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Post by Underclass King on Jun 17, 2022 21:09:42 GMT
One of the dancers from The Best Damn Tour, Caity Lotz, recently gave an interview where she discussed Avril and the tour:
Even though the interview isn't particularly positive, I will say it's still interesting to hear her perspective. It was interesting to learn that Avril's manager thought the dancers were leaking things to the press and it caused some type of drama.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 17, 2022 21:24:41 GMT
Disappointing to hear that but tbh I don't find it hard to believe. I don't think Avril was exactly a diva or anything but Avril has always been shy and kind of introverted, I doubt she treated the dancers poorly or anything, but it was probably just as she said, that she's not exactly the type to get all up in your business and force a friendship. And I think that's ok - you are all there to work, it's nice to form a bond with the people you are on the road with, but at the end of the day, it's a job and you're not there to make friends or anything. I am a shy person as well and it's just not in my nature to be the first to approach anyone or make friends, I generally keep to myself, and that's probably how Avril is too. Plus back then she was a bit of a brat and after 3 successful albums so young in her career, I think she kind of took herself a bit seriously and did think she was hot shit.
I wish people would stop bringing up the distanced photos though. She was sick when those were taken, she has otherwise never taken fan photos requiring fans to stand so far away. It was only because she was sick and they probably didn't want any fans getting what she had. I will agree if the fans couldn't stand near her though they probably should have nixed the meet and greet or lowered the price. But nowadays Avril is a lot better at taking photos with fans and has even met fans after shows for free and signed stuff. The distanced photos while sick thing is not a fair comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 21:30:51 GMT
that she's not exactly the type to get all up in your business and force a friendship. I wish people would stop bringing up the distanced photos though. She was sick when those were taken, she has otherwise never taken fan photos requiring fans to stand so far away. It was only because she was sick and they probably didn't want any fans getting what she had. I will agree if the fans couldn't stand near her though they probably should have nixed the meet and greet or lowered the price. But nowadays Avril is a lot better at taking photos with fans and has even met fans after shows for free and signed stuff. The distanced photos while sick thing is not a fair comparison. " that she's not exactly the type to get all up in your business and force a friendship." That is a introverted person exactly.How is she not nice if she wants to keep her life private? Obviously,she keeps her personal life private as wall.Her breakups never make huge headliners and she remains very private and yes,she's a shy person too.I read in a 2013 article how she said she moved back to Canada because the celebrity lifestyle got to her head and she wanted to move out of Los Angeles.That 2014 meet and greet also had pictures where she hugged fans if they asked for a hug and lets not forget the security breeches done at her shows between 2011 and 2013.
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Post by Anna on Jun 17, 2022 21:52:34 GMT
I wish people would stop bringing up the distanced photos though. She was sick when those were taken, she has otherwise never taken fan photos requiring fans to stand so far away. It was only because she was sick and they probably didn't want any fans getting what she had. I will agree if the fans couldn't stand near her though they probably should have nixed the meet and greet or lowered the price. But nowadays Avril is a lot better at taking photos with fans and has even met fans after shows for free and signed stuff. The distanced photos while sick thing is not a fair comparison. I remember Taylor Momsen commenting on the distanced photos of Avril with her fans said she and her band were put in the same situation in South America by the security operating in the country on the behalf of the promoter, so nothing to do with Avril’s health issues back than And speaking about the dancers - as much as I am into keeping private life outside of the business one, Avril was clearly good friends and party buddies with the two dancers and backup vocalists, Lindsey and the other one, so for the two remaining it must have been bizarre to witness such approach from Avril. Perhaps they just didn’t click
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 22:07:42 GMT
A comment on that video by BLAZE: "Avril was picked on alot by people...in highschool..went to same School as her..and girls were mean to her.... she's been put down alot to...when you get to know her she's a great person...alot like Howie Mandel...just doesn't like people in her Space...that's all..she's just misunderstood.."
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Post by afonso16 on Jun 18, 2022 14:08:36 GMT
Disappointing to hear that but tbh I don't find it hard to believe. I don't think Avril was exactly a diva or anything but Avril has always been shy and kind of introverted, I doubt she treated the dancers poorly or anything, but it was probably just as she said, that she's not exactly the type to get all up in your business and force a friendship. And I think that's ok - you are all there to work, it's nice to form a bond with the people you are on the road with, but at the end of the day, it's a job and you're not there to make friends or anything. I am a shy person as well and it's just not in my nature to be the first to approach anyone or make friends, I generally keep to myself, and that's probably how Avril is too. Plus back then she was a bit of a brat and after 3 successful albums so young in her career, I think she kind of took herself a bit seriously and did think she was hot shit. I wish people would stop bringing up the distanced photos though. She was sick when those were taken, she has otherwise never taken fan photos requiring fans to stand so far away. It was only because she was sick and they probably didn't want any fans getting what she had. I will agree if the fans couldn't stand near her though they probably should have nixed the meet and greet or lowered the price. But nowadays Avril is a lot better at taking photos with fans and has even met fans after shows for free and signed stuff. The distanced photos while sick thing is not a fair comparison. I get that she was sick, but the whole thing about those photos is...The prices were literally insane (even for an actual standard meet & greet), if she wasn't going to give fans a decent photo then she shouldn't have done it in the first place... Not to mention that a lot of people complained about being mistreated by Avril's security. This is one of the many instances in her career that feel like a cashgrab... Also, if she knew she was probably sick why would she put the fans at risk as well? She looks bad regardless.
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Post by afonso16 on Jun 18, 2022 14:09:22 GMT
A comment on that video by BLAZE: "Avril was picked on alot by people...in highschool..went to same School as her..and girls were mean to her.... she's been put down alot to...when you get to know her she's a great person...alot like Howie Mandel...just doesn't like people in her Space...that's all..she's just misunderstood.." That could be a total rando, wouldn't read too much into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2022 14:11:37 GMT
Disappointing to hear that but tbh I don't find it hard to believe. I don't think Avril was exactly a diva or anything but Avril has always been shy and kind of introverted, I doubt she treated the dancers poorly or anything, but it was probably just as she said, that she's not exactly the type to get all up in your business and force a friendship. And I think that's ok - you are all there to work, it's nice to form a bond with the people you are on the road with, but at the end of the day, it's a job and you're not there to make friends or anything. I am a shy person as well and it's just not in my nature to be the first to approach anyone or make friends, I generally keep to myself, and that's probably how Avril is too. Plus back then she was a bit of a brat and after 3 successful albums so young in her career, I think she kind of took herself a bit seriously and did think she was hot shit. I wish people would stop bringing up the distanced photos though. She was sick when those were taken, she has otherwise never taken fan photos requiring fans to stand so far away. It was only because she was sick and they probably didn't want any fans getting what she had. I will agree if the fans couldn't stand near her though they probably should have nixed the meet and greet or lowered the price. But nowadays Avril is a lot better at taking photos with fans and has even met fans after shows for free and signed stuff. The distanced photos while sick thing is not a fair comparison. I get that she was sick, but the whole thing about those photos is...The prices were literally insane (even for an actual standard meet & greet), if she wasn't going to give fans a decent photo then she shouldn't have done it in the first place... Not to mention that a lot of people complained about being mistreated by Avril's security. This is one of the many instances in her career that feel like a cashgrab... Also, if she knew she was probably sick why would she put the fans at risk as well? She looks bad regardless. The security was the one responsible yes.Security wasn't allowing them to touch her.Meet and greets can be part of your contract too,so you cannot say no to it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 18, 2022 14:44:38 GMT
Yeah we don’t really know what goes into the meet and greet and who decides that it’s happening, in what manner, or how much it costs. I think there is a company that manages all that, I don’t think Avril really decides any of those things.
I have to say I always found it a bit weird that you have to pay to meet someone, even if the price is decent, it’s just a weird concept. Like it’s some sort of privilege or something. I appreciate the artists who do free meet and greets, they just do like a lottery kind of thing or have their team scout out fans in the audience so that it is still a limited number of people. That way no one is excluded from potentially meeting their idol because of finances, though I guess the drawback is that you have to be lucky enough to get picked. I think it’s nice that the last couple tours at least Avril has stopped outside of her bus on most dates and met with fans for free.
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Post by Yolandi on Jun 19, 2022 0:22:01 GMT
Yeah the meet and greets always gt brought up ugh. We do not know the reason. And yeah Avril clearly grew up, if she was a bit funny then she clearly isn't now. She comes across super likeable and friendly.
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Post by alloutofmycontrol on Jun 19, 2022 0:25:43 GMT
A comment on that video by BLAZE: "Avril was picked on alot by people...in highschool..went to same School as her..and girls were mean to her.... she's been put down alot to...when you get to know her she's a great person...alot like Howie Mandel...just doesn't like people in her Space...that's all..she's just misunderstood.." That could be a total rando, wouldn't read too much into it. Yeah exactly. I want to believe but anyone can just lie and say that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 0:26:18 GMT
Yeah the meet and greets always gt brought up ugh. We do not know the reason. And yeah Avril clearly grew up, if she was a bit funny then she clearly isn't now. She comes across super likeable and friendly. She's always been funny and friendly.She has a great sense of humor.I think you meant immature(which she was from 2002-2007) but since 2011,she's matured a lot.She was always friendly,in my opinion but sadly,whatever goes viral is not in our control.The same meet and greets had pictures where she was hugging people if asked for a hug.The security gaurds messed it up most likely but Avril Lavigne got the same blame because she's a big name. Same thing happened with Linkin Park as well but Chester Bennington convinced the security guards not to intervene and so they didn't so yeah Linkin Park avoided the controversy.This was a long time ago.
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Post by Yolandi on Jun 19, 2022 0:35:23 GMT
Yeah the meet and greets always gt brought up ugh. We do not know the reason. And yeah Avril clearly grew up, if she was a bit funny then she clearly isn't now. She comes across super likeable and friendly. She's always been funny and friendly.She has a great sense of humor.I think you meant immature(which she was from 2002-2007) but since 2011,she's matured a lot.She was always friendly,in my opinion but sadly,whatever goes viral is not in our control.The same meet and greets had pictures where she was hugging people if asked for a hug.The security gaurds messed it up most likely but Avril Lavigne got the same blame because she's a big name. Same thing happened with Linkin Park as well but Chester Bennington convinced the security guards not to intervene and so they didn't so yeah Linkin Park avoided the controversy.This was a long time ago. I mean like just like according to the dancer etc. And yeah, so exactly, there's reasons for why those meet and greets happened how they did.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2022 0:39:07 GMT
She's always been funny and friendly.She has a great sense of humor.I think you meant immature(which she was from 2002-2007) but since 2011,she's matured a lot.She was always friendly,in my opinion but sadly,whatever goes viral is not in our control.The same meet and greets had pictures where she was hugging people if asked for a hug.The security gaurds messed it up most likely but Avril Lavigne got the same blame because she's a big name. Same thing happened with Linkin Park as well but Chester Bennington convinced the security guards not to intervene and so they didn't so yeah Linkin Park avoided the controversy.This was a long time ago. I mean like just like according to the dancer etc. And yeah, so exactly, there's reasons for why those meet and greets happened how they did. When millions of people know you globally,then they have millions of different opinions on you.Avril isn't a bad person.Some people like you and some don't and that's human nature.She even said Avril is an introvert in the video(she really is).And lots of celebrities have had bad meet and greets.Rihanna,Ariana Grande,Demi Lovato and Britney Spears,who did not talk,touch and stood away from fans in a $2,700 meet and greet in 2018.
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Post by AbbeyFan on Jun 24, 2022 0:42:47 GMT
Tbh if I was 2008 Avril Lavigne at the peak of paparazzi harassing Lindsay and Britney, people leaking stories about celebs left and right AND having just got married young/ trying something new with my image, I would keep to myself around strangers too 😆 Also the part about being a the only blonde on stage sounds pretty standard aesthetic wise. As it was her first time having dancers she probably wanted it to be perfect and not confusing lol
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