at his past. There are no signs of him having changed his ways. I usually don't write posts like this, but I just can't believe how a few people can just brush off Avril/anyone dating an abuser like it's nothing to be worried about. I agree. It seems she's devastated and rebounding and rebelling against something. She doesn't seem okay. I'm not even like, feeling for her about it much right now because she should have it together more than this for real, but yeah she is acting so weird right now I'd "like" (best of a bad deal) to think she's devastated or something, but being simply a careless person would appear to the outside exactly the same, so I don't know.. I mean, she has shown before she doesn't have issues dropping her "forever loves" and moving on in a very short while, at least on the outside it pretty much appears so. Even her songs mostly don't really offer us any kind of real introspection into her past relationships, from which we could e.g. see some complexity and complications that put an end to her 'love stories'. Some say Mod must've mistreated her, but does a person who was mistreated then hurry as fast as she physically can and couple up with a person known for being accused of outright domestic abuse? There are people who keep on 'falling' for people who are abusers, but those tend to be hidden, sneaky abusers and manipulators, they don't have their police records displayed on TMZ. From my perspective, if you grow to care about someone to the point you seemingly are planning your whole life with them, do you really have the heart to engage in a petty, grotesquely tabloidish drama aimed straight at their hurt, even though you were ice-skating seemingly all happy together just a few weeks ago? I don't have all that much experience, but it feels very immature at best. And some who still maintain that "maybe she isn't aware of Tyga's past" - I'd be really, really, really surprised if Avril doesn't just google her damn future lover. I google folks I meet, and I know girls I was/am friend of googled like crazy, practically social-media stalked their friends and especially love interests. And if she is aware and doesn't care, what does it say about her values? Some say maybe she's in some personal, existential crisis - that's possible, that could explain it in a way, though it would not excuse her behaviour - I know personally that I've did wrong during my worst times, though I never tried to be intentionally shitty to anyone. I guess I have highly mixed feelings about her, I cannot relate to what she's doing, and yeah, I am disappointed. Today her songs popped up multiple times on my spotify, but now she has sown some doubts about her personality which made me skip them. On the other hand I did listen to Mod's songs, but only to try and catch if there were some hidden implications ("red flags"?) that weren't noticed before, lol...
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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 18:16:09 GMT
I agree. It seems she's devastated and rebounding and rebelling against something. She doesn't seem okay. I'm not even like, feeling for her about it much right now because she should have it together more than this for real, but yeah she is acting so weird right now I'd "like" (best of a bad deal) to think she's devastated or something, but being simply a careless person would appear to the outside exactly the same, so I don't know.. I mean, she has shown quite a few times she doesn't have issues dropping her "forever loves" and moving on in a very short while, at least on the outside it pretty much appears so. Even her songs mostly don't really offer us any kind of real introspection into her past relationships, from which we could e.g. see some complexity and complications that put an end to her 'love stories'. Some say Mod must've mistreated her, but does a person who was mistreated then hurry as fast as she physically can and couple up with a person known for being accused of outright domestic abuse? There are people who keep on 'falling' for people who are abusers, but those tend to be hidden, sneaky abusers and manipulators, they don't have their police records displayed on TMZ. From my perspective, if you grow to care about someone to the point you seemingly are planning your whole life with them, do you really have the heart to engage in a petty, grotesquely tabloidish drama aimed straight at their hurt, even though you were ice-skating seemingly all happy together just a few weeks ago? I don't have all that much experience, but it feels very immature at best. And some who still maintain that "maybe she isn't aware of Tyga's past" - I'd be really, really, really surprised if Avril doesn't just google her damn future lover. I google folks I meet, and I know girls I was/am friend of googled like crazy, practically social-media stalked their friends and especially love interests. And if she is aware and doesn't care, what does it say about her values? Some say maybe she's in some personal, existential crisis - that's possible, that could explain it in a way, though it would not excuse her behaviour - I know personally that I've did wrong during my worst times, though I never tried to be intentionally shitty to anyone. I guess I have highly mixed feelings about her, I cannot relate to what she's doing, and yeah, I am disappointed. Today her songs popped up multiple times on my spotify, but now she has sown some doubts about her personality which made me skip them. On the other hand I did listen to Mod's songs, but only to try and catch if there were some hidden implications ("red flags"?) that weren't noticed before, lol... Totally agree. She is coming across careless disrespectful and shallow, and getting with a known abuser. Sucks a whole lot.
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Post by afonso16 on Mar 7, 2023 18:17:53 GMT
The fact that this tweet has almost 20 million views...
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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 18:18:42 GMT
The fact that she turned off comments suggests to me she actually cares what people think about this. She probably isn’t ready to admit to herself that what everyone is saying is true and that this isn’t the wisest decision. But turning off comments suggests she knows deep down they are right. I agree. She's getting a whole lot of backlash. Maybe she assumed we'd all just yas queen her.
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 18:23:30 GMT
I see a lot of the concern about Avril's mental health or the fact that she is dating Tyga out of craziness and showing Mod what she's missing. Avril is clearly over him...i love Mod's passion for music and the way he love his fans/art but i feel Avril was the alpha and acting like a mom to him. Avril is NOT perfect, she is human...maybe that's the issue here...we think we know her but we don't. We are only her fans...she has family and friends who are in a better position to talk to her...but she is also a grown ass woman who probably needs therapy than fan intervention. Did she call the media abt the split...sure..just like Mod and Av were doing those staged af shots on Malibu beach...when it was convenient to Mod. Tyga is in her life whether we like it or not. Do we unstan someone because of their love life or love choices? Does Avril look scared of Tyga in the pics? Let it play out and for sure, we'll see. I will say this...the comments here have racial connotations or stereotypes...like when u r a rapper, u r a rapist (mgk the pedo) or that he isn't paying his debts (shakira evading taxes) or a groomer (elvis, henry cavill, paul walker even gandhi dated minors) Wikipedia is not a person's bio. The fact that she turned off her comments, seeing the hate from her own fanbase and that of Mod against her CAN cause her actual mental breakdown. She has NEVER turned off her comments. Just like being a fan who are concerned about her wellbeing, we should know when to tone it down or blowing this whole situation out of proportion. Mod Sun, Avril and Tyga are three adults...we weren't consulted when they fell in love or out of love...so let them do themselves...none of them are saintly here.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 18:27:33 GMT
Avril looks like a deer caught in the headlights / shell-shocked here. She even gives a nervous little head nod when Tyga talks to her.
I don’t think the fan reaction is sitting well with her at all.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 18:35:34 GMT
I see a lot of the concern about Avril's mental health or the fact that she is dating Tyga out of craziness and showing Mod what she's missing. Avril is clearly over him...i love Mod's passion for music and the way he love his fans/art but i feel Avril was the alpha and acting like a mom to him. Avril is NOT perfect, she is human...maybe that's the issue here...we think we know her but we don't. We are only her fans...she has family and friends who are in a better position to talk to her...but she is also a grown ass woman who probably needs therapy than fan intervention. Did she call the media abt the split...sure..just like Mod and Av were doing those staged af shots on Malibu beach...when it was convenient to Mod. Tyga is in her life whether we like it or not. Do we unstan someone because of their love life or love choices? Does Avril look scared of Tyga in the pics? Let it play out and for sure, we'll see. I will say this...the comments here have racial connotations or stereotypes...like when u r a rapper, u r a rapist (mgk the pedo) or that he isn't paying his debts (shakira evading taxes) or a groomer (elvis, henry cavill, paul walker even gandhi dated minors) Wikipedia is not a person's bio. The fact that she turned off her comments, seeing the hate from her own fanbase and that of Mod against her CAN cause her actual mental breakdown. She has NEVER turned off her comments. Just like being a fan who are concerned about her wellbeing, we should know when to tone it down or blowing this whole situation out of proportion. Mod Sun, Avril and Tyga are three adults...we weren't consulted when they fell in love or out of love...so let them do themselves...none of them are saintly here. That dog don't hunt . . .
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Post by gabe on Mar 7, 2023 18:41:57 GMT
One day they kiss in front of the cameras and the next they don't even hold hands. It only reinforces, for me, that it was a drunken slip. Probably she would hide the relationship for a longer time.
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Post by madelyn on Mar 7, 2023 18:42:19 GMT
Yeah this screams rebound to me
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 18:45:00 GMT
Honestly what im most concerned about is the new album, shes a grown up, she can decide who she dates and if she wants do date this horrible person knowing about his past then thats on her, but I just hope this doesnt mean the album is gonna be delayed or shes gonna lose her passion about this album and working with fieldman and all these awesome people that are close to Mod Sun. Thats all i hope for. THIS...thank you. The same stan when Avril goes blank or completely off the radar will ask why she isn't interacting or posting. To see people enjoying Avril getting bashed and loving their influence on her love life...aren't WE the groomer? We want her to date who we want, dress up like we want etc...where was this passion for her poor setlist or her lack of professionalism at times on her media posts? The double standard is bad.
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